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join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
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| too little too late I had sprint with a trek 650 and 700p. I switched to iPhone cuz the treo was played out. Palm dragged their ass in coming out with new stuff, blackberry and apple are now the rulers of what once belonged to samsung and palm. The only way I see palm taking back some ground is coming out with a Linux version that can be fully modified. | |
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 | psychomf
join:2000-06-01
Silver Spring, MD | Re: too little too late the only way you can put blackberry in the "ruler" category is if they release a 3g capable device. Until then they are second tier to nokia and apple. | |
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fatmanskinny
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join:2004-01-04
Wandering | Re: too little too late I had a Treo 650 (or was that 750?). Those things are not robust and easily break. They cannot take a beating like the BlackBerries.
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| Re: too little too late I have a 700p and am pretty brutal with it. No issues after a year and a half of abuse. The 600/650 had more issues when dropped.
PalmOS is played out but is simple and to the point compared to windows mobile. I do like the new iPhone, just isn't PDA enough for me though. | |
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join:2004-07-31
Whiting, IN
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| Re: too little too late said by iggyyyyy I do like the new iPhone, just isn't PDA enough for me though.
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My iPhone which is jailbroken is the best phone I have ever had. Edge is fast enough for google maps when there is no wifi, otherwise I just use wifi to do online stuff i.e. stream XM radio over phone while I am cutting grass, not to mention mobilecast for my non iTunes podcast. My old treo 755p not even close. | |
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join:2007-09-17
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4 edits | Re: too little too late I dunno, I'll take the 20K-30K+ apps on PalmOS. Plus, I can tether it to laptop and get EVDO. iPhone just isn't a very open PDA, not even an SD slot. Apple is too proprietary, which is good for some but not for me. I do like the web browser though.
For my needs, iPhone not even close until they open it up. It's great for consumers but not for power users. | |
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Boricua65
join:2002-01-26
Puerto Rico
| Re: too little too late said by ptrowski  :You mean like the Blackberry Bold that is coming? And don't forget the Blackberry Thunder coming out Q3. That one has the touch screen, BTW.
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join:2000-06-01
Silver Spring, MD | Re: too little too late arent they delayed again? still not out so my comment stands... | |
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djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | From a technical standpoint, perhaps, but, Blackberry definitely rules the corporate world.
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Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: too little too late Yup
I have a Blackberry for work... even though its a Nextel Blackberry.
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join:2004-03-28
Northridge, CA | Re: too little too late Yeah, I just don't see the 800 being all that much greater than my 700wx. So I may just wait for the Bold and make a switch.
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| The European and Asian targeted BlackBerry 8707 series runs on 3G UMTS networks, albeit without HSDPA.
BlackBerry's 8703, Pearl 8130, 8830, and Curve 8330 models all use EV-DO 3G, which is better deployed in the US than UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA anyway. (But the "world phone" 8830 has to fall back on GSM/GPRS in other countries, which is frankly ridiculous- not even EDGE?) | |
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join:2007-07-20
Mechanicsburg, PA | Re: too little too late Coming from someone who has used Blackberry 7130, Moto Q9M, UTStarcomm 6700 and Palm 750W I will always rate Blackberry at the top.. The easiest to use.. | |
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join:2001-04-22
Rockford, IL
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| said by EPS :The European and Asian targeted BlackBerry 8707 series runs on 3G UMTS networks, albeit without HSDPA. BlackBerry's 8703, Pearl 8130, 8830, and Curve 8330 models all use EV-DO 3G, which is better deployed in the US than UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA anyway. (But the "world phone" 8830 has to fall back on GSM/GPRS in other countries, which is frankly ridiculous- not even EDGE?) Network Quad-Band: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz GSM®/GPRS and EDGE networks‡
»www.blackberry.com/ap/products/h···0.shtml# | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: too little too late Hm, my information sheet must have been off them- makes sense, only having GPRS would be a huge oversight for any phone nowadays. | |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
1 edit | said by psychomf :the only way you can put blackberry in the "ruler" category is if they release a 3g capable device. Until then they are second tier to nokia and apple. Oh that's so not true.
First off 3G doesn't work everywhere so there's that. It isn't what defines whether the device is good. Besides as has been said they have one on the way.
In terms of the corporate space, Apple is the one with ground to gain, not Blackberry. They do indeed RULE the roost there. | |
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BK
join:2001-09-10
Wheaton, IL | funny guy. The bold is coming out in like a month with 3G | |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
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1 edit | Right, and that's what Palm has planned...something along those lines. I believe it was 2009. | |
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marigolds
Gainfully employed, finally
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO
| said by ossito16 :Palm dragged their ass in coming out with new stuff, blackberry and apple are now the rulers of what once belonged to samsung and palm. Until Blackberry can send and receive email without routing through BIS smtp and RIM, Blackberry simply is not a usable solution for certain fields. | |
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: too little too late Yeah, all that encryption and security really sucks doesn't it? 
What fields are you referring to? Left? | |
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join:2002-05-13
Saint Louis, MO
| Re: too little too late said by jester121 :Yeah, all that encryption and security really sucks doesn't it? What fields are you referring to? Left? Fire, EMS, homeland security, public safety, disaster response, disaster recovery, military, etc. I think it is bad enough that so many elected officials are using blackberry.
