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'Phishing' Scams Keep Growing
9.7 new unique scams launched per day
by Karl Bode Monday 22-Mar-2004 tags: security · privacy
Although Microsoft has patched the IE exploit that made such scams easier for criminals, that doesn't mean users applied it. Phishing scams increased 60% to 282 in February, from 176 in January, reports the anti-Phishing Working Group. 9.7 new unique attacks are sent out to consumers daily, the majority of them trying to convince bank customers to hand over private information. Despite this dramatic rise in attacks, the FTC proudly proclaimed today they've managed to catch one scammer. Zachary Hill of Houston pleaded guilty to phishing scams targeting both AOL and Paypal users. Hill conned some 400 people out of $75,000 before his operation was shut down.

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Elite

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eh

Dumb users.

SuperJudge
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Re: eh

Yeah, 9.7 finding 10,000,000 unwitting users a day.

hpguru
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Re: eh

said by SuperJudge:
Yeah, 9.7 finding 10,000,000 unwitting users a day.

More like 10,000,000 witless users. Some people need a computer like a hole in the head.
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purplejello

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That's 9.7 new scams, not 9.7 new victims... Each scam can net more than just one person. And, each scam doesn't just go away, so the growth is arithmetic.

SuperJudge
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Re: eh

said by purplejello:
That's 9.7 new scams, not 9.7 new victims... Each scam can net more than just one person. And, each scam doesn't just go away, so the growth is arithmetic.

You read and/or replied to my post incorrectly, go back and read it again.
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delt4
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Zachary Hill, what a dumb nitwit. How can he do that and know that he won't get caught. Or was he so stupid that he didn't think he could get caught. I guess people like him didn't worry about that "knock" at the door that would eventually come. Out of all the people that got this type of email from this guy and others that may be out there, a large majority did not fall for it. But some did. Call them ignorant or dumb, but there are people out there that will fall for it, esp the non computer savy type.

woody7
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Unless they go to jail for a long time, a slap on the wrist just won't do ....; jmt
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Lean ppl.

people hear it enough on tv, radio, in papers etc.... that people should know never ever give out personal info via email go directly to company's site not a link some1 sent you. apply critical patches for ie if you still use it. i agree with an earlier thread that you should have a license to use the net to be basicly competent in what to do and not to do.
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insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
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What happens when they get caught?

What does someone like Zachary Hill get for doing something like this. I bet if it was life in prison and a 1 billion dollar fine, it would at least stop americans from doing it. How can anyone who blatantly sets up a crime get nothing less than life in prison?
CrazyJr

join:2003-02-27
Oakland, CA

Re: What happens when they get caught?

said by insomniac84:
What does someone like Zachary Hill get for doing something like this. I bet if it was life in prison and a 1 billion dollar fine, it would at least stop americans from doing it. How can anyone who blatantly sets up a crime get nothing less than life in prison?

Forget that, he should be castrated. That would be a perfect solution to all those that want to be stupid enough to try. Doing prison time is not justice enough. Taxpayers shouldn't foot the bill for free room and board.
Freezone

join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI

Stop calling the users dumb.

Some of these scamjs look just too real. Unless your a dslreports level user you can fall for it easy.

I am sick of getting paypal emails telling me my account has been comprimised and log in using .

It is so bad that I do not even trust my own dns too much, cause I am afraid that my machine has been hijacked by the latest ms flaw.

It is prob time for new e-mail standards all together. You can not expect end-users to have that much of a clue.
robfwb

join:2001-01-07
Mary Esther, FL

Re: Stop calling the users dumb.

People are NOT DUMB.. they just don't think before acting or they believe it's real like the other person said. New laws don't mean crap because 99 percent of these scams are from overseas (or they get "bounced" from overseas to hide the real ip) and/or they use hacked accounts (IE earthlink and aol)

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Re: Stop calling the users dumb.

I've sometimes considered getting my parents a PC so that they can e-mail to keep in touch with many in the family. With all these scams I don't dare... afterall they are very trusting and no where near as cynical as I.
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Mike
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Re: Stop calling the users dumb.

iMac.

Pointy clickly, almost 0 exploits. Who the hell wants to attack a Mac anyhow?

reub2000
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Re: Stop calling the users dumb.

said by Mike:
iMac.

Pointy clickly, almost 0 exploits. Who the hell wants to attack a Mac anyhow?

