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skedatl$
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| Re: will it work with any DSL line?? said by FDNY_RES4CUE:
the answer is?? The adapter bundle will come with a start-up disk pre-configured for a number of major ISPs, including EarthLink Inc. and SBC Communications Inc. , though Sony said any ISP can be used with the service.
now that i have a dsl line i cant wait to get playing with my PSX2..in months to come
just my 2 cents
Christopher
i have a PSX2 from day 1 he he he
Disc swapping...another reason Sony should wait for PS3 to introduce online gaming.
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| My guess is that the start-up disk is for the modem. The ethernet part (for DSL, cable modems, etc.) is easy, just give it the parameters you got from your ISP (if it's DHCP, you may not have to do anything at all).
My question is... does the software support PPPoE?
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@ibi.com | Re: will it work with any DSL line?? It probably will, but even if it does not, you could just by a router that does. You will probably want a router anyway so you can use both your computer and ps2 online at the same time and not have to worry about moving wires around. | |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Man can't wait to play Capcom Vs. Snk 2 or fighting games online | |
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| I got this email 02/04/2002, and of course I signed up. I hope I get picked. If I'm chosen, I'll let all of you know how it is. Hell, I'll even take it to NYC DSLR to let Justin and the crew have a look.
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Dear XXXXXX,
How would you like to help test the future of online gaming for the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system?
Now you can ... as an official Beta Tester.
Here's the deal. We're looking for qualified members of the XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX to help test our new Network Adaptor (Ethernet/Modem) (for PlayStation 2). This exclusive opportunity will enable a few chosen gamers to experience online gaming for the PlayStation 2 before it's made available to the masses.
If chosen as a Beta Tester, all you'll have to do is test the Network Adaptor and share your online gaming experiences with us.
To pursue this opportunity, simply follow these instructions:
Click on the link at the end of this e-mail.
You will be asked to answer approximately 15 questions.
Provide your PSU number when prompted. Your PSU number is: XXXXXXXXXXXX.
Write down the serial number of your PlayStation 2 computer entertainment system (located on the underside of your system, beginning with a "PT") and enter it in the appropriate field.
Hit "Submit." We will notify you shortly if you're selected as one of the chosen few to take part in this exciting opportunity.
To sign up to be an official online gaming Beta Tester, please visit www.xxxxxxxxxxx.com by XXX XX,XXXX.
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| Re: will it work with any DSL line?? said by Xylon69:
I got this email 02/04/2002, and of course I signed up. I hope I get picked. If I'm chosen, I'll let all of you know how it is. Hell, I'll even take it to NYC DSLR to let Justin and the crew have a look.
__________________________________________________________
Dear XXXXXX,
How would you like to help test the future of online gaming for the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system?
Now you can ... as an official Beta Tester.
Here's the deal. We're looking for qualified members of the XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX to help test our new Network Adaptor (Ethernet/Modem) (for PlayStation 2). This exclusive opportunity will enable a few chosen gamers to experience online gaming for the PlayStation 2 before it's made available to the masses.
If chosen as a Beta Tester, all you'll have to do is test the Network Adaptor and share your online gaming experiences with us.
To pursue this opportunity, simply follow these instructions:
Click on the link at the end of this e-mail.
You will be asked to answer approximately 15 questions.
Provide your PSU number when prompted. Your PSU number is: XXXXXXXXXXXX.
Write down the serial number of your PlayStation 2 computer entertainment system (located on the underside of your system, beginning with a "PT") and enter it in the appropriate field.
Hit "Submit." We will notify you shortly if you're selected as one of the chosen few to take part in this exciting opportunity.
To sign up to be an official online gaming Beta Tester, please visit www.xxxxxxxxxxx.com by XXX XX,XXXX.
gah lucky sob 
looks like its time to bug sony some more heheh
i want to beta test their online games.
Heck im curently in 3 closed betas
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| you dont have to buy sony's bb adaptor, you could get a linky, netgear and a couple others' usb network adaptor and hook it straight to the modem or thru a router. but for those that are Grrrr.....USB NICs, (like me) nevermind.
i just bought thps3 which is bb ready, you can setup the network (pppoe, static ip, DHCP) from inside the game and connect from there.
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Danbury, CT | said by FDNY_RES4CUE:
i have a PSX2 from day 1 he he he
waited in the cold and fog for 6 hours on October 26th (i believe it was), got it the same day!!!
