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Overland Park Will Get Google Fiber After All
by Karl Bode 08:43AM Tuesday Jul 08 2014
Most cities have rather quickly buckled to Google's demands in order to get Google Fiber into their towns, even if those deals aren't particularly great for the communities themselves. Recently, Overland Park, Kansas became the first city to hold up Google Fiber over indemnification and liability concerns, resulting in what appeared to be Google moving on to greener pastures.

The message sent by Google (and the annoyance of locals) appears to be received loud and clear. Overland Park has since agreed to all of Google's original demands and is now on the cusp of getting Google Fiber:
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Google and Overland Park officials had struck a preliminary deal last fall. Then on the evening it was set for a vote, some council members posed a few questions about liability issues. That prompted Google officials to ask for a delay in the vote.

At the next meeting, the council had put aside its concerns and was eager to vote for the Google deal in its original form. But Google walked away — surprising the council and city staff.

That move was seen by industry analysts as the tech giant sending a signal. Cities desperately wanted the broadband speed and high-tech cachet of Google Fiber. But Google would rather go elsewhere than put up with too much local regulation — even in what would appear to be the most lucrative part of the Kansas City market.
While there are certain questions to be asked regarding local rights in the face of Google demands, these are pretty clearly questions that aren't a priority right now in the face of potentially getting significantly better broadband.

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gaforces
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

Bend Over

So's google can put the thing.
Might be a better idea to install fiber yourselves, plenty of graduates to hire to run it.
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Let them eat FIBER!

jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR

Re: Bend Over

Overland Park is where the posh and rich live.

tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
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Re: Bend Over

Yep, and last I checked they had surewest fiber access there before Google came along. They certainly don't need to bend over unless they felt it to be beneficial to them...
ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20
Cleveland, OH

Re: Bend Over

It's also home to Sprint USA, and Gap/Old Navy and other well known companies/brands.

But at the end of the day- it will take YEARS before Overland Park even gets the GF.
tvoldtimer

join:2010-09-16
Overland Park, KS
said by tiger72:

Yep, and last I checked they had surewest fiber access there before Google came along. They certainly don't need to bend over unless they felt it to be beneficial to them...

Surewest (now Consolitated) $80/mo for 30Mbps or Google Fiber 1Gb for $70/mo....Which would you pick?
elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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Re: Bend Over

said by tvoldtimer:

Surewest (now Consolitated) $80/mo for 30Mbps or Google Fiber 1Gb for $70/mo....Which would you pick?

I'd take Surewest for 30Mbps at the $30/month they actually charge, for the next two years, rather than wait for GF to deliver some day at $70+/month or fret over a mythical "standard price" that I've never had to pay.

In two years, if Google has actually deployed, I would evaluate their service, but given the choice between $70+/month with forced-bundling for pay-tv, versus a much lower price-point for already-fantastic broadband speeds, I suspect, I would choose to stick with Surewest/Consolidated or whatever their name is then.
tvoldtimer

join:2010-09-16
Overland Park, KS

Re: Bend Over

said by elray:

with forced-bundling for pay-tv,

Where do you get the idea there is forced bundling?
elray

join:2000-12-16
Santa Monica, CA
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Re: Bend Over

said by tvoldtimer:

said by elray:

with forced-bundling for pay-tv,

Where do you get the idea there is forced bundling?

Has something changed?

Last I noted, you could not buy Google's pay-tv product for less than $120/month - as you are required to buy the $70 Gbit service.
tvoldtimer

join:2010-09-16
Overland Park, KS

Re: Bend Over

Sorry, I misunderstood your reference, I thought you were saying you couldn't get internet without TV.
Rakeesh

join:2011-10-30
Mesa, AZ

Re: Bend Over

That's what I thought. I mean who the fuck gets TV without internet these days? Shit, I do internet with no TV service myself.
tvoldtimer

join:2010-09-16
Overland Park, KS

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said by jchambers28:

Overland Park is where the posh and rich live.

Wow, thanks. I didn't know I was either posh or rich!

jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR

The rich bastards dont need Goolge fiber.

I was born in Raised in Lee's summit. I want to see my brother get it. The rich bastards in Overland park and Olathe don't need.

Packeteers
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Re: The rich bastards dont need Goolge fiber.

