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»www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/B···utton=Go
If it gets past the House Public Utilities committee; then it goes to the House Finance committee;
»www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/B···llID=S87
and then the Senate Judiciary Committee;
And then must be passed by House & Senate; and signed by governor.
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 | | | Re: Today is the Committee vote only - not a floor vote Any Bill like this, needs to be killed in the starting stages. Otherwise the 'majority' of people forget and then the bill may get buried in another bill to make sure it passes(Corruption at it's finest).
Lobbying needs to be made illegal. | |
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| | | | Re: Today is the Committee vote only - not a floor vote said by kilcoruptbi :Lobbying needs to be made illegal.
Right there is where I fundamentally disagree with you. The actions of few should be basis for the repeal of a basic constitutional right (to petition one's government)? I cannot agree with that under any circumstances. I may not agree with their actions, but why should that outlaw me having the ability to lobby my government for grievances?
Please read up on what lobbying is and the process behind it before calling for a blanket banning of it. You will find that there are many people who lobby for things that HELP you on a daily basis. What you are asking is quite literally cutting off the nose to spite the face. | |
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| | | | | Re: Today is the Committee vote only - not a floor vote You should be able to lobby your government, but no one and no business should be able to bride them.
So if you want to take your grievances to your representation you can and should do that, but NEVER should you be able to give them a gift of any form to "encourage them to see things your way".
Lobbying today is without question a bribe when something is given and extortion when something is taken away (or threatened). | |
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| said by PapaMidnight: Please read up on what lobbying is and the process behind it before calling for a blanket banning of it.
I agree everyone should be allowed to lobby the government for whatever they want.
Where this becomes dangerous is when you also have politicians needing to raise millions of dollars for their campaigns.
If a citizen has a problem with a particular bill or AT&T that gave you thousands of dollars in campaign contribution who do you think the elected official will give more credence?
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| | | Yep! and if NC was smart- they would have already voted for this and stop letting Cities and mayors waste public tax money. They should be funding the police departments and other city emergency services instead of trying to be an ISP. | |
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| | | | Re: Today is the Committee vote only - not a floor vote In your opinion, and since you don't live there, your opinion on the matter means nothing. | |
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I suppose you think building town playgrounds, pools, parks and such are a waste too? This is in the same category. It's for the town/city people's enjoyment.
The bottom line is, it's about using the PEOPLE's tax money the way PEOPLE want, not the way big business wants. If the people feel this is a worth while endeavor for their town/city, then so be it, do it. | |
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| | | | | Re: Today is the Committee vote only - not a floor vote Hey, I think you're confused and talking about "The People's" republic of china?
I'm pretty sure "We the People" don't have the right to tell our neighbor they have to subsidize a gold plated road system. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: as a NC native said by King P:I'm absolutely disgusted with how the government has turned out in my home state. The whole lot of them are crooked and need to be ousted.
Now that the republicans control everything in TN just wait until you see what happens here. Remember the new Governor is a BILLIONAIRE. | |
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Maybe he can bring some of that success to your state too huh? | |
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| Government has no business being in business. I don't want my tax money wasted on things government has no business doing.
Let us look fondly back on broadband over power lines.
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Manassas, Va. -- Manassas residents who rely on the city's broadband-over-power line Internet service will have to find a new provider after Manassas City Council members voted unanimously Monday to end the city's role as a telecommunications provider.
»www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···796.html
BTW Utah's Utopia is anything but for hard working taxpayers. Whey do I have to pay to bring 100/100 porn the the outhouses
of Utah? That tax dollar money put just sucked $16.229 million of MY tax dollars. WTF I'm getting pissed; I'm on twisted pair and Utah's outhouses are getting fiber on my dime. | |
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Mississauga, ON | Re: Government has no business being in business. wow, you already paid your country $16 million in taxes by yourself already?
how much do you make a year? Man, i thought taxes in canada were high. | |
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038xx | Re: Government has no business being in business. said by Gami00:wow, you already paid your country $16 million in taxes by yourself already? No, he corrected himself in the last line. It *feels* like 16mil but his contribution was a dime. Happens to the best of us. /snark | |
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join:2005-03-19 | how about you demand that you get the fiber instead of bitching that so and so got it instead. if you want it bad enough then TAKE IT | |
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| said by batterup:I don't want my tax money wasted on things government has no business doing.