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| jethrogump
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dial-up wont cut in with Playstation 2.
Go Sony!!! | |
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skedatl$
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| Too little too late Add on components comprise of less that 10% of sold consoles. With so little people buying it...little software manufacturers will support it. Especially in the face of the "technically" superior XBox and the fact that to save cash poor Squaresoft, Sony may have to port Final Fantasy to XBox.
(Let's not even start a PS2 vs. XBox debate).
Even Konomi is contemplating Metal Gear Solid X. Those and GT3 are the main reasons to buy a PS2. Do the math: PS2, $300, adapter $40, hard drive, not available.
To better compete I think Sony should wait and cut it's losses with PS2 trying to compete with XBox and since they've already moved up PS3's release date do to the unexpected popularity of XBox...the PS3 is way better positioned to be an XBox killer.
You just can't have a good gaming platform mixing broadband with narrow band...just like with PC's. You can't have unilateral support for voice communications and even similar latency with a mix like that.
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| Re: Too little too late So you are saying that PC's are not a good online gaming platform just because they're not "broadband only"? Even within broadband there's such a wide range of different technologies incorporating latency fluctuations that I think your notion of broadband only won't fly on any platform for now.
Oh, and by the way, Grand Theft Auto 3 is as good a reason as any to buy PS2. | |
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| Re: Too little too late said by ITGuy72:
So you are saying that PC's are not a good online gaming platform just because they're not "broadband only"? Even within broadband there's such a wide range of different technologies incorporating latency fluctuations that I think your notion of broadband only won't fly on any platform for now.
Oh, and by the way, Grand Theft Auto 3 is as good a reason as any to buy PS2.
I'm saying that when you mix speeds, it isn't as good a' gaming environment as a homogenious one. When you have some people on narrow band, then say voice chat in Counter Strike won't be supported, whereas XBox being all broadband, most everyone would be able to participate in voice chat during Ghost Recon, Doom III, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Robotech, or even Halo should Bungie wish to take advantage of the hard drive and release an update.
GTA 3 is also being ported to other platforms. Therefore not a reason to buy PS2 per se...not like say Final Fantasy X or Metal Gear Solid or Gran Turismo 3.
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| Check the sales figures for x-mas this past year............you know the one x-box was supposed to dominate!Sony has built a loyal following and thats why the external perp. WILL sell...............x-box is more powerful but size (heh...heh) doesn't always matter!
Sony has had a great product for7 yrs now.......bill gates thought he would build the fastest leanest machine on the block and guess what SONY'S SELLING MORE....PERIOD!!
Dear old Mr. Gates would have been better served to use another name/co. to launch his new gadget...........just his name alone turns off most people! (maybe Enron would be intrested!) | |
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| Re: Too little too late said by stu4now:
Check the sales figures for x-mas this past year............you know the one x-box was supposed to dominate!Sony has built a loyal following and thats why the external perp. WILL sell...............x-box is more powerful but size (heh...heh) doesn't always matter!
Sony has had a great product for7 yrs now.......bill gates thought he would build the fastest leanest machine on the block and guess what SONY'S SELLING MORE....PERIOD!!
Dear old Mr. Gates would have been better served to use another name/co. to launch his new gadget...........just his name alone turns off most people! (maybe Enron would be intrested!)
Even the President of Sony acknowledged that the XBox has shorted the projected live span of PS2. I have DC, PS2 and XBox and XBox is so much better...programmable shaders don't lie. All of the major publishers are committed to XBox prog development which means the games will get better and better. PS2's days are numbered. Sony should have saved the money and put it into PS3 development. Nintendo felt a few years ago what Sony feels now. Except...now where's Mario?
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| Re: Too little too late said by skedatl:
Even the President of Sony acknowledged that the XBox has shorted the projected live span of PS2. I have DC, PS2 and XBox and XBox is so much better...programmable shaders don't lie. All of the major publishers are committed to XBox prog development which means the games will get better and better. PS2's days are numbered.