With the 1 button hockey puck? No thanks, I'll use my MX700 on my PC.

Mike
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Re: Stop calling the users dumb.

ugh, I hate the hockey puck.

I like the glass stapler.

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said by Mike:
iMac.

Pointy clickly, almost 0 exploits. Who the hell wants to attack a Mac anyhow?
Look at it this way, you can tell them that you will only offer free help if they get a Mac
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snkeyes3

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And how, exactly, will this stop phishing? If people don't check the address bar, they are just as likely to wind up at www.paypai.com/phishing/index.html as a windows user.
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said by Freezone:
It is prob time for new e-mail standards all together. You can not expect end-users to have that much of a clue.
How would altering the email standards of the internet, standards that have worked great for 30 odd years, cure this problem ?
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Re: Stop calling the users dumb.

said by bmn:
How would altering the email standards of the internet, standards that have worked great for 30 odd years, cure this problem ?
The scam is as old as time itself, email is just a new means of engaging it. Even if you were to somehow change email, scammers would still find another way of doing it.
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Varangian

join:2002-12-08
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There's one born every minute

As Charleton Heston said in a film noir long ago.."they should be glad the lesson was so cheap"
Ill bet they dont just cough up the details next time.

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1 edit

Yet another example found in this week's Langalist

This phishing scam has been going around a while too. You
get an email claiming your credit card has been charged for
the purchase of a new PC (in this case a laptop), but that
there's been a delay in the order processing. The natural
reaction is to say "wait, I never ordered that," and rush
online to cancel the order. That's when the phish occurs.
The site that is linked to in the email is almost always a
company you've never heard of, and they ask for personal
information. The sole purpose of the scam is to get your
credit card number.

»langa.com/current.htm#5
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Wall9
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Re: Yet another example found in this week's Langalist

That laptop sounded sweet. Can I have the URL?
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reub2000
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How do you have 9.7 scams?

How can you have 9.7 scams? Maybe there where 10, and one was 70% a scam, and 30% truthful?

tvh2k

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LOL...MOD PARENT UP +5 FUNNY

Oh wait wrong site :-P
lefty1

join:2002-10-25
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New scams

As someone who works in the business, I can attest to the fact that most people don't want to learn anything about their computer or maintaining it. They get a computer with Norton anti-virus and never update it. Firewalls confuse them because they don't know whether to allow something or disallow it (somewhat understandable), so they turn it off or uninstall it. You would not believe how many people don't even know what a Microsoft update is, and not many of those ever take the time to install them. They buy the computer for their kids or their porn (or both). So in a sense, they do bear some of the responsibility for their own dilemma.

I still believe that,where possible, vigorous prosecution of phishers would help some, but I'm starting to give some serious consideration to the possibility that people should have to get a license to surf the internet. It'll never happen, but it should.

pnh102
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said by lefty1:
As someone who works in the business, I can attest to the fact that most people don't want to learn anything about their computer or maintaining it.
Anyone with that attitude shouldn't be surprised when their machine gets hacked and/or they fall for these scams. Its no different than buying a car and not bothering to maintain it and expecting it to continue running.
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SuperJudge
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said by lefty1:
I'm starting to give some serious consideration to the possibility that people should have to get a license to surf the internet. It'll never happen, but it should.

I've been in the discussions before, and I honestly agree there should be some formal training for anybody who's wanting to get on the internet if they haven't been on it during the 5 years previous. For their own safety.
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tacoma
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Treat this like mail fraud!

If they would just shift existing laws to cover emails, this would all end rather quickly. All they have to do is use the current mail fraud laws and just throw an E in front of it. Why do you think you don't get these types of scams in your snail mail?

MarkH
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Dumb? Maybe; more likely wanting convinience

I keep seeing all the comments slagging off the n00bs for not running updates etc, yeah it's pretty dumb, but lets face it, the avg Joe doesn't want to know about updates etc; he wants another piece of consumer electronics that works out of the box, and carries on working the same way for as long as he has it. He doesn't have to update the firmware on his vcr/dvd player to watch the latest blockbuster hit, and expects a PC to be the same. And to be fair, it's often the B/S of the guys who sell it to him that makes him think this is the case.

Maybe if the vendors turned on the update routines so they work automatically it would be easier for J Public, I know it's not going to educate him, but neither is any amount of calling him dumb. He doesn't want to learn about PC's, he wants a consumer electronics appliance.
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