ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT 1 edit |
ptrowski
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2007-Jul-19 10:30 am
Seriously Ashton Kutcher?I just can't take the company seriosly knowing that idiot is at the helm. Good luck whoever tries it!
Dear lord it's true...
Ashton Kutcher, Creative Director
Ashton Kutcher started his career in entertainment as a model, and then transitioned into acting on "That 70's Show", which had a very successful nine year run. During his time on the show, he founded a film and TV production company, Katalyst, with partner Jason Goldberg. Together they produced the hit television show "Punk'd" on MTV, as well as the features "The Butterfly Effect" and "Guess Who". Today, Ashton produces several television shows including "Beauty and the Geek" for the CW, "Miss/Guided" for ABC, "Adventures in Hollyhood" and "Room 401" for MTV. He has many features in development and also runs a viral video internet campaign. He was named one of Details magazine's "Mavericks" of 2006. | |
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| JeffConnoisseur of leisurely things Premium Member join:2002-12-24 GMT -5 |
Jeff
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2007-Jul-19 10:48 am
Re: Seriously Ashton Kutcher?said by ptrowski:I just can't take the company seriosly knowing that idiot is at the helm. Good luck whoever tries it! Dear lord it's true... Ashton Kutcher, Creative Director Ashton Kutcher started his career in entertainment as a model, and then transitioned into acting on "That 70's Show", which had a very successful nine year run. During his time on the show, he founded a film and TV production company, Katalyst, with partner Jason Goldberg. Together they produced the hit television show "Punk'd" on MTV, as well as the features "The Butterfly Effect" and "Guess Who". Today, Ashton produces several television shows including "Beauty and the Geek" for the CW, "Miss/Guided" for ABC, "Adventures in Hollyhood" and "Room 401" for MTV. He has many features in development and also runs a viral video internet campaign. He was named one of Details magazine's "Mavericks" of 2006. With that list of all of those accomplishments, I don't think I'd go as far as calling him an idiot. I agree he doesn't publically portray himself to be the sharpest tool in the shed, but that resume of achievements you listed makes him, in my book, at least a tad smarter than your average idiot. That being said, I'm not sure I understand the concept of this phone yet. I have some more reading to do on it. | |
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| | N3OGHYo Soy Col. "Bat" Guano Premium Member join:2003-11-11 Philly burbs |
N3OGH
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2007-Jul-19 11:46 am
Re: Seriously Ashton Kutcher?I don't know if I would call those things "accomplishments". Plenty of not so bright people can memorize and regurgitate lines with emotion. In many instances people are given a producer credit for having the cash to fund the company.
Now, I realize this is just MHO. When I think of accomplishment I think of things like obtaining an advanced degree, earning a pilot's license, or hiking the Appalachian trail.
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Jeff
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2007-Jul-19 1:16 pm
Re: Seriously Ashton Kutcher?said by N3OGH:I don't know if I would call those things "accomplishments". Plenty of not so bright people can memorize and regurgitate lines with emotion. In many instances people are given a producer credit for having the cash to fund the company. Now, I realize this is just MHO. When I think of accomplishment I think of things like obtaining an advanced degree, earning a pilot's license, or hiking the Appalachian trail. But that's just me... He seems to have a good amount of talent, a good amount money, good health, and a very pretty wife and family. I'd call all of those accomplishments. Your examples are too accomplishments, just other types. But, I'm not here today to get lost in semantics. | |
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| dentman42 Premium Member join:2001-10-02 Columbus, OH |
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Yeah, I can't shake the image of Kelso..."VOIwhat?!!!" Maybe he thinks if enough chicks buy in he can get some of them to DO IT... | |
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| | ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
ptrowski
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2007-Jul-19 11:26 am
Re: Seriously Ashton Kutcher?said by dentman42:Yeah, I can't shake the image of Kelso..."VOIwhat?!!!" Maybe he thinks if enough chicks buy in he can get some of them to DO IT... I can see it now.... They have to close down, and the only thing they say is "You've been punked". | |
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Better than a disposable cell phone!"Ooma customers who maintain their landlines help enlarge the network by contributing their connections to a local calling area, allowing another ooma customer to use it to complete a call. Thanks to call-routing software, phone calls should not be affected if someone's line is being used by someone else."
Can't you imagine the possibilities when someone uses this for nefarious deeds? The poor sucker whose landline was the PSTN connection point is going to be squashed like a grape.
And then there are the fun Homeland Security aspects...
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Re: Better than a disposable cell phone!My first thought too. quote: Each Ooma box is part of Oomas network. The box in your home, for instance, might carry someone elses phone call, though you cant hear that call, and this doesnt interfere with your own ability to make and receive calls whenever you want.
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Re: Better than a disposable cell phone!Yep. And...while you're using Ooma to place your call using someone else's landline, someone else is terminating their call with your landline. This makes total sense. | |
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Re: Better than a disposable cell phone!Mextel and other international telecoms that charge high connection fees would be hurt by this if it went international. But with the inherit (apparent) insecurity I don't see how telecoms or gov'ts would allow this. | |
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vick04 join:2006-08-06 South Richmond Hill, NY |
vick04
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2007-Jul-19 10:44 am
WTF?I dont get the concept. If you still have to use your land line, whats the point of this? How can your calls be free if your still paying for the land line? | |
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How does it work exactly?Does it use the subs landline as the point of termination on the PSTN? If so...
