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join:2001-10-03
| Dont bother getting the Doom III alpha they call it an alpha because its chunky like rocks, even with a ti4200 128mb ddr. i know because i, uh, saw my friend play it on his computer.
and the load times are waaaay long. but the graphics are awesome, if they fix the bugs ill be sure to buy the game when it comes out. see advance marketing in action! | |
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join:2000-12-29
Olmsted Falls, OH
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DaSneaky1D
one wall to block them all
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join:2001-03-29
The Lou
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| Re: Dont bother getting the Doom III alpha I don't know what you are talking about. I mean, it should not have been released on the net if it was too buggy for people to even play it! Gosh, c'mon! This game is obviously of inferior quality and makes me not even want to buy it when the final version is officially released for sale.
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join:2000-11-19
Sacramento, CA | Re: Dont bother getting the Doom III alpha Makes sense. If its an alpha, theres still an ass-load of debugging code in there that will not be in the final release. Gotta have that extra room for it. | |
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Number 3 Forever
join:2002-06-06
NASCAR
| Damn straight dude. Start with a good Antec case, a decent MB, The best high speed DDR Ram ( I recommend Cruical ) that you can afford, A good AMD processor, a killer video card ( ti 4600 is awesome ) and a decent eide 7200 hd. You can add all the other stuff later.
Forget DOOM, Unreal 3 ROCKS!
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Seawolf
join:2001-11-27
Milton, FL
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| Re: Dont bother getting the Doom III alpha naaa a real gaming rig, start with a nice smooth antec 1080AMG or 1040B II, add a true intel motherboard built with either intel i845PE or i850E chipsets, 1gig+ ram ddr333/400(look up on samsung, thats who corsair uses for their XML overclockers ram, or crucial/micron)or use rdram, p4 2.4-3.06, nice WD caviar SE 7200rpm 8mb buffer HDD, a gainward gf4 ti4200-ti4600 Golden Sample, and add a nice 850+cfm squirrel cage with a K&N 1000+cfm rated filter blowing over the processor and vent the case with some fat 120mm 150+cfm exhaust fans running your favorite distro of linux/bsd/solaris/unix or whatever you prefer......you can get some real performance outta that beast | |
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join:2002-03-09
Fleming, CO
| People...the hardware is nice... but please remember one thing.. if you software suxs a$$ then the hardware suxs also..
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
| said by NewLife  :
Why is it that when M$ releases an alpha everyone wants it. They want to be the first to see the new Microshit product.
The funny thing about it is Microsoft charges people for that privilege. No free alpha or beta tests on anything other than their games.
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join:2002-01-20
Minneapolis, MN
| said by grindkore :
Bugs? This is an EARLY ALPHA version a.k.a work in progress. I can't believe it, some people already bitching because this leaked alpha version does not work like they expect.
[text was edited by author 2002-11-12 15:09:43]
Easy killer. Nobody was bitching about anything. Don't take criticism of an alpha version of a game as a threat to your manhood.
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Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
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join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA
| Re: Dont bother getting the Doom III alpha said by BIGHUSKER :
said by grindkore :
Bugs? This is an EARLY ALPHA version a.k.a work in progress. I can't believe it, some people already bitching because this leaked alpha version does not work like they expect.
[text was edited by author 2002-11-12 15:09:43]
Easy killer. Nobody was bitching about anything. Don't take criticism of an alpha version of a game as a threat to your manhood. [text was edited by author 2002-11-12 15:46:12]
Talk about easy killer. The guy was bitching about the performance of an Alpha...and not any Alpha...the title that will test hardware that hasn't even been released yet. Anyone who would criticise an alpha on any level is a total tard.
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join:2000-12-29
Olmsted Falls, OH | Re: Dont bother getting the Doom III alpha I was referring to general mindset of people who tried alpha version, just checkout some IRC chat rooms or usenet posts. | |
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join:2002-11-15
Canyon Country, CA
|  Re: Dont bother getting the Doom III alpha
To those who complain about it:
1. How much did you pay for it?
2. And you expect it to work?
If you took your car to a mechanic and didn't pay him for his work, would you expect your car to work too?
