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kudos:1 | Will someone... plz, for the love of god, think of the children.  | |
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It's for the good of all.
Think of the children.
It's in your best interest.
The issue is usually something that is going to end up screwing you "literally" in one way or another. The minute you hear one of those said, it's a red flag to look at that issue a LOT more closely before hopping on the stupidity bandwagon. | |
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NYC Metro | Re: Will someone... said by jc100:Any time you hear these phrases: It's for the good of all. Think of the children. It's in your best interest. The issue is usually something that is going to end up screwing you "literally" in one way or another. The minute you hear one of those said, it's a red flag to look at that issue a LOT more closely before hopping on the stupidity bandwagon. Exactly... The Government always used "It's for the children's protection" when they want to make our lives harder / remove some of our rights. Just a bunch of BS... And don't tell me that porn isn't good for teenaged guys... What's better? The hand or a teenage girls poonani?
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join:2000-05-11 | Re: Will someone... Well, obviously the poonani wins hands-down. 
He does have a point though. We do not hold Miller Brewing responsible if some 15 year old gets his mitts on a MGD. That happens due to lax enforcement at the store, or through some intermediary who breaks the law by supplying it or making it available.
The search engines make lots of money through those porn searches driving eyeballs to their sites. It is at least partially their responsibility to police this. The real question is, however, what "this" is. As far as I know it is not illegal for a minor to look at sexually explicit content.
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1 edit | Re: Will someone... said by RadioDoc:Well, obviously the poonani wins hands-down. He does have a point though. We do not hold Miller Brewing responsible if some 15 year old gets his mitts on a MGD. That happens due to lax enforcement at the store, or through some intermediary who breaks the law by supplying it or making it available. The search engines make lots of money through those porn searches driving eyeballs to their sites. It is at least partially their responsibility to police this. The real question is, however, what "this" is. As far as I know it is not illegal for a minor to look at sexually explicit content. In some areas it's actually illegal for someone under a certain age (could be whatever age) to view pornography... Probably never enforced though, unless the cops want to make a big deal out of it... Most places also obviously have laws against providing pornography to minors. But seriously... Pornography or a lot of horny teenagers who will be fathers? Which is better?
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kudos:1 | In some areas, porn is illegal regardless of age. US Supreme Court left it upto "communities" (read juries) to decide what is "obscene". | |
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NYC Metro | Re: Will someone... said by patcat88:In some areas, porn is illegal regardless of age. US Supreme Court left it upto "communities" (read juries) to decide what is "obscene". That'll be the day when the Government tells me I can't' view porn. LOL.
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By the way, I am a "teenaged guy." | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Will someone... said by AnonymousPerson :
Pornography and masturbation are both damaging to the way that people view and treat others.
By the way, I am a "teenaged guy."
LOL, proof??
Pornography does not damage anything when it comes to how people treat one another.
must be a bible thumper, no?
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kudos:2 | said by jc100:The issue is usually something that is going to end up screwing you "literally" in one way or another. The minute you hear one of those said, it's a red flag to look at that issue a LOT more closely before hopping on the stupidity bandwagon. If someone from Vivid is going to end up screwing me, all I hope is that they get the gender correct...
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Troy, NY | I can't help but think of the children. They're always screaming for Mommy or Daddy to buy them something, I can't manage to think of anything else with all that noise. 
When are we going to get around to passing a law that says parents have to parent their children?
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| Re: Will someone... Apparently you have not been around long enough. Many parents gave up parenting because they couldn't stand the compition from their offspring (Like minds) and the Government has tried invoking many Laws to take over parenting, hense the demiss of the Free state.
As for the topic, slightly different from the usual; Karl has been digging around, eh.
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Will someone... Everytime you don't impregnate a woman, a baby dies. | |
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kudos:14 |  Passing the blame
It is completely and entirely the responsibility of the parents/guardians, or owners of whoever provides said access to computers (e.g. a library in the case of public Internet access).
I'm growing really tired of other Americans passing responsibility of such things onto either other people or commercial companies. At what point did this become the norm?
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Passing the blame said by koitsu:I'm growing really tired of other Americans passing responsibility of such things onto either other people or commercial companies. At what point did this become the norm? 1933.