On what do you base this information? I'm actually very interested in buying a console system since the N64 seems completely dead. I usually wait until systems are utterly exhausted before I purchase a new one and now's the time. One year from now, which system will still be pumping out the titles? The PS2 or the XBox. Also, pardon my ignorance, but what's the deal with the PS3? Is it actually in development or just a prototype? | |
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| Kunitake Ando on the XBox and PS3 said by RawisJericho:
said by skedatl:
Even the President of Sony acknowledged that the XBox has shorted the projected live span of PS2. I have DC, PS2 and XBox and XBox is so much better...programmable shaders don't lie. All of the major publishers are committed to XBox prog development which means the games will get better and better. PS2's days are numbered.
On what do you base this information? I'm actually very interested in buying a console system since the N64 seems completely dead. I usually wait until systems are utterly exhausted before I purchase a new one and now's the time. One year from now, which system will still be pumping out the titles? The PS2 or the XBox. Also, pardon my ignorance, but what's the deal with the PS3? Is it actually in development or just a prototype?
I based this on a quote from the Sony president.
"In a recent interview with The Financial Times, Kunitake Ando, president and CEO of Sony, said that the Microsoft Xbox, which comes with a hard drive and Ethernet adapter out of the box, could force the company to transition to the PS3 earlier than intended.
"The biggest threat to the PlayStation 2 is that the Xbox changes the industry's life cycle," said Ando, who feels that it is unclear whether the current PS2 business model is sustainable and that its console life cycle could be reduced to three years as a result."
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More from this can be found
»zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-531100.html
Playstation 2 is popular, but it's not going to kill off XBox, so to answer your question both will be. I think PS2 will remain more arcade based while XBox will move into that arena dominated by PC's, like 1st person shooters and online gaming. But all the publishers are writing for both. Even Sony has acknowledged that cash strapped Squaresoft may port Final Fantasy XI to Xbox.
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New York | Yep, and everyone said dreamcast was going to blow away PS1. Admittedly it was a more powerful console and had better games, but which prevailed because of popularity, not potential? | |
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| Re: Too little too late said by ITGuy72:
Yep, and everyone said dreamcast was going to blow away PS1. Admittedly it was a more powerful console and had better games, but which prevailed because of popularity, not potential?
Who said that? Sega never toppled anyone. Even the success of Genesis was short lived. Popularity and 100% HW support is what will drive XBox+PC gaming to levels that Sony could ever dream of.
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| Re: Too little too late said by skedatl:
said by ITGuy72:
Yep, and everyone said dreamcast was going to blow away PS1. Admittedly it was a more powerful console and had better games, but which prevailed because of popularity, not potential?
Who said that? Sega never toppled anyone. Even the success of Genesis was short lived. Popularity and 100% HW support is what will drive XBox+PC gaming to levels that Sony could ever dream of.
X-Box is just a striped down PC, in which I would rather have full blown PC that can do other things than play games. Competition is good; besides everything will be integrated in the new future, so arguing now which console is better is pointless. | |
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| Re: Too little too late said by beeman65:
said by skedatl:
said by ITGuy72:
Yep, and everyone said dreamcast was going to blow away PS1. Admittedly it was a more powerful console and had better games, but which prevailed because of popularity, not potential?
Who said that? Sega never toppled anyone. Even the success of Genesis was short lived. Popularity and 100% HW support is what will drive XBox+PC gaming to levels that Sony could ever dream of.
X-Box is just a striped down PC, in which I would rather have full blown PC that can do other things than play games. Competition is good; besides everything will be integrated in the new future, so arguing now which console is better is pointless.
The thing is it comes at a stripped down price. GeForce3 equipped at $300, cheaper than PS2 with BB. Not everyone has $1,500 to drop building a PC.
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| I'm a PS2 owner. Sony made smart moves during the 2001 holiday season -- they upped their third party game output. Every time I see an ad now for a game that looks half-way decent it always seems to have a PS2 at the bottom of the page. Aside from Halo, I haven't seen a game that truly peeks my interest on the XBox, aside from a solid football game, if one exists on the XB (but PS2's Madden 2001 is still the best ever in my opinion, 2002 had too many flaws).
