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Premium
join:2005-01-27
 ·Verizon FIOS
| I got that letter last week... and glad I read it too. 2 minutes later, I called the robot and "supposedly" I am out.
But how many folks will even notice this, let alone toss it and its "6pt type" letter to the trash?
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Jeffrey
too dark too early
Premium
join:2002-12-24
Dix Hills,NY
clubs: | Re: I got that letter last week... I never got it, or if I did, I don't remember seeing it and just tossed it. My fault.
Thanks to dslreports.com, I have a second chance. | |
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join:2001-10-06
Pittsburgh, PA
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: I got that letter last week... I never got the letter or maybe I tossed it because I pay on-line. But this is simply amazing to me that they can sell "proprietary" information. Doesn't that contradict the term proprietary ?? The term CUSTOMER proprietary information....it belongs to the customer..you talk about an invasion of privacy. I'm just thankful for the post and immediately opted out of such BS. | |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
 ·Comcast
| Your're lucky....i wish the death star did this. You may want to find out just how long your "opt out" function runs for though, Some companies are using a sunset provision allowing them to sell info after a designated amount of time. Anything for a buck!
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KA3SGM
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Premium
join:2006-01-17
West Chester, PA
clubs:
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·Verizon FIOS
| Sounds like a good time for Verizon Wireless to ABSOLVE any current customers of any Contractual obligations you might supposedly have to them.
I PORT MY NUMBER, I CANCEL MY SERVICE, F-U VERIZON WIRELESS.
IF you Sell MY Private Information to make YOURSELF MONEY, never expect an Early Termination Fee!!!
AT&T has been vacated of contractual obligations with it's customers over simple price increases, or 'required technology upgrades', i.e...ANALOG/TDMA/GSM.....
Nuff Said, You Lousy Sons of Bitches!!
OOOH, an OPT OUT call is REQUIRED, if you do nothing, bend over and live with it.
How much time does the OPT OUT call buy us, 30 days, 60 days, certainly not more than 90 days???
This amounts to F'ing Treason Against Your Own Customers, You F'ing Bastards.
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anon33
@sbcglobal.net
| Note though that Verizon doesn't give out your name or phone number, and without the ability to identify you, it's only statistics. Further, for most people, lion's share of their calls are to other people rather than to businesses, so I'm wondering, who might be even interested to purchase this data, and for what use... I'm sure Verizon will get much more negative publicity from this initiative than it will earn by selling this data. | |
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nitros22
join:2004-11-03
Chicago, IL | What the hell are these people thinking I work for sprint and we just went through this huge training on keeping customer CPNI safe and not use it incorrectly. Now Verizon is selling peoples CPNI if they don't opt out. WOW that's all i can say. | |
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ib50MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI | Evil Ba$tards! I hope a pissed off employee obtains the call records of the top 100 Verizon exec's and posts them online.
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Evil Ba$tards! said by ib50MbSoon  :I hope a pissed off employee obtains the call records of the top 100 Verizon exec's and posts them online. They all opted out. | |
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JerseyDevil
Premium
join:2006-11-06
New York, NY
clubs:
 ·Vonage
| Opt Out Number For those of us that either mis-read or tossed the letter as it was in small print and since that scan of the letter is low quality (at least on this e-term at work) can someone provide the optout insturctions for those of us who want to optout.
Thanks
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JTRockville
Data Ho
Premium,MVM
join:2002-01-28
Rockville, MD
clubs: | Re: Opt Out Number Dial 1-800-333-9956.
You'll be prompted to enter your 10 digit mobile phone number, your billing zip code, and the last 4 digits of your social security number. | |
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telcolackey
The Truth? You can't handle the truth
join:2007-04-06
Death Valley, CA
| Verizon web site info I always think twice before reacting to something like this. When I called the number it asked me for my PIN and not sure how well verified this article and doc is. That said, in the following FAQ there is an email address as well:
»www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/glob···PNI_FAQS | |
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tiger72
SexaT duorP
Premium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
clubs: | other cell companies? Any news on T-Mobile, Sprint, etc... if they're doing this? | |
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Optin
@nextweb.net | We need Opt In laws Rather than make customers jump through hoops to not have Verizon whores selling their info, we need laws forcing these companies like Verizon and banks to obtain specific permission to whore out the info. | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: We need Opt In laws said by Optin :
Rather than make customers jump through hoops to not have Verizon whores selling their info, we need laws forcing these companies like Verizon and banks to obtain specific permission to whore out the info.
