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story category Phorm May Not Be Out Of The Woods Yet
Receives Nebuad-like scorn from European Commission
(old news - 08:33AM Tuesday Apr 14 2009)
tags: business · privacy · world
While the UK government may be perfectly happy with Phorm, believing that the behavioral ad system doesn't violate privacy, the European Commission isn't so sure. According to the BBC, the European Commission has started legal action against Britain over Phorm, claiming the technology intercepted user data without consent and failed to keep people's online details confidential. "We have been following the Phorm case for some time and have concluded that there are problems in the way the UK has implemented parts of the EU rules on the confidentiality of communications," said EU's Telecoms Commissioner Viviane Reding.

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AlexNYC

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Good Call.

Good call, finally a good decision out of the EC.
permalink · 2009-04-14 11:44:48 · Reply to this

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Re: Good Call.

said by AlexNYC See Profile :

Good call, finally a good decision out of the EC.
Phorm critics want Phorm to not only get permission of all the ISP's customers(Which they are now doing after the secret trial ended), but also EVERY web site that these customers can go to. That is clearly impossible and is just a way to kill the company.

The EU's Telecoms Commissioner Viviane Reding is also on a power trip and has been for a long time. She is a virtual dictator of EU telecomm policy with almost no one to stop her. This is what happens when a country like the UK gives up its national sovereignty to a larger governmental group.
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Ms Reding said Britain needed to to change its national laws to ensure there were proper sanctions to enforce EU confidentiality rules.

Unless Britain complies, Ms Reding has the power to issue a final warning before taking the country to the 27-nation EU's top court, the European Court of Justice. If it rules in favour of the European Commission, the court can force Britain to change its laws.
And there goes democracy for UK's citizens.
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permalink · 2009-04-14 17:20:29 · Print · Reply to this

AlexNYC

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Re: Good Call.

I see your point and it can be compared to a lesser degree with the way the useless UN is trying to dictate domestic policies to the US, BUT I'm still not going to shed any tears for Phorm. They are nothing more than spamers attempting to collect data they have no right to collect in the first place. The permissions you speak of is only to advertise to the customers that agree, however everyone's data will be collected. So I have a basic problem with collecting my personal browsing data EVEN IF I do not get any advertisements.
permalink · 2009-04-14 17:37:41 · Print · Reply to this

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 Actually UK citizens vote their own Members of European Parliament in and have a rotating presidency and other important roles. The UK actually has a very privileged position within the EU. I don't know why the EU made so many concessions to them in the first place.
permalink · 2009-04-15 00:49:01 · Reply to this

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What was the UK thinking?

I'm curious as to why with all the substantial data that's freely available that flat out says "Phorm is bad" and logically & rationally spells out WHY, why would the UK blindly and stupidly insist that there's nothing wrong with it?

Unless the makers of Phorm needed a country to "have their back" and give them an air of legitimacy to support their idiotic claims and there is corruption involved in Parliment, I just cant find a reason why ANY sane government would support the travesty that is Phorm in any way....

???
permalink · 2009-04-14 15:51:51 · Print · Reply to this

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Re: What was the UK thinking?

Amazon says it will not allow Phorm to scan its web pages. I don't think many web sites will want to incur the wrath of visitors by allowing Phorm to scan their pages (except for BT and Virgin who are hell bent on adopting the system to generate additional revenue). I hope the EU forces the UK to change its laws and view Phorm as illegal. The EU should prosecute BT for conducting those secret trials on users.
permalink · 2009-04-15 19:32:02 · Reply to this
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