The point is, PS2 has given us some truly great games in the past 6 to 12 months. And I personally know 3 people who went out and bought a PS2 just because they played GTA3 for 10 minutes. Metal Gear Solid 2 is another system seller. I'm not a big racing fan, but from what I've seen and heard PS2 has some of the best racing games ever made. I guess I can't give an honest opinion on the XB, only to say that from what I've seen it doesn't seem to have much in the way of Killer App games available. | |
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| Re: Too little too late said by Liquid4012:
I'm a PS2 owner. Sony made smart moves during the 2001 holiday season -- they upped their third party game output. Every time I see an ad now for a game that looks half-way decent it always seems to have a PS2 at the bottom of the page. Aside from Halo, I haven't seen a game that truly peeks my interest on the XBox, aside from a solid football game, if one exists on the XB (but PS2's Madden 2001 is still the best ever in my opinion, 2002 had too many flaws).
The point is, PS2 has given us some truly great games in the past 6 to 12 months. And I personally know 3 people who went out and bought a PS2 just because they played GTA3 for 10 minutes. Metal Gear Solid 2 is another system seller. I'm not a big racing fan, but from what I've seen and heard PS2 has some of the best racing games ever made. I guess I can't give an honest opinion on the XB, only to say that from what I've seen it doesn't seem to have much in the way of Killer App games available.
I have both PS2 and XBox and I agree, there are limited titles for Xbox...for now. But there were for PS2 6 months after launch. I remember waiting and waiting for GT3 and Metal Gear Solid. MGS is going to be ported to XBox so it'll no longer be a PS2 exclusive. BTW, NFL Fever for XBox smokes Madden on PS2. Coming soon is a slew of 1st person shooters for XBox including Ghost Recon which will smoke MGS. Also Medal of Honor, Lord of the Rings, and the new Star Wars RPG. Lord of the Rings and MoH are both XBox exclusives. For racing, Sega is releasing Sega GT (not quite as good at GT3 but still pretty good). It takes time to develop a "signature" game like GT but it'll happen, if it already hasn't from Halo.
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| I don't think I could ever play GT3 after playing GT2. It was such an awful game with horrible controls and the graphics made me sick. I'd seen better graphics on a Super Nintendo game.
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| Re: Too little too late said by alexthepsycho:
I don't think I could ever play GT3 after playing GT2. It was such an awful game with horrible controls and the graphics made me sick. I'd seen better graphics on a Super Nintendo game.
Even though I have GT2 and GT3, I just can't get into them like the original GT. GT2, there's nothing new but a few cars and GT3 is GT1 with better graphics. I was expecting more customization options like putting a blower on a Viper...like how the real world works.
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| ryanjms
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| SoWhat286
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| Bunch of new frag bait. Consoles suck in my vast opinion going from pre atari days compared to todays pc games.
A good idea though about online playing. I just don't see anyone kick'in ass with
a console. I should say if its dm game. Ass for first person tactical and role playing I can see it. Ok they don't suck I do not use them anymore. Sorry if I disturbed anyone. Maybe I will bust out some super mario or buck rodgers from the coleco days. | |
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| Re: Bunch of new frag bait. said by OrigSoWhat:
Consoles suck in my vast opinion going from pre atari days compared to todays pc games.
A good idea though about online playing. I just don't see anyone kick'in ass with
a console. I should say if its dm game. Ass for first person tactical and role playing I can see it. Ok they don't suck I do not use them anymore. Sorry if I disturbed anyone. Maybe I will bust out some super mario or buck rodgers from the coleco days.
You try halo online yet? | |
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| Re: Bunch of new frag bait. i love Halo online, it's a blast.
the one big problem though, is that my 128 kbit capped upload speed on cable doesnt cut it for this game at times.
not only do the new generation of consoles need broadband to play online, they need better broadband than many of us can get atm. if i could find a DSL provider that could get service to me i would jump on a line with 256 kb up or better, but unfortunately i live too far away.
hey maybe something good comes of it though, and cable providers start offering 256 kbit up lines for gamers at a small increase in cost or something soon  | |
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| Re: Bunch of new frag bait. said by martissimo:
i love Halo online, it's a blast.
the one big problem though, is that my 128 kbit capped upload speed on cable doesnt cut it for this game at times.
not only do the new generation of consoles need broadband to play online, they need better broadband than many of us can get atm. if i could find a DSL provider that could get service to me i would jump on a line with 256 kb up or better, but unfortunately i live too far away.
hey maybe something good comes of it though, and cable providers start offering 256 kbit up lines for gamers at a small increase in cost or something soon
Latency has more effect on online gaming than throughput. How does the problem manifest itself?