1%'er "rich bastards" are used to getting their way, even if it's counter productive. on the other hand, i do hope google is learning from it's other builds how not to piss off the locals as they push through on last mile installs. think of it another way... if you owned a $3mil house - what would be more important to you, getting cheap 1gig fiber or marring your property value... i thought so.

jchambers28

join:2007-05-12
Alma, AR

Re: The rich bastards dont need Goolge fiber.

If you want to know anything about the kansas city area let me know. I still have family there. I moved away because of the high prices of living there.
existenz

join:2014-02-12
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Re: The rich bastards dont need Goolge fiber.

Lee's Summit, Lenexa, Olathe, Mission Woods have similar income level and have had agreements, your point is not valid. Mission Hills and Leawood have much higher income and have Google agreements. OP is one of largest burbs, not wealthiest.

Google went for the lowest income city in metro first - KC, KS. Not something to be bitter about.
ITGeeks

join:2014-04-20
Cleveland, OH

Re: The rich bastards dont need Goolge fiber.

Actually Indeed states that the average income per person between OP and Olathe is only 1,000$ difference. With Olathe having $54k. I've seen much higher in Cleveland burbs, and they have FTTH WITHOUT Google.

HSDays

join:2007-11-26
Reynoldsburg, OH

Re: The rich bastards dont need Goolge fiber.

There's FTTH in Cleveland Suburbs? Maybe I'm missunderstanding your post?

chip89
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Independence, OH

Re: The rich bastards dont need Goolge fiber.

Hell No there is not! & it looks like there will never be.
sonicmerlin

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Cleveland, OH
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I can tell you from (painful) personal experience there is no FTTH in any of Cleveland's suburbs. If you've found some sort of diamond in the rough, please do tell.

chip89
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Independence, OH

Re: The rich bastards dont need Goolge fiber.

& it looks like since we have cable & At&t there never will be.
MURICA

join:2013-01-03
Getting cheap 1gig fiber would exponentially increase property value.
existenz

join:2014-02-12
kudos:1

Re: The rich bastards dont need Goolge fiber.

Not exponentially but if your neighborhood and city within metro has it and next door doesn't, you have an edge.
tvoldtimer

join:2010-09-16
Overland Park, KS
said by jchambers28:

The rich bastards in Overland park and Olathe don't need.

Looks like you picked the right place to live. Suits your personality.

amishdave

@66.64.113.x
I don't know where you get your facts, but plenty of people live in Overland Park who aren't rich...I only make 40k a year and live right in the middle of it. It's a large part of the greater KC area, and encompasses much of Johnson county.
jtel

join:2005-06-28
Bristol, RI

They Can Run Fiber to my Home Whenever They Want

I'm not getting FIOS anytime this century and for what I pay now I'd be getting 1GB with Google.
OwlSaver
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Berwyn, PA

Community agreements are too much

In the early days of cable people wanted TV so there were no agreements. Once the cable companies started making money, the communities wanted all sorts of things out of the franchise agreements - many completed unrelated to cable TV. It is reasonable for the cable companies to pay a fee for the use of poles and right of way. All the other stuff is ridiculous and the cost is passed on to the subscribers. I hope Google changes the way these deals are structured.
existenz

join:2014-02-12
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7000 miles fiber laid so far in KC

And for those critical of signup method, they have opened it back up in KCK and Central KCMO. Is not a one time shot as many think...

»www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/n···nty.html

tshirt
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Let the trenching begin...

Click for full size
... I hope you've got good homeowners insurance, cause sometimes we get a little bit off track.

fiosultimate

join:2014-06-09
San Antonio, TX

Re: Let the trenching begin...

They better bend over and lubricate quiet well, its gonna be a tight squeeze, its goona be a virgin hole, no other fiber has been dug there before

anon1234

@67.53.163.x

Re: Let the trenching begin...

Sure west has fiber all over the place there.
rmmoody

join:2001-02-15
Leawood, KS

Re: Let the trenching begin...

As do several other providers. One of the approved items was to allow Google access to OP's existing fiber huts.

In other news, at least now I have some hope of getting google fiber in my lifetime.

fiosultimate

join:2014-06-09
San Antonio, TX
Not for residential customers, they will soon learn a more aggressive provider might pound the hole too hard

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