Let us look fondly back on broadband over power lines.
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Manassas, Va. -- Manassas residents who rely on the city's broadband-over-power line Internet service will have to find a new provider after Manassas City Council members voted unanimously Monday to end the city's role as a telecommunications provider.
» www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···796.htmlBTW Utah's Utopia is anything but for hard working taxpayers. Whey do I have to pay to bring 100/100 porn the the outhouses of Utah? That tax dollar money put just sucked $16.229 million of MY tax dollars. WTF I'm getting pissed; I'm on twisted pair and Utah's outhouses are getting fiber on my dime. Then step up to voice your opposition to any proposals for Muni development in your community and let the chips fall where they may. There is no reason whatsoever to make a law restricting what a municipality can do on this front at the behest of a majority of the voters in said community.
And if the community votes to go ahead, you can pull up stakes and move to another area where there is no municipal effort underway or proposed as many like to tell those of us that object to being discriminated against as rural citizens.
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| | | | Re: Government has no business being in business. Sure there is.
Who has to bail out a City when they F up and spend to much money then can't make the payroll? It's not the city residents.
There's a city in the Detroit area that spent millions of city dollars to try and help get a new Movie studio made in thier city.
Guess what they just voted to do last night because they now have NO MONEY?
Yeah, those people in that city now feel safe without Firemen or Policemen I'd bet.
You DO need state laws that stop crazy people that happen to win an election from doing completely stupid things with the PUBLIC's money. | |
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| Re: Government has no business being in business. said by annonymiss :Sure there is.
Who has to bail out a City when they F up and spend to much money then can't make the payroll? It's not the city residents.
There's a city in the Detroit area that spent millions of city dollars to try and help get a new Movie studio made in thier city.
Guess what they just voted to do last night because they now have NO MONEY?
Yeah, those people in that city now feel safe without Firemen or Policemen I'd bet.
You DO need state laws that stop crazy people that happen to win an election from doing completely stupid things with the PUBLIC's money.
I would say it is crazier to get in bed with an incumbent to give away the store so there is no competition which keeps the costs artificially elevated. And now that you bring up Detroit et al, their issues are centered around the economic collapse and not because they were in the process of opening up new business potential. IOWs, they had too many eggs in one basket and didn't have time to expand into other areas of commerce.
Pick a better straw man next time...
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Rochester, NY | said by batterup:I don't want my tax money wasted on things government has no business doing.
Let us look fondly back on broadband over power lines.
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Manassas, Va. -- Manassas residents who rely on the city's broadband-over-power line Internet service will have to find a new provider after Manassas City Council members voted unanimously Monday to end the city's role as a telecommunications provider.
» www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co···796.htmlBTW Utah's Utopia is anything but for hard working taxpayers. Whey do I have to pay to bring 100/100 porn the the outhouses of Utah? That tax dollar money put just sucked $16.229 million of MY tax dollars. WTF I'm getting pissed; I'm on twisted pair and Utah's outhouses are getting fiber on my dime. 1. Broadband over power lines was a disaster from the get-go, no doubt about it. But the story you quote is almost a year old, and there are very few municipal BPL providers.
2. Most of today's community broadband projects are financed by private bonds using a unique type of financing that risks ZERO taxpayer dollars. The bonds are sold with the understanding if the project fails, the bondholders take the fall, not taxpayers.
3. Several of these projects commit to constructing a network on which ALL players can access the service. In Ontario County, NY Verizon and Time Warner both use their fiber network to improve service to business and residential customers.
4. UTOPIA is hardly about bringing in porn. It delivers advanced fiber optic broadband to business and residential customers and has attracted major business providers like PAETEC to its network, which will improve offerings to business clients. High tech business brings high tech jobs.
It sounds more like you have broadband envy because you are stuck with Qwest's copper. Qwest, BTW, helps fund the organizations that oppose UTOPIA's existence. They'd like everyone in the state to endure the same twisted pair broadband experience you've got. Without competition from providers like UTOPIA, that is all you'll be stuck with.
