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'Northpoint Experiment' Ends
AT&T's write-off: the final chapter for failed provider
(old news - 02:58PM Thursday Jan 09 2003)
tags: dsl · business
In May of 2001, AT&T spent $135 million to buy the assets of failed DSL provider Northpoint Communications, and spent millions more upgrading the network. Shortly afterwards, AT&T found themselves wishing they'd read the fine print of an agreement between themselves, Cox, and Comcast cable, which prevented them from offering broadband in territories served by those two companies. What originated as an attempt to provide DSL service that could compete with the incumbent bells, resulted in little more than a sloppy experimental waste.

When AT&T this week announced that they would be eliminating 3500 (primarily managerial) positions, analysts weren't surprised; the long distance price wars have resulted in more than their fair share of digital bloodshed. AT&T has laid off 10,000 employees in the past two years.

What surprised many was the announcement that the company would be taking a $240 million charge against fourth-quarter earnings; the charge standing as a public acknowledgement that the company had made a mistake with its Northpoint investment. All the same, investors weren't phased. Shares of AT&T were almost unchanged on the day of the announcement, closing at $27.48, down 18 cents.

AT&T witnessed early on that operating a DSL network wouldn't be easy, as Northpoint customers unleashed a stream of acidic e-mails at the company when they began experiencing outages shortly after the asset acquisition in 2001. The company was now the proud owner of nationwide collocation facilities, two leased buildings in Emeryville, Calif, and tons of equipment and software....and quickly realized they wanted no part of any of it.

So instead of trying to break into the DSL business on their own, the company announced this week they'd be expanding an existing agreement with Covad, offering DSL service across Covad's nationwide network, which covers 96 of the top metropolitan areas. AT&T will continue to offer services provisioned over their own facilities in limited areas of New York, Texas and California.

A $135 million investment, millions in upgrades, months of paying leases for shelf-space that was never even used.....all that remains is dusty abandoned hardware sitting on central office shelves, the final will and testament to the company that was once Northpoint Communications.

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lscott5

join:2001-01-04
West Palm Beach, FL

Oh well....

As one of the many Northpoint users that were left high and dry I guess that pretty much ends any chance I have of getting my DSL reconnected.

It's a shame. I have the line, it was running and everything but BellSouth still says that my number/line can not support DSL.

Go Figure!

BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
Premium
join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
clubs:

Re: Oh well....

Thing is, I brought this up back when Northpoint was in Chap7 and AT&T showed interest.
I knew then that this would end up chapping their backsides once somebody came to the realization that they would not be able to legally break into the DSL game via this method.
I guess nobody else was listening.
Oh well...it wasn't my $135 mil.
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The rich get richer, the poorer get the picture, the bombs never hit you when yer down so low...some got pollution, others evolution, there must be some solution but I just don't know....

AlterEgo

join:2001-01-09
Bayside, NY
As a Northpoint shareholder (they're still in my account... a glaring $0.00 that keeps reminding me of the dreadful way in which it met its demise), I share your disappointment. "Left high and dry": exactly how I feel.

pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
Premium
join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
·Comcast

Re: Oh well....

said by AlterEgo See Profile:
a glaring $0.00 that keeps reminding me of the dreadful way in which it met its demise
At least their stock price can't get any worse

If AT&T is looking for a CEO, I will be more than happy to take the job. What kind of idiot signs a contract without reading the fine print? Sounds like the fools who run Sendo!
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Go Chargers7
Fa Shizzle Ma Nizzle
Premium
join:2002-09-24
Huntington Beach, CA

Re: Oh well....

The same idiots that sell off the one division that made them any money to Comcast.
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Made in America; tested in Japan.

redstepchild
Premium
join:2002-01-04
Birmingham, AL

Saved!

Um I am happy the sold us off to Comcast.. Now we won't sink w/ the Titanic!
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RedStepChild@dslr.net

hawgwild

join:2000-06-16
Scottsdale, AZ

As another Northpoint refugee I still have mixed feeling about the whole thing. At first my DSL line was great, at 208/208 it was a major upgrade to a dial up connection even though it took over a month to get US West to actually connect the copper. But when the ISP that sold me the Northpoint line went belly up and the accounts were bought and then sold right away by Megapath, that was the beginning of the end. The company that bought my account, Telocity (herein known as Teloshitty) was the worst ISP, and not by a little, I've ever dealt with. From their proprietary "frankenstein" modem, to their unscrupulous business practices, to the outright lies they told during the Northpoint liquidation, puts them on my Top 10 Worst companies to deal with. I'd go back to dial up before I'd deal with them again.
As a matter of fact I did go back to dial up, for almost 6 months until Cox wired my neighborhood for cable internet. Now instead of a 208/208 DSL connection for $50 a month, I have a 3000/256 (and I usually surpass that by a bit) cable connection that's rock solid. I wouldn't go back to DSL unless it were free.

The people at AT&T who made that decision deserve to lose their jobs, it was monumentally stupid. But I guess they're big enough to absorb a loss like that and survive. I guess it's probably just chump change to AT&T.