Actually Verizon is the Pimp you are the Whore. | |
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kingfisher
Premium
join:2007-07-17
Webster, NY | Opt out contact number Number given in Verizon's "opt out" instructions was 1-800-333-9956. When reached "follow the recorded directions". | |
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| JerseyDevil
Premium
join:2006-11-06
New York, NY
clubs:
·Vonage
| Re: Opt out contact number Thanks I called and it took all of 2 minutes. Interesting article available on this at:
»arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···ata.html
Verizon of course says that sharing this will allow them to offer new services and stuff but gives no examples of how this information will benefit. Personally, the feeling of Big Brother watching, witch of course they are doing is scary.
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| | moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| Re: Opt out contact number said by JerseyDevil :Verizon of course says that sharing this will allow them to offer new services and stuff but gives no examples of how this information will benefit. Total BS. All that Verizon wants to do is make more money. They sell this information because raising rates will drive customers away. | |
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wahoospa
join:2006-03-23
Charleston, SC
| Opt Out Why don't they let the default be automatic "opt out" and then you can call to "opt in" if you want to. They are defaulting to something that most everyone would not want to be defaulted to and they know it. Trying to cover their asses for the future. | |
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| ElJay
join:2004-03-17
·Great Works Internet
| Re: Opt Out I'm surprised Verizon didn't tell people that they would need to pay an extra monthly fee to opt out of this "service." Just look at the arcane non-published number fee and the way they extort money out of individuals who do not want their name and landline number listed in the phone book.
I'm just glad that our banks don't operate in the same way. | |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| Re: Opt Out said by ElJay :I'm surprised Verizon didn't tell people that they would need to pay an extra monthly fee to opt out of this "service." Just look at the arcane non-published number fee and the way they extort money out of individuals who do not want their name and landline number listed in the phone book. There is at least some plausible justification for charging these fees. That is the extra support/effort from the phone company to supply (or not supply) the number via 411/xxx-555-1212 when the caller is unable to find the number/information in the Printed Phone Book (or now the Internet Phone Number look-up sites). | |
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join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | Re: Opt Out You are honestly saying it cost more to not have the information there than it does to have it there? | |
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join:2003-07-15
Milwaukee, WI | Re: Opt Out And don't forget, they get somewhere in the neighborhood of $1.75 per 411... I call bull$^&t | |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| said by Skippy25 :You are honestly saying it cost more to not have the information there than it does to have it there? The idea is that if it is there, the Information Operator will be used less since the number will/can, at least in theory, be looked up in the Printed Phone Book or Online in lieu of using Information (or the online equivalent). The fee is supposed to pay for the extra use of Information for those numbers that can NOT be located via the Printed Phone Book or Online. I can see this view although I am not saying that the fees charged is justified (as opposed to be excessive in relationship to the extra usage that is triggered) since ANY call to Information is charged for (and that charge SHOULD be set to recover the cost of the staffing needed to supply the service). | |
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join:2004-03-17 | Isn't the user paying for 411 service?
At $50+/year for a non-published number, that's a lot of time for some Indian to be fielding calls about my phone number. | |
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theydo
@dslextreme.com
| said by ElJay :I'm just glad that our banks don't operate in the same way. Banks (and credit cards) do operate the same way...