If you expect someone else to work for free, then you must be willing to work for free too...
BTW, I have plenty of yard work to do at my house so come on over. We'll see how much work you'll actually do for free... | |
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Notorious Dog
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join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA
| Yep...some people are truly retarded. For me the Alpha ran just fine. Sure...my frame rates dropped into the single digits when face to face with zombies but the lighting engine and game in general just gave us a taste of the coolness that is ID. DOOMIII rocks.
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| IcyFire
Flammable Ice
join:2001-05-30
Somewhere | What the hell, It's alpha?! screw that I'll buy the retail version when it comes out | |
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| dirvish
join:2002-11-11
Chico, CA
| The alpha is only the first few levels. That combined with the fact that it reportedly runs poorly on anything less than a hardcore gaming machine will probably disuade me from bothering. I'll just wait until the real version comes out and pirate that, and stick with Counter Strike for now.
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It's Someone Else's Job
join:2000-10-20
Raymore, MO | Wow it's the best game I ever played! It should get best game of 2002!!!
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technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA
| Doom 3 is sloooow I tried both Alpha & Beta and their load times were rediculus, but thats why they are are still in beta's. But your right the graphics were absolutly breath taking, and I was trying on a 4400, and it killed the card. I wonder what the requirements are going to be next year for it? ATI Radeon 9700 Pro? Geez.. It takes like 10 minutes to load everything, basically long enough to go to the kitchen, get a drink, and a snack, and do a short bathroom break, and than move back to the pc. =) | |
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join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS
| Re: Doom 3 is sloooow The load times are slow and the graphics "kill" your vid card because the game isn't finished yet. It hasn't even been optimized for play yet. What did you expect? The game to be perfect? They might even remove a portion or two before it's ready for distribution. In some of the mags they even said it would run on a geforce 4 and that is with everything turned on. ATI Radeon 9700 Pro? Hell, even NFS:HS2 would run like crap on that card. LOL | |
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Corona, CA | Re: Doom 3 is sloooow Duh...what did you expect...the game isn't due for release for almost 6 months. | |
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join:2001-09-13
Carol Stream, IL | "I tried both Alpha & Beta" ????? what kind of idiot are you anyway? | |
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Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
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join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA
| said by technick :
I tried both Alpha & Beta
There is no beta. Save your ficticious works for Readers Digest and stick with the truth.
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join:2001-09-13
Carol Stream, IL | Re: Doom 3 is sloooow Hey dog I hope you were not talking about me? I was quoting some other post. | |
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Count Hogula$
Notorious Dog
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join:2002-06-19
Corona, CA
| Re: Doom 3 is sloooow Reread the post...SAID BY TECHNICK
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emcglynn
join:2000-11-05
Pelham, NH
| Underground Marketing I half suspected it WAS a marketing ploy. A great way for a huge number of people to be sneaky and see your great new game. This people feel like they are being clever and "in" on the internet thing, plus they get their demo out.
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News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
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| Re: Underground Marketing Game shops like to use screenshots and overly generous previewers to create hype....not a leaked incomplete version that (as indicated above) gives players an incorrect gauge of the quality they can expect.....
I think I read it was someone at ATI who leaked it originally..... | |
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join:2000-07-21
Tulsa, OK | Re: Underground Marketing Yes, ATI did leak it.
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DaveNJ
No Fear
join:1999-09-01
New Jersey | I think this is all a ploy too, lets leak out a game, so people can see how cool it is. Then play bad guy, so you can buy the working version.