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| Re: Government has no business being in business. said by jslik:Yea, and a 10 second search shows that Netcong got $150,000 from the feds for a sidewalk project...why should I pay MY tax dollars for YOUR sidewalks, especially with the big cracks in MY sidewalk?
Did you see the swell clock we got to go along with the sidewalks?
Sidewalks and streets are government's responsibility; NJ Transit has a RR station downtown and that was part of a state highway and RR improvement project.
said by FBGuy:how about you demand that you get the fiber instead of bitching that so and so got it instead. if you want it bad enough then TAKE IT
Verizon NJ is paying for broadband to the outhouses and has no money to finish what they started four years ago for my CO.
Verizon did give us 10/15 DSL though.
I took this four years ago an thought 6 months to a year and it would be lit.
said by coldmoon: Then step up to voice your opposition to any proposals for Muni development in your community and let the chips fall where they may. There is no way any NJ town would attempt to do that TPC and CATV pay to do it. Verizon NJ does not get one penny of the USF pork.
said by BF69:You live in NJ not NC so it's really none of your concern. If some town CHOOSES to build fiber it's none of your busines.
It is my business when they use my money to compete with private business. If Verizon could tax widows and orphans to fund FiOS I would have it.
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Plagued by continuing losses and facing an uncertain future, the Utopia fiber-optic system is out to reinvent itself.
Operators of the system want Utopia’s 11 member cities to coalesce and launch an entity known as the Utah Infrastructure Agency, which would raise up to $60 million to complete the development of its network.
said by BF69:No it's not. His contributon is PENNIES if that. Most people that bitch about "their taxes" pay very little if any. FACT
Exccccuuuuuusssss me; I live in NJ I know taxes.
said by Dampier:2. Most of today's community broadband projects are financed by private bonds using a unique type of financing that risks ZERO taxpayer dollars. The bonds are sold with the understanding if the project fails, the bondholders take the fall, not taxpayers Really? Let us look at the facts.
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In 2009 UTOPIA, Utah’s largest municipal telecom system, will begin to draw on sales taxes pledged by UTOPIA’s member cities, despite vehement and repeated statements by UTOPIA representatives that the sales tax pledges would never be called. Now taxpayers in cities that joined UTOPIA will face property tax hikes to pay for the services those sales taxes were supposed to support.
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| Re: Government has no business being in business. There is no way any NJ town would attempt to do that TPC and CATV pay to do it. Verizon NJ does not get one penny of the USF pork.
JMHO
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| Re: Government has no business being in business. said by coldmoon:
Stop relying on the Telcos to fix the problems. There are too many incentives for them to just tell everyone to go pound salt and then raise their rates again.
Well let me say this about that; I had 3G @ $50 for 5 Gig a month with $257 a gig overage charge. I switched to 4G for the same $50 for 5 gig with $10 a gig overage charge.
My DSL was 1.5/3.5 for $30 a month now I have 10/15 for $50 a month. I'm getting faster for less; go figure. BTW Verizon PAYS taxes they do no consume them. | |
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| Re: Government has no business being in business. said by batterup:said by coldmoon:
Stop relying on the Telcos to fix the problems. There are too many incentives for them to just tell everyone to go pound salt and then raise their rates again.
Well let me say this about that; I had 3G @ $50 for 5 Gig a month with $257 a gig overage charge. I switched to 4G for the same $50 for 5 gig with $10 a gig overage charge. My DSL was 1.5/3.5 for $30 a month now I have 10/15 for $50 a month. I'm getting faster for less; go figure. BTW Verizon PAYS taxes they do no consume them. And this is relevant because...?
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join:2006-03-17 | said by batterup:Sidewalks and streets are government's responsibility; NJ Transit has a RR station downtown and that was part of a state highway and RR improvement project.
Sidewalks are the FEDERAL government's responsibility, but helping to provide decent broadband is not?
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"UTOPIA bonds for construction costs using sales tax pledges as collateral to secure the bond. Revenues to cover the bonds are then set aside by pledging cities in an interest-bearing account and will only be used should subscriber revenues fail to cover the debt service. Because UTOPIA cities all bond at the same time and use their collective bond ratings and taxing authority, financing is generally seen as low-risk and secures a low interest rate."
