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In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
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| Re: Finally said by GOLFnSUN  :said by ender7074 :Guess I may get fewer spam ads for "enhancement" now. Throw him in jail for 10 yrs. Civil judgments against him did nothing. Maybe jail can stop him. Psh. Knowing our system, he'll get a "don't touch a computer for 5 years, pay a $1 million dollar fine, and promise you'll behave in the future" sentence.
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| Re: Finally said by Rob :Knowing our system, he'll get a "don't touch a computer for 5 years, pay a $1 million dollar fine, and promise you'll behave in the future" sentence. Basing that theory on Mitnick, I see. Mitnick's only crime was breaking into unsecured servers and humiliating the "computer security" employees of deep pocketed corporations. He actually did the Internet a favor by exposing primary weaknesses, but I would never put Mitnick in the same category as a spammer or ascribe the same sentence to them. They are in an entire class by themselves and completely useless to anyone. Spammers are the true nuisances who should be punished excessively, not people like Mitnick.
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| Re: Finally said by major marco :said by Rob :Knowing our system, he'll get a "don't touch a computer for 5 years, pay a $1 million dollar fine, and promise you'll behave in the future" sentence. Basing that theory on Mitnick, I see. Mitnick's only crime was breaking into unsecured servers and humiliating the "computer security" employees of deep pocketed corporations. He actually did the Internet a favor by exposing primary weaknesses, but I would never put Mitnick in the same category as a spammer or ascribe the same sentence to them. They are in an entire class by themselves and completely useless to anyone. Spammers are the true nuisances who should be punished excessively, not people like Mitnick. Nope. I'm basing my theory on the fact that our judges are all old and have no idea of how a computer works, what spam is, or anything.
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| Re: Finally Actually, having had cases in the federal courts in both Seattle (where this guy is) and Tacoma, the courts are extraordinarily tech forward and the judges and staff extremely competent about technology. I doubt the judge in Seattle will have a difficult time understanding these issues. | |
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| said by major marco : Mitnick's only crime was breaking into unsecured servers and humiliating the "computer security" employees of deep pocketed corporations. You forgot theft (computer manuals) and possession of illegal equipment.
While he might have done the world a favor, he went about it the wrong way. | |
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| Re: Finally said by moonpuppy :said by major marco : You forgot theft (computer manuals) and possession of illegal equipment. I don't think dumpster diving and social engineering constitute theft. I was not aware one could illegally possess equipment purchased legally. There is a lot of communication gear for sale on ebay, I believe the gear Mitnick had was made illegal after he was kidnapped by the FBI.
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| Re: Finally said by ossito16 :I don't think dumpster diving and social engineering constitute theft. I was not aware one could illegally possess equipment purchased legally. There is a lot of communication gear for sale on ebay, I believe the gear Mitnick had was made illegal after he was kidnapped by the FBI. If I am wrong please let me know. He "socially engineered" his way into a few companies and physically took manuals. | |
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| Re: fat hope Without a brain, zombies cannot function unless they are already set to execute at certain intervals and automatically collect emails.
Even then zombies are quickly identified and sometimes shutdown depending on the circumstances.
The biggest advantage now is that this individual cannot make anymore zombies.
Someone will take his place but at least we got one of the big bass, and it shall be cooked well done.
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| Re: Useless said by major marco :Taking down spammers is like trying to "win" the war in Iraq. For every "insurgent" killed, three dozen more take his place. Yes, this is more of a witch hunt. While I think spammers should be prosecuted, shouldn't they also fine or prosecute the companies who use his service as well.
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| Re: Useless said by spamd :said by major marco :
Taking down spammers is like trying to "win" the war in Iraq. For every "insurgent" killed, three dozen more take his place.
Yes, this is more of a witch hunt. While I think spammers should be prosecuted, shouldn't they also fine or prosecute the companies who use his service as well. Maybe this needs to be in bold: shouldn't they also fine or prosecute the companies who use his service as well? | |
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but I have to think that someday we might get away from this stupid spam. optimistic viewpoint I suppose...
Glad they got one guy, but I really do hope they punish him more severely than Mitnick or his type...
Spam is one thing, but stealing someone's identity, now that right there deserves some serious attention.
Whack-a-mole goes on... I really doubt that there'll be a "serious reduction" in the volume of spam - sure be nice though. | |
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| Re: Useless Yes Indeed. Just because the guy's in jail, doesn't mean neither his spambots have gone away, nor will not spread even more. What's to keep him from even making money while he's in the pen (if he goes.) I'm sure he wasn't pulling this off by himself, so he probably has little minions who'll keep the Zombies going. I personally think the guy should be flogged at a Microsoft Convention and made to read his own spam for the entire length of his jail term (again, if he goes.) | |
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| Re: To be so loved That won't help if he can get his hands on a satellite phone...unless "hard labor in Siberia" means spending the next 10 years living a few miles below the earth's surface mining little bitty rocks.
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Di relung hatiku bernyanyi bidadari
join:2005-05-17 | Re: To be so loved Hey, that's a pretty good idea.