1) How can you guarantee privacy? 2) How can you guarantee the subs POTS provider doesn't alter the TOS to prhibit this tech? | |
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jgkolt Premium Member join:2004-02-21 Avon, OH |
jgkolt
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2007-Jul-19 11:07 am
long distancehow do they make sure the caller doesn't make the terminating call a long distance on on your bill | |
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Re: long distanceI imagine the initial calling sequence routes you to a local phone. | |
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StanfordEE to jgkolt
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2007-Jul-19 11:54 am
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Saw a grad from Stanford Electrical Engineering on the team. Device looks GREAT, and I hope to be one of those who can get one of the initial units without cost if possible. With 802.11n Spectrum at 700mhz likely to be FREE soon for broadband, it looks like we are going to be seeing a mass transformation away from the OLD HAT business models and on to the new. Alot of Stanford grads seem to be leading the charge in the right direction. The young energetic graduates from the good schools make me as a human feel so great inside. | |
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jester121
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2007-Jul-19 12:13 pm
Re: long distancesaid by StanfordEE :
Saw a grad from Stanford Electrical Engineering on the team. Device looks GREAT, and I hope to be one of those who can get one of the initial units without cost if possible. That would be the one way getting your money's worth from this hare-brained scheme. | |
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digitaldivide
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2007-Jul-19 11:35 am
Cell phonesHaven't they ever heard of a cell phone with unlimited calling plan? Who talks on a home phone connected to wire anymore? | |
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Re: Cell phonesMe for various reasons.... | |
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This will be great for using outside USA if it works.. Relatives of immigrants can make cheap/free calls to USA and talk 24 hours a day...LOL | |
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john262
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2007-Jul-19 11:44 am
Too much negativityWhy is it that on almost any topic in this forum regarding any type of new technology, the vast majority of comments always turn out to be negative? You can put it in the bank. If there's a topic about it at BBR, the response if going to be negative. | |
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Re: Too much negativityAnd your post is positive how, exactly? | |
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| ptrowskiGot Helix? Premium Member join:2005-03-14 Woodstock, CT |
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Isn't your post a negative post? You should be more positive. | |
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| emptywigHuh? What? Premium Member join:2002-08-05 Pasadena, TX |
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You gotta call 'em like you see 'em. A bad idea is a bad idea even if the gizmo looks cool. I have seen plenty of perfectly good reasons expressed here as to why this is a bad idea and/or won't work.
Why so many negative comments about new technology? Because the fact is that most new technology is not all that good. This has always been the way of the world. Way more bad ideas out there than good ones.
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kyler13Is your fiber grounded? join:2006-12-12 Annapolis, MD |
kyler13
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2007-Jul-19 11:56 am
WowLet's see, I use about $5/month long distance, so how many months would it take for this $399 device to pay me back since I'd need a POTS line? 80 months is nearly 7 years, and I doubt this idea lasts that long. On another note, if you're terminating your call at someone else's POTS line to route the call locally on the PSTN, who's caller ID info shows up? Doh. | |
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rileyjam514There You Go Again... join:2005-06-26 Kearny, NJ
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Dude..I can't help but think of a certain term related to Ferengi foreplay when I look at the name of this company.
On another note, I think that while the technology is the same as everything else that's out there (I'm looking at you, Skype), the fact that Ashton Kutcher's involved might just be the glam factor they need to get it off the ground. On the other hand, this may wind up killing his career, if it fails and everyone associates it with him. Mighty big risk for a business without a solid model behind it. Good luck, Ashton. | |
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n2jtx
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2007-Jul-19 12:46 pm
Why?Why do I get the feeling that a lot of people are going to buy these things and then one day... B U R N E D ! ! ! ! ! ! | |
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ctceo Premium Member join:2001-04-26 South Bend, IN |
ctceo
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2007-Jul-19 4:40 pm
Free?I thought we already got free voice?
Yahoo, AIM, Teamspeak, Roger Wilco, AdCalls, Ventrillo, XFire, blah, blah, blah. | |
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dvd536as Mr. Pink as they come Premium Member join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ |
dvd536
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2007-Jul-19 6:37 pm
Why why whyDo i need this if i already have POTS? | |
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QuestionsThere are many questions, first being how and what infrastructure is use to make call outside the VOIP network. Nobody including Mossberg as gave a satisfactory answer. Do they have their own phone banks or will they use the customer POTS line a la FON. Another problem is the business model. It relies only on getting new people to sign up to produce revenue. The business falls apart when there not enough subscribers to generate income. | |
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MikePea
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2007-Aug-2 11:23 pm
OOMA probably destroys DSLOOMA says that you can use DSL for your BB access, but it uses a transmission between its hub and scout units that is similar to DSL, and it does it over what is most often the same pair of wires that is supposed to carry the DSL (unless you rewire your house). Don't see how this can work. | |
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rosco35
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2007-Aug-11 12:32 pm
What about whenyour call is connected through someone elses POTS line, and someone in their house picks up the phone and tries to dial? | |
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3 year plan?Step 1- Put together your management team Step 2- Attract investment funds Step 3- Hype and sell product Step 4- Pay your management team over-inflated salaries Step 5- Managment team enjoys the short term gig Step 6- Company dies after 3 yrs. Step 7- Users sell their devices on ebay for $10 each
From their website:
*Your one-time purchase of the ooma Hub device means you wont owe monthly charges to ooma for unlimited calls in the United States for at least three years. | |
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NY Tel
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2007-Aug-12 8:46 am
Re: 3 year plan?I smell the vestiges of a Rocket Burnout here if you catch my drift.... | |
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