Municipal bonds are back by future tax revenue. The taxpayer is on the hook when UTOPIA fails. | |
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join:2006-03-17 | said by batterup: BTW Utah's Utopia is anything but for hard working taxpayers. Whey do I have to pay to bring 100/100 porn the the outhouses
of Utah? That tax dollar money put just sucked $16.229 million of MY tax dollars. WTF I'm getting pissed; I'm on twisted pair and Utah's outhouses are getting fiber on my dime.
Yea, and a 10 second search shows that Netcong got $150,000 from the feds for a sidewalk project...why should I pay MY tax dollars for YOUR sidewalks, especially with the big cracks in MY sidewalk?
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| Re: Government has no business being in business. said by jslik:said by batterup: BTW Utah's Utopia is anything but for hard working taxpayers. Whey do I have to pay to bring 100/100 porn the the outhouses
of Utah? That tax dollar money put just sucked $16.229 million of MY tax dollars. WTF I'm getting pissed; I'm on twisted pair and Utah's outhouses are getting fiber on my dime.
Yea, and a 10 second search shows that Netcong got $150,000 from the feds for a sidewalk project...why should I pay MY tax dollars for YOUR sidewalks, especially with the big cracks in MY sidewalk? You didn't. They used their tax dollars, not yours. Every tax dollar spent isn't "my taxes" or yours. These people pay taxes and have been fortunate enough to benefit from it.
I never understood those who think that any tax dollars spent in another state means money out of their pocket... | |
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| Re: Government has no business being in business. said by jslik:Whoops, forgot my [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] tags...
Sorry!
I've heard it so many times that it's hard to tell. I guess I'm just too used to the "What have you done for me lately?" mentality that as infected so many in the world today. | |
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Camden, TN | said by batterup:I don't want my tax money wasted on things government has no business doing. You live in NJ not NC so it's really none of your concern. If some town CHOOSES to build fiber it's none of your busines. | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Government has no business being in business. said by BF69:said by batterup:I don't want my tax money wasted on things government has no business doing. You live in NJ not NC so it's really none of your concern. If some town CHOOSES to build fiber it's none of your busines. It is his business if any Federal dollars go towards making it happen. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Government has no business being in business. said by Romney2012:said by BF69:said by batterup:I don't want my tax money wasted on things government has no business doing. You live in NJ not NC so it's really none of your concern. If some town CHOOSES to build fiber it's none of your busines. It is his business if any Federal dollars go towards making it happen. No it's not. His contributon is PENNIES if that. Most people that bitch about "their taxes" pay very little if any. FACT | |
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kudos:4 | Re: Government has no business being in business. said by BF69:Most people that bitch about "their taxes" pay very little if any. FACT
FACT?? Any proof of your claim? Cite a study to back that up? | |
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| said by Romney2012:said by BF69:said by batterup:I don't want my tax money wasted on things government has no business doing. You live in NJ not NC so it's really none of your concern. If some town CHOOSES to build fiber it's none of your busines. It is his business if any Federal dollars go towards making it happen. Then he needs to take his complaints to those that represent him and find out why he didn't get his piece of the pie. Paying taxes doesn't give anyone the right to dictate where the money is spent. I have no idea where people got the idea that that is how it works since it's never been the case.
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| Re: Government has no business being in business. said by fatness:
Here's where your dimes are going --- to make up for taxes Verizon doesn't pay:
A tax brake for a business? That doesn't happen often I ass/u/me.
Not paying some tax is not like being tax payed supported.
These live free small government fascists make me want to puke when they shamelessly slop at the public trough. | |
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Rochester, NY | A Week's Reprieve We won a one week-reprieve before the bill comes up for a vote in the committee meeting -next Wednesday-. Our sources tell us the reason for the delay was "unwanted attention" -- namely, the phone calls and e-mails arriving from residents who don't want this corporate protection bill to become law.