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| Re: Bunch of new frag bait. ya im aware that latency is generally the big factor in most games, but its seems that in this case just having great pings doesnt cut it. the game just sends a *lot* of data.
from the listed requirements at: »www.planetxbox.com/features/arti···001/gsa/
"A FAST broadband connection. (You will need at least 128kbps upstream bandwidth for most games, although Halo can require up to 256kbps upstream bandwidth per player in the game. If your connection is not fast enough you WILL experience lag and connection loss problems. No modem support is available or planned.)"
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| Re: Bunch of new frag bait. said by martissimo:
ya im aware that latency is generally the big factor in most games, but its seems that in this case just having great pings doesnt cut it. the game just sends a *lot* of data.
from the listed requirements at: »www.planetxbox.com/features/arti···001/gsa/
"A FAST broadband connection. (You will need at least 128kbps upstream bandwidth for most games, although Halo can require up to 256kbps upstream bandwidth per player in the game. If your connection is not fast enough you WILL experience lag and connection loss problems. No modem support is available or planned.)"
Holy smokes! Who would'a thunk it?!? I figured it would all be location data...it's not like transmitting graphics or anything.
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| Re: Bunch of new frag bait. I hope Microsoft can provide enough servers to handle all this bandwith. A typical CS connection only uses about 32kbps. Not sure why Halo requires so much. Maybe once MSN starts offering DSL through Verizon and SBC they will have higher upload caps . We can always dream, right? | |
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| Re: Bunch of new frag bait. said by manhole:
I hope Microsoft can provide enough servers to handle all this bandwith. A typical CS connection only uses about 32kbps. Not sure why Halo requires so much. Maybe once MSN starts offering DSL through Verizon and SBC they will have higher upload caps . We can always dream, right?
Halo is not designed from ground up as online muliti-player game. It is only designed as LAN game where bandwidth is not a problem. There will be new games specifically designed to play on the internet with Micosoft XBox Online (late this year). Right now, you are only play a hacked online (i.e. using software to trick Halo think the other XBoxs are in the same LAN) just like early days of Doom. | |
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Jaime
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Jaime
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Huntington Beach, CA | Re: sweet No, I would like it but its $50  . | |
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San Francisco, CA | Re: TPHS3 is already online playable on PS2 Yeah man, like this guy said. Buy yourself a d-link usb->ethernet adapter and you're set. I've tried it out at work already. Who needs a special sony adapter? Bah. | |
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Huntington Beach, CA | Re: sweet I have a motorola surfboard 4100 cable modem which has ethernet and usb connections. Can you hook it up with no adapter of any kind that way? | |
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| Is this the beginning of the end of PC gaming? Xbox has an ethernet connector, PS2 is coming out with it shortly. Is it only a matter of time before consoles rule the gaming world and I have to buy one to play the latest and greatest games? I'm merely throwing this out there for consideration.
My theory is that the more these companies can get you to buy, the better. Rather than having a "do it all" PC, you now need to buy an additional product to play games, but still need a PC for email, doc writing, managing your finances, etc. It's a shame because I don't play enough games to justify a console.
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| To all you Nay-sayers This is a step in the right direction, many of you who say "no one will support this" are saying the same thing as pessimistic DSL people. It will be supported, and I believe PS2 will be a long term system as was it's predecessor. Right now in Japan they have Capcom vs SNK 2 with netplay ability, which greatly improves the longevity of this game and will for other fighting games. As for optimizations, thats another issue, hopefully their code will run half-decent with 384kbps. I hear in Japan that DSL is dirt cheap. | |
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| Re: To all you Nay-sayers said by GeorgeB:
This is a step in the right direction, many of you who say "no one will support this" are saying the same thing as pessimistic DSL people. It will be supported, and I believe PS2 will be a long term system as was it's predecessor. Right now in Japan they have Capcom vs SNK 2 with netplay ability, which greatly improves the longevity of this game and will for other fighting games. As for optimizations, thats another issue, hopefully their code will run half-decent with 384kbps. I hear in Japan that DSL is dirt cheap.