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kudos:4 |  Porn King attempting pre-emptive strike against tougher laws
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don't porn sites already use an age verification system to screen their sites? Most aren't effective because you can just lie, but isn't that screen supposed to give them some cover from liability? | |
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kudos:1 | Hypocrites This is like the tobacco companies telling kids not to smoke, but at the same time pushing their product to them, bunch of hypocrites. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Hypocrites said by RR Conductor:This is like the tobacco companies telling kids not to smoke, but at the same time pushing their product to them, bunch of hypocrites. Yeah, porn is a big kid killer just like smokes 
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Alliance, OH | Re: Think of the boobies Yes, I agree with this statement, fake boobs are disgusting. I'd take smaller real ones any day. | |
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Camden, TN | Re: Hypocrites said by RR Conductor:This is like the tobacco companies telling kids not to smoke, but at the same time pushing their product to them, bunch of hypocrites. No one is trying to get kids ot watch porn. Get off of it. Besides the fact that it's wrong, kids DO NOT HAVE CREDIT CARDS to purchase memberships. And even if a kid stole daddy's card and did buy a membership it would found out and then charged back then the credit card company would not only take back the money from the porn company but also impose a fee. So it's not even remotely financially viable to sell to kids even if they wanted to. jeez learn a thing or 2 before spouting off. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Hypocrites said by BF69:said by RR Conductor:This is like the tobacco companies telling kids not to smoke, but at the same time pushing their product to them, bunch of hypocrites. No one is trying to get kids ot watch porn. Get off of it. Besides the fact that it's wrong, kids DO NOT HAVE CREDIT CARDS to purchase memberships. And even if a kid stole daddy's card and did buy a membership it would found out and then charged back then the credit card company would not only take back the money from the porn company but also impose a fee. So it's not even remotely financially viable to sell to kids even if they wanted to. jeez learn a thing or 2 before spouting off. My children will never pay for porn. I will institute better money management techniques for them. Guess what shitloads of people do not pay for it.
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| | | | said by BF69:said by RR Conductor:This is like the tobacco companies telling kids not to smoke, but at the same time pushing their product to them, bunch of hypocrites. No one is trying to get kids ot watch porn. Get off of it. Besides the fact that it's wrong, kids DO NOT HAVE CREDIT CARDS to purchase memberships. And even if a kid stole daddy's card and did buy a membership it would found out and then charged back then the credit card company would not only take back the money from the porn company but also impose a fee. So it's not even remotely financially viable to sell to kids even if they wanted to. jeez learn a thing or 2 before spouting off. I wonder just how true (kids not having credit cards) that is anymore? I imagine if kids these days have cell phones, more than a few of them probably have a credit card. And due to the stigma that we put around anything to do with Sex, I doubt you could tell from the credit card bill what was a porn site. I think the biggest problem is the kids having the computers in their own rooms. Back when I was a kid (like in the 80s) and all we had was a Commodore 64 and a green screen monitor and the computer was visible from the living room. Now my wife (who is a kindergarten teacher in the Lutheran school system and what those kids are aware of is absolutely shocking) and I walk into our friends homes and every kid has their own computer. My brother and I had to share and it was where my parents could watch what we were doing. So I would definitely agree a lot of this is non-existent parenting.
But in the physical world, there are a lot of safeguards to keep this kind of material out of the hands of minors...I think you need to at least realize that we have the conversation of about what could possibly be done rather than scream GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION at just the mere mention of it. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Hypocrites said by jmallory:I think the biggest problem is the kids having the computers in their own rooms. Back when I was a kid (like in the 80s) and all we had was a Commodore 64 and a green screen monitor and the computer was visible from the living room. Now my wife (who is a kindergarten teacher in the Lutheran school system and what those kids are aware of is absolutely shocking) and I walk into our friends homes and every kid has their own computer. And then they learn what a webcam chatroom is. | |
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2 edits | said by BF69:said by RR Conductor:This is like the tobacco companies telling kids not to smoke, but at the same time pushing their product to them, bunch of hypocrites. No one is trying to get kids ot watch porn. Get off of it. Besides the fact that it's wrong, kids DO NOT HAVE CREDIT CARDS to purchase memberships. And even if a kid stole daddy's card and did buy a membership it would found out and then charged back then the credit card company would not only take back the money from the porn company but also impose a fee. So it's not even remotely financially viable to sell to kids even if they wanted to. jeez learn a thing or 2 before spouting off. No credit card needed. There was a posting here sometime in the past that listed porn sites that needed no money, no credit card, and no age verification other than saying you were old enough. These sites then also link to pay for porn sites. So your claim is wrong and RR Conductor is right.