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL | Re: too little too late You've lost me. | |
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join:2007-09-18
Huntington Beach, CA
| said by jester121 :Yeah, all that encryption and security really sucks doesn't it? What fields are you referring to? Left? No reason they can't do ActiveSync to an Exchange server without BIS. | |
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Matt
Gone playing Dragon Age Origins
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
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| Re: too little too late said by JonHB :said by jester121 :Yeah, all that encryption and security really sucks doesn't it? What fields are you referring to? Left? No reason they can't do ActiveSync to an Exchange server without BIS. BlackBerry devices support activesync? Since when? | |
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join:2007-09-18
Huntington Beach, CA
| Re: too little too late said by Matt :said by JonHB :said by jester121 :Yeah, all that encryption and security really sucks doesn't it? What fields are you referring to? Left? No reason they can't do ActiveSync to an Exchange server without BIS. BlackBerry devices support activesync? Since when? No, they don't support ActiveSync. That's my beef with them. They should and then MANY users wouldn't need BIS. | |
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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1 edit | Re: too little too late If you didnt have the BIS server and you just synced with blackberry desktop (active sync is just a microsoft product) you would not get push email. you can sync the device with the computer but the email portion doesnt sync.
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join:2007-09-18
Huntington Beach, CA
| Re: too little too late said by jgkolt :If you didnt have the BIS server and you just synced with blackberry desktop (active sync is just a microsoft product) you would not get push email. you can sync the device with the computer but the email portion doesnt sync. Yes, for BB, you are correct. However, if you look at the Palm devices, you get wireless ActiveSync to an Exchange server. Contacts, calendar and push e-mail. You never need to sync with a desktop. If I add a contact in Outlook, it automatically appears in my Centro address book. Same with the calendar and reminders. If I'm sitting at my computer, the push mail will usually beep on my Centro before it pops up in the inbox on my desktop. Versamail and Exchange ActiveSync are a very nice combination. While I haven't tried it yet, Apple is supposed to have full (wireless) ActiveSync support for the 2.0 software.
The whole point is that you don't need BIS or any other middle-ware with this type of setup. | |
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NetAdmin
CCNA
join:2008-05-22
| said by ossito16 :Palm dragged their ass in coming out with new stuff, blackberry and apple are now the rulers of what once belonged to samsung and palm. Blackberry rules the roost of phones with $hitty user interfaces. The damn click-wheel blows. Until BB releases a stylus driven interface, like the Treos and other Windows Mobile phones, Blackberries are stuck in the land of sadly outdated phones.
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Matt
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join:2003-07-20
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| Re: too little too late said by NetAdmin :said by ossito16 :Palm dragged their ass in coming out with new stuff, blackberry and apple are now the rulers of what once belonged to samsung and palm. Blackberry rules the roost of phones with $hitty user interfaces. The damn click-wheel blows. Until BB releases a stylus driven interface, like the Treos and other Windows Mobile phones, Blackberries are stuck in the land of sadly outdated phones. I'd disagree. I HATE stylus based phones and traded mine in for a Q9c with a click wheel and couldn't be happier. Same with all our sales guys. | |
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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| blackberry is not using a wheel but a modified trackball now. Much like a touch screen can go anywhere on the screen the trackball can too. And it is easier to select items using the trackball than the touchscreen on windows mobile. I liked palm for its simplicity but they fell behind the times. The bb os is like the palm os's simplicity with much more security and beefed up a bit
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mlerner
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join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON | hmm This phone reminds me of a similar model.. oh yes the 750! Wow I almost didn't recognize it. | |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | Needs work on the thickness Old 700w is .86" thick.
New 800w is .73" thick.
Motorola Q is .47" thick.
Iphone 3G is .48" thick.
Sounds like a little but size does matter. I would never buy a phone that is thicker then my current Motorola Q. | |
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Tomek
Premium
join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY
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| How about PalmOS 6? Why can't we have that?
I like my blackberry but it so limiting and sometimes complicated to get advanced things to work.
It's small, nicely done interface, but limited amount of applications.
I have T|X and I only use it as mp3 player since blackberry took care of other tasks.
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: How about PalmOS 6? I suppose there will probably be a Treo 800p at some point?
Though I read a rumor that they're considering using the Treo 800 to launch the Linux-based successor to PalmOS, but that's not supposed to be ready until next year, so that sounds doubtful. | |
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GlobalMind
Domino Dude, POWER Systems Guy
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join:2001-10-29
Hollywood, FL
| Re: How about PalmOS 6? said by EPS :I suppose there will probably be a Treo 800p at some point? Though I read a rumor that they're considering using the Treo 800 to launch the Linux-based successor to PalmOS, but that's not supposed to be ready until next year, so that sounds doubtful. That's what I have read as well, looking to 2009 for the next gen PalmOS. By that time I should have my credit on the 755 to upgrade. Until then the 755 works well for me.
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jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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| its always "till next year" for the linux palm os. I have given up on it. I used to wait for it but you can only wait so long before you get left int he dust.
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obeythelaw
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join:2003-04-16
Bayonne, NJ | are the bold and thunder going to be available for Verizon Wireless?
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: are the bold and thunder Bold is a GSM technology device- if my understanding of the rumor mill is correct, the CDMA version is believed to be based off of the BlackBerry Javelin, whose design is a bit different (the GSM Javelin won't have 3G, but the CDMA version likely will considering RIMM's track record)
Thunder is supposed to be a Verizon and Vodafone worldwide exclusive- supposedly it will have both EV-DO and UMTS/HSDPA (though the latter may only be on European/Asian frequencies) | |
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WildGod
God Is Dead
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join:2002-01-30
NYC | Done with Palm. I am switching to an iPhone as soon as I can.
Done with headaches that come with the Treo.
It constantly freezes. Goodbye Treo. | |
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