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join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | Re: Underground Marketing Ironically, most of the stuff that ends up on the net before official releases is leaked by insiders at the movie, music, and game companies. They have no one to blame but themselves. | |
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join:2002-11-08
Kansas City, MO
clubs: | Re: Underground Marketing Exactly - how else do you explain the fact that ISOs of many big budget games are posted on the net immediately after (or before) they've gone gold. | |
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join:2002-10-02
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
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join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
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| Is it legal? Nope. I am not as worried about the movie industry because DVD is reasonably priced and sells very well. If someone wants to use a camcorder on a first run movie, people will download. However, it will be trashed as soon as the DVD comes out for most audiophiles and videophiles.
I understand the fustration of the studios, software companies, bands, and record companies. The internet is becoming a breeding ground for illegal activity and it is almost impossible to regulate. P2P may be the killer app broadband was waiting for. The thing that I wonder is will it still be a killer app when 90% of what it is being used for is illegal? Full versions of software, cracks, full movies, and music can all be downloaded with a quick click of the mouse.
It is justified by the people doing the downloading with a bunch of reasons...
"(insert company name) is greedy. Therefore, it is ok for me to download and share this stuff."
"(insert company name) meant for this stuff to get out. It was a marketing ploy! It is legal for me to download it."
"(insert company name) has crap security. They have no one to blame but themselves."
Sorry, but those excuses don't take away from the issue that these things are illegal. If you are going to take part in illegal activities, then don't try to justify it.
I don't know what the future holds for the internet or for P2P. No one knows for sure. Right now, the internet userbase has a stranglehold. The government is powerless to stop it. When one P2P software package gets shut down, two more pop up to replace it.
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shray
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Edison, NJ | heh i like when stuff gets released earky | |
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hhawkman
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join:2001-02-08
Port Hueneme, CA
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| Piracy Schmiracy How soon people forget.
Remember when SpiderMan first came around to theatres? It was all over the net. The quality varied from watchable, to unwatchable. For months afterward, many sources were flooded with copies. Did this kill theatrical sales? No. It grossed over $200 Million in it's first 2 weeks in theatres.
Fast Forward to a couple of weeks ago when it was released on DVD. 1st weekend sales were on the order of 11 million copies sold, with an estimated revenue of almost $200 million. Add that to the $200 Million made in theatres the first 2 weekends, and you get close to a half billion dollars for a movie that cost $31 million dollars to make.
Where is the so-called "piracy" ruining the industry?
Harry Potter II was released to the internet 2 days ago, and the movie doesn't even release theatrically for another 3 days. Just watch, I'm willing to bet that the 1st weekend theatrical sales break records.
Why? Probably because it's a good movie. The only way I see the "piracy" hurting any movie is if it's a lame movie to begin with. People preview it, and word of mouth fills the theatres..... or not....Who want's to make a prediction as to how soon you can get "Scooby Do" for under $9.95 from the bargain bin? (or is it already there?)
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
| Re: Piracy Schmiracy said by hhawkman :
How soon people forget.
The only way I see the "piracy" hurting any movie is if it's a lame movie to begin with. People preview it, and word of mouth fills the theatres..... or not....Who want's to make a prediction as to how soon you can get "Scooby Do" for under $9.95 from the bargain bin? (or is it already there?)
Exactly. I think hollywood's biggest fear is people will see ahead of time that some of their big budget flicks just stink. Only people didn't pay $10 a pop to find out. | |
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join:2002-10-20
Aliso Viejo, CA | Re: Piracy Schmiracy I couldn't agree more to this. If I enjoy watching a movie that I viewed on the internet, I am going to buy it on DVD just for the better quality. I see no point into gambling with your money to see if a movie will be worth it or not! | |
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moof moof
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join:2002-07-05
Austin, TX
| Don't categorize P2P e-pinions That's exactly right. I also agree that P2P is past the "Is it legal?" phase, and moving on to it's next, bigger scale, piracy controversy. Despite the huge number of complaints from the MPAA, movies still have one of the biggest profit rates in the country. What I love about P2P is it gives people a chance at previewing a shit quality movie a week before its release before they go out and blow 10 bucks to see the real deal. How I see it is, P2P makes the film and music industry produce better media and gives them less of a chance to screw the under-rated consumer. P2P gives the people power, and as long as it exists, organizations like the MPAA and RIAA are gonna be there to try and take it away.