My intention isn't to bash PS2 (I own 2 of them along with an XBox, Dreamcast and 2 PC gaming rigs) but to have separate components never lent itself to across the board acceptance and sure there will be some titles but software makers are going to look at what % of the 10% who will buy it, will buy their game. It's expensive. Let's look at programmable shaders in Geforce3, 4 and the ATI 8500. Eventhough it's been months since GeForce3 and ATI8500 came out, very few if any games support programmable shaders. This is because as many people that have, many more don't. Meanwhile XBox is rampant with programmable shaders 'cause every box has an NV20 proc in it.
The same goes for this broadband attachment for PS2. My belief is while Sony is going great now...so was Nintendo and they got topples. But online gaming for PS2 will never be huge like it is for PC or will be for XBox. PS3 is the perfect platform to smoke XBox with, especially since XBox is a natural port from PC and most likely will end up sharing gaming environments. So amount of PS2 online magic will ever measure up to a combined XBox+PC game arena.
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DJMADfx
join:2002-02-27
Bellmore, NY | How far will this go? With the PS2 only supporting around 4 players total for online gaming and various PC games supporting 32 players, PS2 has a long way to go. | |
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NJChris
PS3 Xbox ID Zzaz
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join:2000-02-08
Pompton Lakes, NJ
| It will sell... I really think that the broadband/modem will sell. Especially with Final Fantasy XI. I agree most add-on's won't sell, but I think this one will be different because on-line gaming is so big now.
Consoles are great, but so are PC games. I don't think one will "kill" the other. They can both survive and they both will. Why is it that people think only ONE gaming machine can exist? Silly..
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| looser
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La Mesa, CA |  $40 nic card
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Santee, CA
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| Re: $40 nic card said by looser:
I just went to fry's and got a $6 nic card for my computer.
The last $6.00 NIC I bought for my PC lasted all of about three months and as for purchasing computer stuff from Fry's Electronics(also known as Incredible Universe in some parts of the country), I do it with caution as about one out of five things that i've bought there had to be returned due to defects. Due to their low prices, it's sometimes worth the risk.
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join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Re: $40 nic card Double post.... sorry guys.
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| Never go for the cheapest item on the rack, whether it be Fry's or anywhere else. That's just asking for trouble. Most incredibly discounted items are so because of several factors including scratch and dents, old technology, discontinued items, and more makes the value that much less. That's especially true for computer parts like NIC cards, DVD and CD-RW's. Those items usually need updated drivers to work and sometimes you just can't get them or the new drivers just don't work well (probably due to lack of testing). Not every basement priced item is like that, but buyer beware. | |
| bry223
join:2001-09-16
Banning, CA
| Compete with the Xbox Im sorry but there is no competition there. The Xbox will not de-thron the PS2, the PS2 averages in the US about 80,000+ consoles a week sold and the Xbox only around 20,000 if that. Not to mention the recent bombing of the Xbox in Japan, it only sold barely over 100,000 in Japan and ot this day only sold 20,000 (Nearly 2 weeks).
I own a Xbox , a PS2 and a GC , but to think the xbox will take out the PS2 is ... absurd.
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| lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL
| Killer App 101 This will give broadband a huge boost and other Apps will start to follow. This could turn out to be the "Killer App" that got the broadband ball rolling.
I hope the RBOCs are listening because this will seriously inflate demand and they will see their "business decisions" to hold back DSL deployment from RTs was a bad move. That peice of the pie will be eaten by the cable companies.
When the RBOCs finally do get out to the RTs, they have to offer greater bandwidth and low price to attract customers from the cable companies. Maybe the start of competition. In the unlikely event some RBOC exec is reading this post, I include the following: (from dictionary.com)
compete
\Com*pete"\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. Competed; p. pr. & vb. n. Competing.] [L. completere, competitum; com- + petere to seek. See Petition.] To contend emulously; to seek or strive for the same thing, position, or reward for which another is striving; to contend in rivalry, as for a prize or in business; as, tradesmen compete with one another. | |
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rstlne
@mindspring.com | Sale anyone know where and when this is going on sale? | |
| | SmuvMoney
Trying To Get Over Like Superfly
join:2001-02-07
Chicago, IL
| Re: Sale I believe the article says sometime in August - no exact date was given.
Anyway, to add my $.02, I don't think that PS2 online gaming will go that far. Even if the peripheral was bought by 25% of all users, you're still left with a splintered market, which leaves developers in a quandry. Even with a killer app for PS2 BB (like Final Fantasy XI potentially), they would have to give the BB devices away to get close to 50% distribution or even 25% distribution.