AlterEgo

join:2001-01-09
Bayside, NY

Re: Oh well....

What made Northpoint's demise so tragic-- besides the fact that I owned share in the company-- was the fact that, as I understood it, Northpoint provided a great service to its subscribers.

AkumalDave
Life's A Beach
Premium,MVM
join:2001-04-20
Minneapolis, MN

If AT&T's intent was truly to move into the DSL market, WHY did they summarily disconnect 110,000 (presumably) paying Northpoint customers? Even at rates that might not have been realistic (my 784k/784k line cost $39.95 per month), they would have had some cash flow to help their "expansion plan".

I am still skeptical that that was the reason AT&T purchased the Northpoint assets. IMHO, more probable scenarios are that they wanted to move into local phone service (before their cable network was capable) or they wanted to kill off the competition and drive more customers to ATTBI (not that they had a presence in all the Northpoint markets yet - it took them 1 1/2 more years to get cable internet to my neighborhood).

Don't look to me for any sympathy, AT&T. You're the jerks who took over my cable company and immediately raised rates - discontinuing my grandfathered-in programming package that had survived two previous ownership changes. The same jerks who cut the cord on the Northpoint network when, I believe, the option to keep it alive existed. And, a division of the same jerks who assured me my 7/7 phone & internet dialup plan would NOT change, contrary to the press releases....then, two months later, cancelled the plan and offered me a more expensive one in its place. I chuckle every time I receive one of your "We hate to lose a customer..." and "We want you back..." letters. Sometimes, bad things happen to good companies. This is NOT the case this time around...

Dave

BrianDamage
We Are The Hounds From Hell
Premium
join:2001-08-14
Rowlett, TX
clubs:

Re: Still skeptical

If AT&T's intent was truly to move into the DSL market, WHY did they summarily disconnect 110,000 (presumably) paying Northpoint customers?
Because AT&T bought Northpoint's assets, not the subscriber base. They were prohibited from servicing the customer base already in place.
Their plan was to buy the network, let it go dark, and then turn it back up using their own circuits.
I know, because I had talks with some of their managers about it after the acquisition, and again mentioned the cable agreement as being an impediment to a DSL deployment, which they denied at the time.
Don't look to me for any sympathy, AT&T...
I think that if anything they deserve sympathy for not having the foresight to see that they would never be able to make a go of this, at least until after so much time had passed that the entire DSL network they purchased had become hopefully obsolete.
They were pretty damn stupid in what they did, and now they are writing it off, because that's all they can do.
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The rich get richer, the poorer get the picture, the bombs never hit you when yer down so low...some got pollution, others evolution, there must be some solution but I just don't know....

DrTCP
Yours truly
Premium,ExMod 1999-04
join:1999-11-09
Round Rock, TX

Now they are free to offer DSL (if they wish)

Now that Excite@Home is long gone and all cable providers are on their on and AT&T has sold cable to Comcast, I see no reason why they cannot take advantage of Northpoint assets they acquired pennies on the dollar. That is if they wish to do so.

They might have lost money some small money (telco speaking) on this transation but they gained shelf and co-location space on these CO which is much more valuable to the company than the equipment. They will take advantage of this when the market

The more serious issue for AT&T is the reversal of FCC rules that can wipe the CLEC status and access to last mine effectively. Covad is also a loser if that is allowed to happen. Perhaps SBC can acquire Covad since they already own portion of the company anyhow.
dmh748

join:2002-03-07
Boston, MA

Article wrong, Covad in all states except NY,TX,CA

The NY times article and the blurb has it exactly wrong.

*Except* for limited areas in NY, TX, and CA, where ATT is providing its own DSL service, all of the remaining areas are covered by Covad for ATT.

See this correct article:

»telephonyonline.com/ar/telecom_c···ndex.htm

Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02

Re: Article wrong, Covad in all states except NY,TX,CA

Yeah I thought that seemed wrong.

Corrected. Thank you.
dmh748

join:2002-03-07
Boston, MA

Another article with more info

»www.tinyurl.com/49cy

ATT, Covad Expand DSL Agreement
Jan 07, 2003
In what is rapidly becoming a very friendly arrangement indeed, broadband provider Covad [OTC: COVD] and AT&T [NYSE: T] announced a wider scope for their ADSL partnership. Covad presently provisions ADSL service for customers of AT&T's Worldnet Internet service and for AT&T business customers. Under the new agreement, Covad will also provide ADSL service under the AT&T brand to residential customers of the carrier's local voice service. AT&T also gains warrants to acquire 3 million shares of Covad stock, or 1.3 percent of outstanding shares.

While an obvious advantage for Covad as it works to build its wholesale business, the deal also provides powerful advantages for AT&T. The bundled service will use a line splitting arrangement and allows AT&T to get wholesale ADSL access via Covad rather than working out its own deals with ILECs-- a negotiating process that would doubtless be less friendly than the cozy arrangement that is evolving with Covad (Santa Clara, Calif.). AT&T already offers its own facilities-based ADSL service in parts of California, New York and Texas. (Those offerings are unaffected by the deal). However rather than expanding its own footprint, AT&T through the Covad deal saves deployment expenses and more closely matches costs to its own timeline for scaling up service.

