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British Telecom's New 'Accelerator' service...
11:00AM Thursday Jun 12 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: business · telco · world · Oddities
UK consumer watchdog "Which?" recently reported that users in the UK often see a third of the speed stated in advertisements. The group found that buyers of an "up to 8 Mbps" tier actually achieved 2.7Mbps on average, and some didn't see speeds any faster than 0.09Mbps. Nobody surveyed saw speeds faster than 6.7Mbps.

Regional incumbent British Telecom is cashing in on the problem by promising users they can increase the speed of their connection by a guaranteed 500kbps, regardless of their carrier. That is, of course, if they pay a new £90 ($175) fee for BT's new "Accelerator" service. For a fee, BT will have a tech replace internal wiring and jacks if necessary, but they'll probably spend most their time using tweaks & tricks even Luddites could perform for free.

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Chris 313
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What???

People would pay 175 bucks to use a program you could get on this site for free?

Not me!

»/drtcp is all I need to get my speed up to spec and keep it there. 8.88/2200 constantly.

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Re: What???

Obviously the average DSLR user is not their target customer.
Warez_Zealot
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said by Chris 313 See Profile :

People would pay 175 bucks to use a program you could get on this site for free?

Not me!

»/drtcp is all I need to get my speed up to spec and keep it there. 8.88/2200 constantly.
Yeah, but then the 175 pounds is basically the fee for the tech to come out and do all that crap.

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said by Chris 313 See Profile :

People would pay 175 bucks to use a program you could get on this site for free?

Not me!

»/drtcp is all I need to get my speed up to spec and keep it there. 8.88/2200 constantly.
And getting a lot of FREE advice here in the BBR Tweaks forum:
»Broadband Tweaks
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Re: What???

And don't forget - if some of the techs in GB are like some of the techs here, you're giving Luddites a really bad name...
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June 12th, @11:35AM

Wow, BT surely has some nerve to pull this out of greed to dupe some poor idiots when it can be done for no charge here.

Edit: 6,700th post.

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Re: What???

said by mrchris See Profile :

Wow, BT surely has some nerve to pull this out of greed to dupe some poor idiots when it can be done for no charge here.

Edit: 6,700th post.

This kind of stuff has been around for ever.
Use to be big business selling tweak programs for dial up. They didn't do anything you can't.
emptywig
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Yeah, they must really have some nerve to charge to come out and do something that the end-user want but is not willing or able to do themselves.

Seriously, though, I'm no fan of telecoms in general, but 9 out of 10 end-users couldn't/wouldn't do this stuff themselves, so I see no problem in someone coming out to do it for them.

80% of the stuff IT techs do is stuff that the end-user could do themselves if they had the interest/knowledge/desire to do so. Fact is, most end-users don't want to sit down and page through tons of posts by geeks speaking in a language they don't understand, they just want their stuff to go faster.

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June 12th, @10:57AM

Cable & DSL have different strengths

DSL works really well in heavily urban areas where the CO's are close together and distance to customers are short. But it doesn't work well in suburban areas were distance runs are long - then speeds suffer for many of their users. And while remote terminals can be used to improve things, the distances can still be long.

Cable can be just the opposite. In heavily built up areas, cable nodes are often oversubscribed and when prime time hits speeds can slow down for everyone. But in suburban areas where nodes are often sparsely populated full speeds are often maintained all the time.

So it wasn't surprising to see the UK study numbers showing rural areas getting lower DSL speeds.
A survey earlier this month suggested people living in the country were suffering from an average speed of just 2.3Mbps, compared to 4.5Mbps in London.
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$175!!!

Holy cow I only get $99 for that!!!
emptywig
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Re: $175!!!

Yes, but we're not paying the crazy taxes that they pay over there, either.

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Re: $175!!!

But we're not getting the healthcare/subsidized pharmaceuticals either.

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said by emptywig See Profile :

Yes, but we're not paying the crazy taxes that they pay over there, either.
And we're not getting the free healthcare either!
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Re: $175!!!

said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by emptywig See Profile :

Yes, but we're not paying the crazy taxes that they pay over there, either.
And we're not getting the free healthcare either!
GOOD. Hopefully it stays that way.
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If BT can do it...

More power to them... That's no different than Geek Squad charging $129 to come to your house and add a device to your existing wireless network.

1. Turn on laptop
2. Select SSID
3. Input WEP/WPA key
4. Cash in
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Re: If BT can do it...

Plus when they are done. They try to sell you additional services and what ever.

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Pounds v Dollars

I see some people posting the price as $175, but we are talking about 175 British Pounds, or roughly $340 in US dollars. That seems like a pretty serious rip-off to me.
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Re: Pounds v Dollars

said by Mortis See Profile :

I see some people posting the price as $175, but we are talking about 175 British Pounds, or roughly $340 in US dollars. That seems like a pretty serious rip-off to me.
No. Did you even read the article you silly sally?

It says £90. Not £175. So yes, its only $175 American.

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said by alanisrox69 See Profile :

said by Mortis See Profile :

I see some people posting the price as $175, but we are talking about 175 British Pounds, or roughly $340 in US dollars. That seems like a pretty serious rip-off to me.
No. Did you even read the article you silly sally?

It says £90. Not £175. So yes, its only $175 American.

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said by alanisrox69 See Profile :

said by Mortis See Profile :

I see some people posting the price as $175, but we are talking about 175 British Pounds, or roughly $340 in US dollars. That seems like a pretty serious rip-off to me.
No. Did you even read the article you silly sally?

It says £90. Not £175. So yes, its only $175 American.

-Derek-
If you had read the article (or the same from other sources), you'd note that the fee includes work to rewire internal wiring (which BT already charge £90-ish for), or install what they call an "iplate", among other methods.

To say it's £90 for changing the RWIN is bad journalism.

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said by Mortis See Profile :

I see some people posting the price as $175, but we are talking about 175 British Pounds, or roughly $340 in US dollars. That seems like a pretty serious rip-off to me.
To convert the currency is also not accurate since people there get paid in pounds, not dollars.

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Re: Pounds v Dollars

said by R4M0N See Profile :

To convert the currency is also not accurate since people there get paid in pounds, not dollars.
exactly right. this would be closer to paying $90 for someone there then it would be to $175
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June 12th, @02:19PM

Re: Pounds v Dollars

said by nipseyrussel See Profile :

said by R4M0N See Profile :

To convert the currency is also not accurate since people there get paid in pounds, not dollars.
exactly right. this would be closer to paying $90 for someone there then it would be to $175
Or the equivalent of about 17 UK, (21 US) gallons of gas

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Give me the Job!

Let me do the job for them! I would love to get $175 for something that can be fixed in 10 minutes.

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Re: Give me the Job!

There in lies the rub... you could actively advertise the same service for half the cost or less and I wager BT will get 10-15 customers to your 1.
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June 14th, @01:45PM

RWIN

UK customers should tweak their own TCP RWIN for free instead of paying ridiculous 175 USD to let their own ISP to do adjust a RWIN
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