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join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA | Maybe it's working... I haven't really had a problem with too much spam, it seems to me most of the spam filters work pretty good. I've had the same email address for 11 years, so perhaps it's been taken off lists since they've never hooked anything from me. | |
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join:2006-02-24
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1 edit |  Robert Alan Soloway, Lock his sorry a$$ up!
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Cost of attorneys for Robert Alan Soloway to defend himself against felony charges handed down by a grand jury: $500/hour, easily.
Smiles on faces of internet users everywhere at prospect of making an example of one of these lowlife scumbags: Priceless.
Obviously, Mr. Soloway is innocent 'til prov-en guilty' in a court of law. If, however, he is in fact prov-en guilty, I suggest he raise some cash by putting himself in a padded suit and allowing internet users to pelt him with rotting produce at $10/minute, then broadcast it on YouTube.com. Heck, I'm a nice guy -- I'll even let him retain the streaming-video rights for that. He could be a star on YouTube, instead of (allegedly) something I want to wipe off the bottom of my shoe.
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| Re: Robert Alan Soloway, Lock his sorry a$$ up! I remember seeing a story recently about an Iraqi performance artist living in America who set up a website where users could trigger a paintball gun to fire at him. Maybe do something similar for Soloway.
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1 edit | said by Jason Levine :I remember seeing a story recently about an Iraqi performance artist living in America who set up a website where users could trigger a paintball gun to fire at him. Maybe do something similar for Soloway. My other suggestion involved a spam filter, a publicly posted e-mail address, and electric current. Every time the spam filter identified a piece of spam, he would get zapped. A better idea would be a throwing a ball against a target and when you hit it dead on, it would send a five thousand volt electrical shock to Soloway nads.
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| Take down the owners of the products advertised. I don't get spam for ma and pa bakery goods, or local retailers, I get spam for commercial pharmaceutical products, publicly traded stocks, and countless other high dollar products or services from legitimate companies.
It's not very hard to figure out the source of the problem here unless you blindly choose not to look at the source.
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1 edit | Need my stock tips. Damn no more stock tips.
Funny how the government turns a blind eye to who the companies he was spamming. I'm sure they are innocent.I have no faith in our government anymore to protect the citizens from the corporate giants. | |
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| Re: Need my stock tips. said by MeKuN :Damn no more stock tips. Funny how the government turns a blind eye to who the companies he was spamming. I'm sure they are innocent.I have no faith in our government anymore to protect the citizens from the corporate giants. In the case of the penny stock spams, the companies are innocent.
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join:2006-01-08
| Even though he is arrested for sure... I think the other spamgangs are also knowing this infomation too, I mean it is all part of the game, and so far I just got hit with 3 of BadCow's spam just now,
I am beggening to think that with them knowing of Soloway's arrest, looks like Badcow and Yambo's group might be making more hard to get rid of viruses as well as tougher tracking to find the spam gangs, apparently that is where are going to land at once Summer begins. | |
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| I hope I hope he is forced to turn over all information about his dealings so that the companies that paid him can be made public, his botnet can be affected, any foreign servers can be closed to him, and any helpers can be rounded up as well.
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| Vote for me Clearly he is a predator who looks at his fellow humans as merely something to be exploited.
I see no reason for him being allowed to live at all.If elected I pledge to rid the earth of this kind of scum.
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| Re: Vote for me said by madrhino :Clearly he is a predator who looks at his fellow humans as merely something to be exploited. And the difference between the King of Spam and any corporate entity is what, exactly?
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| Ban by IP address????? I think what would help is the ability for services like
Yahoo to filter by IP address.
If you have spam coming from 29.34.247.21 and 29.34.247.50
and you don't know anyone in argentina or wherever the ip
address country resolves to, filter 29.*.*.* and it's done.
banning by subject line or domain name doesn't seem to
work, but every computer has to have an IP address.
Start with the last digit series, if it continues to be
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| Ban! Guys, you are all wrong.
The best thing to do is just ban spam for everyone but the police. Spam can be dangerous, and is very annoying. Banning it will mean that spammers will not be able to get their hands on spam. Also arrest people are found in possession of spam.
Banning things that I don't like is a good idea. Yeah. | |
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| so THE QUESTION this moring is DID anyone notice their spam amount go down in their Email?
yes o did, yesterday I had 72 spam in 1 of 2 accounts,
last night/this morning only had 45
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| Re: so THE QUESTION this moring is said by whocares :DID anyone notice their spam amount go down in their Email?yes o did, yesterday I had 72 spam in 1 of 2 accounts, last night/this morning only had 45 I don't think you will see a decrease in spam overnight.
His network of spam bots (zombie computers) is probably still alive and active and will take a good while to "play" themselves out.
Even though he was in the top 10 of all spammers, I dont think we would see a significant decrease in spam.
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Peterborough, ON | Dang I was wondering why my spam email address hasn't received any 419's in it today, normally I get at least 20 spams a day......
does this mean that fun with 419's will be less frequent I wounder? Yep only 2 spams none 419 dang..... | |
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