For more about this and other broadband industry-related news, read the latest edition of Communications Today's sister publication, Broadband Business Report. For subscription details, visit the "newsstand" at »www.TelecomWeb.com.
ross

join:2000-08-16
·Digizip

Note to the FCC:

Hey Mr. Powell, why isn't this AT&T non-compete agreement a violation of FCC regulations? Why was Verizon allowed to get away with the financial shenanigan it perpetrated on Northpoint? Why is a cable provider allowed to buy up and bury a very good DSL network?

If the new view of the industry, and the FCC, is competing super monopolies represented by recombined Telco+Wireless vs. mega-Cable/entertainment conglomerates vs. Direct Broadcast Satellite broadband then why doesn't the non-compete agreement violate FCC rules? After all, AT&T, Cox and Comcast are predominantly cable providers and Northpoint's network was strictly DSL.

Why have a federal regulating body charged with protecting consumers that continually kow-tows to corporate interests? Eh, Mr. Powell? If you aren't going to do anything but rubber-stamp industry proposals, like most state P.U.C.'s, then I propose we save the taxpayers a lot of money and just abolish the FCC altogether. That way, when the various providers of so-called high technology internet and HDTV services and the dick-headed purveyors of D.M.C.A. protected content decide to put it to consumers, we won't have to wait six months to find out we're going to get screwed, we will be notified directly by the provider without the useless, redundant middleman.
kenyg

join:2001-02-09
Hatboro, PA

dusty NP equipment

- so how much for the former NP network??

Boy do I miss my 784/784 sdsl with 4 static IPs.



Ken
Lasker

join:2000-05-10
Danville, CA

Re: dusty NP equipment

784/784 sdsl with northpoint rocked, worked out to 15,000 feet, used frame relay encapsulation and go 744/744 real world speed (94.89% rated)

Voyager2K2

join:2001-10-04
Wayne, PA
·Verizon FIOS

Re: dusty NP equipment

said by Lasker See Profile:
784/784 sdsl with northpoint rocked, worked out to 15,000 feet, used frame relay encapsulation and go 744/744 real world speed (94.89% rated)
How much did they charge for that? Fifty or sixty bucks/mo?

Why do you think NPT went out of business anyway?
Pavel303

join:2001-03-22
Brooklyn, NY

Re: dusty NP equipment

They charged 39.95 for 768/768
MGP

join:2001-01-01
Olathe, KS

Ummm... 768K/768K uses no more bandwidth than a 1500/128K connection.

So why would $40/mo. be any worse financially than than the same price for a typical cable or ADSL connection?

I had the 768K Northpoint SDSL serviec for several months before they bit the dust and it was great. I now have Covad SDSL through Megapath, but interestingly they can *only* give me 384K/384K service to the same point of entry. At twice the price too! At least it's reliable service...

beerbum
Premium
join:2000-05-06
Reading, PA
clubs:

so...

has AT&T done anything else besides ruin not one, but two national broadband providers?

first they bankrupt @home, then they buy Northpoint only to flush it down the toilet.

I bet all the surviving ATTBIS employees can breathe a sigh of relief knowing their new employer will not end up trashing their broadband service as AT&T did with their two tries at it.

Thran

join:2002-01-05
Hibbing, MN

Ouch

OUch that has gotta hurt. And guese who gets to pay for AT&T's screw up? not the management the peons and the cattle. The techs and the customers
mcaslan

join:2000-06-17
Baltimore, MD

Nice story...the writers did a good job...

Northpoint shut down the network and wanted to keep the opportunity for a competitor to build out a VOIP and data network on the cheap.

It sounds so rational this story that Wall Street analysts should be able to rationalize this easily and the attempt to shore up valuation and investment is a good attempt.

So, AT&T is allowed to run a service in cooperation with Covad, hmmm but had to dismantle their Northpoint network because of legal agreements yep sounds good.

sapo
I eat meat
Premium
join:2002-09-16
Sacramento, CA

Don't work for them

another reason you shouldn't work for A&TT
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Expect him...
air2air
Premium
join:2002-09-19
Dallas, TX

Happens when you over educate the massses

Less Presidents, VPs, Regional VPs, Regional Managers, Managers, Supervisors, and more muscle to rebuild the infastructure,and a new lawfirm that can read a contract, and understand it. That should start an AT&T turn around.

elias
Premium,VIP
join:2000-07-24
Miami, FL
clubs:

I Remember the Days...

NorthPoint rocked! Too bad Liz Fetter ran it into the ground.

It's a shame that ATT couldn't do anything with the nationwide network.

I doubt Covad would want to buy it, because NP was CopperMountain-based, while Covad is Nokia-based.

Perhaps WorldCom would buy it, or some other company could take that over.

-- Elias
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