If you don't opt-out they can share your info among their affiliates. I get privacy opt-out reminders in my bank and CC statements every year. | |
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big pete in NJ
@verizon.net | re mention of NON PUBLISHED number fee
u can beat them by putting in a "recognizable nick name or alias" if u like - i did so - but it took months of legal wrangling - i am "in the book" under a "recognized family nick name" | |
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old_wiz_60
join:2005-06-03
Bedford, MA
·Verizon FIOS
| Very Simple Verizon wants to make more money. They can earn money by selling your information. So they want to sell your information. Very simple. However, this is not consumer friendly. What if you don't want new services? What if you just want the existing services to work? | |
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| itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA | Re: Very Simple Then you switch away from the NOTwork to one that works... | |
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Balooka
@myvzw.com | Re: Very Simple HAHAHA oh ITGuy, you are a funny POS! I'm sure you're the IT guy for Nordstrom, still running that mainframe! yah baby yah! | |
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TeatherWind
join:2001-08-21
Euless, TX | Should we text those people in our phone books, and pass along this info to friends and family? | |
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| | JerseyDevil
Premium
join:2006-11-06
New York, NY
clubs:
·Vonage
| Re: Very Simple said by TeatherWind :Should we text those people in our phone books, and pass along this info to friends and family? I would pass the info along, nothing to lose. This is legitimate unluck the claim of a cell phone directory. I have already called and opted out and I'd amke sure anyone you know who might want to optout is aware of the option to do so.
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Balooka
@myvzw.com | You're all confused... Its a LONG letter, but read if very careful. This info contains NOTHING personal, and it can ONLY be shared with the companies that own VZW ie, vz com, vodafone and vz biz. | |
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READ THIS
@myvzw.com
| Take it like this hrmm k -- Sales Guy works for VZBusiness, one of his customers is Company A. Company A wants the Sales Guy from VZBusiness to get a quote for new landline and cell RFP. Sales Guy from VZBiz would like to sell them a package deal, landline and wireless all in one. Since VZWireless is it's own company Sales Guy can't just call VZWireless to get their usage, cuz the FCC deems this illegal. Sales Guy would then need to call VZWireless, get the proper forms filled out, have Company A complete the forms, sign them and send back....Now do this with Company B, C, D, E, F G... and so on. This would turn into being a process just to get cell usage.
Once again ONLY VZ companies will have access to this very limited information. I've read the letter thru and thru and there really is nothing to worry about. | |
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ieolus
Support The Clecs
join:2001-06-19
Duluth, GA | Can you opt-out... ... of Verizon sharing your data with the Federal Government?
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
00000
clubs: | Re: Can you opt-out... encrypted voip calls only? | |
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anon33
@sbcglobal.net | No; but look at the bright side: if you ever want the info about someone's calls, all you need to do is call Verizon and tell them that you are police officer. By the way, the same applies to Paypal. | |
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backness
join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2 | First Customer.... NSA....
It's probably leagal for them to buy the data under the guise of another company | |
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MeKuN
join:2004-07-21
Eugene, OR | OPT IN Why cant it be 30 days to opt in? Why cant the government protect people from this crap ? To busy protecting the big corporations instead. | |
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jammmin
join:2000-12-14
Upper Marlboro, MD | thanks I never read those things in my bills.
Thanks for pointing it out. | |
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Pathfinder
Dazed Confused
Premium
join:2000-03-26
Mount Vernon, NY | Re: Thanks DSLR I made my call. I have 4 numbers on 3 accounts all billed to me. One call took 2 minutes.
Still I have to wonder why it isn't opt-in. | |
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mindurown
@comcast.net
| for the almighty dollar I wont be doing business with verizon and now I know what to ask when I sign up for new service, ill be damned if I pay for a service that has no regard for my privacy! If people stopped or changed their service verizon would seriously rethink the selling of our personal information, who I call, how long I am on the call and what service I purchase is my business alone. They start losing money i am sure they will change their position. | |
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jgkolt
Premium
join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
clubs: | tmobile What have they done regarding this in the past? You should be opted out unless you choose to opt in. ISNT THIS ILLEGAL??????
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ | Opt in how about making it so you have to call to opt in?
oh wait! there isn't any MONEY in it making the default opt out.
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Boricua65
join:2002-01-26
Puerto Rico | Done Let's see how they will honor those that are opting out. This is my only telephone and the last thing I need is BS on my line. | |
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OneHeart
join:2002-02-20 | System Unavailable System Unavailable
See time stamp of this post.
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