To this day, like or hate the Dreamcast or Xbox, it was huge (almost genius) for both of them to include a modem and Ethernet capability respectively. Even though the DC is discontinued, it helped to pioneer console online gaming by simply including the modem, having an online service, and several good/great online games (sports, driving, FPS, etc). For this reason, I give the advantage in potential to the Xbox in the race for online gaming. The only thing I can hold against the Xbox is that broadband penetration in this country is probably not where they would want it to be. However, the Xbox doesn't have to worry about have/havenots like PS2 will have to. | |
| | jsahaida
join:2001-07-31
Saint Louis, MO
clubs:
| fighting other humans??? all the ps2ers will get to feel like what its like to fight other humans not crappy ai. once u start playing against and with others you never go back. but ps2 just isnt worth it. all the great console games are coming to pc anyway. yuck,trying to play an fps on a console is like taking out the mouse and going back to keyboards only for computers. buy a game for 40 bucks ,play it for 2 weeks,repeat. thats why i cant and dont own any next gen consoles. why have the games on my computer are free mods that are a ton better than console games like dod. yes this is a biased and anti console post if u didnt know already!!!!!!! P.S.if sony makes setting up the isp hard ,theyll also be screwed cause the simple american will get bored with trying to figure it out. | |
| markj72
join:2002-03-10
| I have both I bought my Xbox and just received my PS2 has a gift. Xbox rocks. Yes, PS2 has alot of games as i would expect a console that has been on the market for over a year now. Everything about the Xbox was easier to me and these are my first consoles. With the Xbox i could just play the game right out of the box and save my setting. I had to look for over a week to find a 8meg memory card that cost me 40 bucks at Walmart and was the lastone the had. Since then i have yet to find another one. The Xbox is really cheap in the long run with all these adapters to buy (other than DVD and if you dont have one of those aready your lagging behind). I love Red Faction on PS2 but if PS2 was waiting for me to purchase it over a Xbox that would never of happen. And yea I hate Windows too. :P
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@nni.com
| Re: I have both check this out its for my report on the history oif gaming
Which is a better system, Playstation 2, or Gamecube?
The PS2, and Gamecube, weren’t the first gaming systems. Gaming at home took a long time to develop, from the arcades. In 1972, a game by the name of Pong was released in arcades. Pong really jumpstarted video games. With the year 1976, came the creation of Cartridges, somewhat like the 8-Track audiocassettes. In 1977, the first Home system was introduced, and with a price tag of $249, Atari hit the stores. Atari became an instant success, people wanted to play their arcades at home.
Our friends at Nintendo come to introduce themselves in 1978, creating a game for the Atari system. The game was based on an old board game called Othello. In 1980, the most popular game of all time, Pacman went to the arcades. Pacman was and still is the most played game of all time. 1980 was a big and very important year for Nintendo. *“Minoru Arakawa, son-in-law of Nintendo Japanese’s Chief Hiroshi Yamauch opens Nintendo of America in New York City, then moves the company to Seattle, Washington. Unsuccessful at selling a number of mediocre electronic video games following computer Othello, the small American subsidiary has a decidedly uncertain future.”
Nintendo creates its first very successful game, “Donkey Kong” in 1981. Then in 1986, Nintendo is successful with their first system, The NES. At first they tested it in New York City, after being a huge hit there, they released it to the nation. The NES was very successful claiming the spot as the best gaming system in the US. Nintendo starts to monopolize the market with games such as Zelda, and Metroid. A new Zelda and Metroid are scheduled for Gamecube.
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@24.222.x.x | THPS3 question with the NA ok i have a question about the network adapter i plan to buy it i know how to hook it up...my question is will it work and if so how will i get it to work with Tony Hawk's 3? | |
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join:2002-09-13
Milwaukee, WI
|  Long Reach For Modem. NEED HELP!
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| HELP ME!!!! How do i connect my network adapter to my MSN broadband DSL 1000.My computer has an networking card which i am using to connect my computer to my DSL modem,And the DSL cable is connected to the DSL modem and along with a phoneline connected to a filter which is connected to my computer. So my question is how would i Connect my network adapter to my DSL modem?I have a router but for some reason its not working it has ports WAN,Uplink,1,2,3,and 4 | |
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