Use the week wisely by contacting every member you can, perhaps by phone -and- email, and let them know this bill will effectively destroy community broadband in North Carolina. For western parts of the state, these projects may be the only way to bring broadband to rural areas bypassed by AT&T and CenturyLink. Cable companies, especially Time Warner, don't want to have to exclude cities like Wilson from their annual relentless rate hikes.
These bills never deliver ANY improvement in broadband service, they just stop anyone else from delivering the broadband experience big phone and cable companies won't.
Rep. Avila, comes straight out of the corporate funded John Locke Foundation, which worships at the altar of AT&T, Time Warner, and other big providers.
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Charlotte, NC | No competition If you have muni fiber no private company can compete. Make it a level playing field and I do have a problem with the city backing the bonds to a point but the muni fiber should be independent from the company. They pay taxes and use separate facilities (no sharing the town hall for offices) and be treated just like a private company getting permits. The systems should have to be county wide like the telco companies have to provide POTS to everyone.
In Wilson if the venture fails all town citizens will pay for the bonds. If the town can under cut the price it will become a monopoly and then they can charge what they wish and maintain the service as they see fit. What is to keep the city from charging more to help pay other city services. They are using the city power and their rates are higher then the private power company outside the town. So while it has good points there can be pot holes in the future.
AT&T does not serve Wilson (TWC and CenturyLink) I think AT&T serves Salisbury. They also provide Uverse so the government is under cutting a service. CenturyLink serves small cities and rural areas so they hurt for money. TWC is in a better position and why they don't upgrade will hurt them.
My question is if the service is so profitable and a city can do it then why can another private company not do it if the incumbents do not care too take it on. | |
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River Falls, WI | munifiber Monticello, mn fibernet. They pay 35 dollars a month for 20/20. 30/30 line for 53 dollars a month. I don't understand what the nay sayers justification is to going against munifiber. | |
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| Re: munifiber said by pinjas:Monticello, mn fibernet. They pay 35 dollars a month for 20/20. 30/30 line for 53 dollars a month. I don't understand what the nay sayers justification is to going against munifiber.
They don't have access to it so it has to be wrong. It's all about ME ME ME! | |
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| said by pinjas:Monticello, mn fibernet. They pay 35 dollars a month for 20/20. 30/30 line for 53 dollars a month. I don't understand what the nay sayers justification is to going against munifiber.
Monticello muni fiber is and will remain vapor fiber.
They have a total of nine employees and so far have run an 11 mile fiber loop; no information of where it is available.
I looked up the address for the town hall on the national broadband map and it shows two land line providers one the ILEC and the cable company. Where is my tax supported porn?
505 walnut street 55362
Telephone and Data Systems, Inc 50-100 fiber
Charter Communications 10-25 Cable
If you like competition you will love this; unless you bought the bonds to fund the project.
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Mayor's in California paying themselves $800,000 a year.
Teachers, Firemen, garbage collectors and police workers that rake in millions of dollars after working to the ripe old age of 45 to 55 then retire making more they they did while the worked.
A postal system that loses money by under-pricing package services to try and stay competative with private parcel companies.
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| | | Re: Um, yeah Competition from munis is needed in our country because our private providers are garbage. There's only 1 telecom and 1 cable company per area and they act like a monopoly. We need either competition from munis or antitrust against our ISPs.
South Korea's ISPs are starting to roll out 1 Gbps connections. I live in LA (the second largest metropolitan area in the US) and AT&T hasn't rolled out anything faster than 1.5 Mbps in my area yet. Speeds in the US lag behind such economic powerhouses such as Romania and Latvia. Meanwhile, I pay $30 a month for 1.5 Mbps connection and am stuck at 600 ish Kbps this weekend because AT&T is unreliable. | |
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| | batterupI Can Not Tell A Lie.Premium
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| Re: Um, yeah said by Narrowband : I live in LA (the second largest metropolitan area in the US)
Speeds in the US lag behind such economic powerhouses such as Romania and Latvia.
East Rutherford NJ has two NFL teams and LA has none maybe there should be an anti trust suit. I think East Rutherford could kick LA's butt.
New Jersey can kick Latvia's butt if we wanted to but only 39% of the people that can get FiOS do. | |
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