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join:2002-10-20
Aliso Viejo, CA | Re: Don't categorize P2P e-pinions Why don't these companies stop fighting something that they can't control. What they should do is try and capitalize on it an provide their own P2P servers for a reasonable monthly cost. | |
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Hiroshima
join:2002-03-08
Longview, TX
| Not Intendeded.... The doom III alpha was not intended to be released to the public. So when you download it and it doesn't work like you want it to stfu because you're not suppose to have it in the first place. And once again...it is an alpha, before beta. The game isn't coming out for another year for a reason.... | |
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| c0mmander
join:2001-10-03
| Re: Not Intendeded.... exactly, im saying its chunky because its still in alpha stage
that would be unacceptable for a beta though. load times are HUGE, u'll need a geforce 5 or 6. or radeon 10k
nonetheless most "illegally released" items are inside jobs, whether it be game alphas, movies, mp3's, they typically come from the inside since we the public have no access to them.
*releasing* a game alpha will not hurt game sales at all, game piracy has been effectively halted thanks to the unique serial Key that becomes deactivated should two people try to play online at the same time.
meanwhile that CD copy protection stuff they put on games is completely useless, it wastes electricity by having to load at the beginning from CD and plus there are CD cracks anyway. legitimate users are punished for buying the actual product. | |
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death shroud
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| valve piracy sadly valve has also added to bs by doing this.
now dod, cs, tfc, half life online now default to secure (aka. you cheat all secure servers ban you for 24 hours. you get caught with a bad key your screwed }or you could get a cdkey gen. don know if it would check out though{)
so what it comes to you lose your online game with anymod if your cdkey is in use because if you watch the console it does contact won to authenticate. its almost got me ready to buy games from now on. i still say a pirated version of xp is fine though. i mean who can afford the 200 - 400 doller os anyway. sad but true. i know its wrong i dont dispute that but i dont care. | |
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soulburner
join:2002-09-23
Pahrump, NV
| My only question is... Why can't I find episodes of season 2 of 24 for download anywhere (P2P networks... IRC isn't my favorite way to go about things)? My episode 2 was butchered by election results. I will buy the DVD boxed set when it comes out... but waiting isn't something that I enjoy very much | |
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b1gdr3
I Blame Your Mother
join:2001-07-28
Pittsburgh, PA | review uTi release has gotta be dv, looks/sounds awesome....although I can't stand this genre...i do have to say the four cd dvdrip of lord of the rings is kinda hot tho=) | |
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join:2000-09-03
Springville, IA
| said by b1gdr3 :
uTi release has gotta be dv, looks/sounds awesome....although I can't stand this genre...i do have to say the four cd dvdrip of lord of the rings is kinda hot tho=)
What's the point? I got my LOTR DVD for free for looking at a Kia. That disk had a $5 rebate included for the extended edition. I just got that for $28 shipped. Included a cool T-shirt, and a free ticket to the Two Towers. So $28 - $5 rebate - $10 Tshirt - $8 movie ticket. So basically $5 for 6 DVDs of LOTR goodness.
The only thing that sux, is that it looks and sounds so good, it makes me want to buy a progressive scan dvd and monitor, ditch my old prologic reciever, and get a beefy 6.1 receiver with a nice, fat subwoofer. | |
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join:2000-10-24
Knoxville, TN
| wow It's amazing how angry you all are. Commander didn't say anything really bad about the game, except that once its out of crappy alpha, he will buy it, and you all jump all over him and each other like people are saying stuff about your mom. gg.
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join:2002-11-04
Brooklyn, NY | ugh i have alpha 7.3 it was released this monday suckers | |
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join:2001-09-13
Carol Stream, IL | Re: ugh yeah sure it was. | |
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