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| Re: Hypocrites said by Romney2012:There was a posting here sometime in the past that listed porn sites that needed no money, no credit card, and no age verification other than saying you were old enough. *shrugs* For free sites, I wouldn't know how else to verify ages.
Credit card? Sure, but in this day and age, many won't give out their CC# unless they intend to make a purchase. (myself included)
If someone's come out with a means for age verification that doesn't require internet users to relinquish more sensitive information of their own, then please, I'd love to hear it. | |
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kudos:12 | said by BF69:said by RR Conductor:This is like the tobacco companies telling kids not to smoke, but at the same time pushing their product to them, bunch of hypocrites. No one is trying to get kids ot watch porn. Get off of it. Besides the fact that it's wrong, kids DO NOT HAVE CREDIT CARDS to purchase memberships. And even if a kid stole daddy's card and did buy a membership it would found out and then charged back then the credit card company would not only take back the money from the porn company but also impose a fee. So it's not even remotely financially viable to sell to kids even if they wanted to. jeez learn a thing or 2 before spouting off. My 13 year old has a credit card that she uses for her allowance. It's very convenient actually and it's easy for me to track what exactly she is spending her money on. | |
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Porn is birth control. | |
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1 edit | The REAL story is... And the next thing you'll hear is how it's pirated porn on p2p (and other illegal distribution methods) getting into kids hands unchecked. This may be true but I'm sure the kids are what he's worried about. | |
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TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | LOL He wants them to stop "purchasing" pornography? How many adults purchase porno? Let alone kids...
Why bother when there is a bunch of free shit and warez out there..
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Boxborough, MA | Re: LOL It's called, Mommy and Daddy take your head out of your asses and raise your child like a responsible (religious nutjobs need not apply) sane adult in the 21st century.
Christ is it that hard? | |
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| | TzaleProud Libertarian ConservativePremium
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NYC Metro | Re: LOL said by jarablue:It's called, Mommy and Daddy take your head out of your asses and raise your child like a responsible (religious nutjobs need not apply) sane adult in the 21st century. Christ is it that hard? My views exactly. We need to have parents parenting their children, not the frigging Government!
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kudos:1 | said by centsofhumor:Porn just doesnt pop up on searches. You have to intentionally search for it. I know Google uses Safe Search ON by default. When cookies or whatever are cleaned out you have to reset it back to OFF you want it. | |
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New Albany, IN | :| When wages are so low both parents have to work leaving the kid(s) all alone, porn or drugs will happen. | |
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Christ is it that hard?
My views exactly. We need to have parents parenting their children, not the frigging Government!
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Yes Tzale!
You nailed it, the parents are the responsible ones here. My computer has a feature that lets me control what kind of sites it can go to. The parent controls are there for a reason. People just need to "be responsible and set the example not be the example" | |
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kudos:1 | Re: for the kids said by DAffy duck :
It's called, Mommy and Daddy take your head out of your asses and raise your child like a responsible (religious nutjobs need not apply) sane adult in the 21st century.
Christ is it that hard?
My views exactly. We need to have parents parenting their children, not the frigging Government!
-Tzale
Yes Tzale!
You nailed it, the parents are the responsible ones here. My computer has a feature that lets me control what kind of sites it can go to. The parent controls are there for a reason. People just need to "be responsible and set the example not be the example"
Long long ago they had addressable cable boxes, which included a "Parental Lock Code" feature. Purpose was to lock the kids out of certain cable channels, or lock them out altogether.
SURPRISE: Noone freaking used that feature. They whined and moaned for the US goverment to do something. VIOLA!! Uncle Same demanded all tv makers to install the "V-Chip"!! Supposedly for "The good of the children".
SURPRISE Part 2!! Parents still flat out never set it up.
Most all here know there are software and tips to protect what comes across the internet to the computer. But it doesn't do any good if the parents don't install/use/update it all. But then the kids know more about computers than the parents. Most of the time being the parents won't take the time to understand the computers their kids are using.
Let's not even talk about MySpace.......
There were others before MySpace. Just not as fancy.
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kudos:1 | Re: for the kids Even the video game console that your kid trains on to be an "American Hero killing _________" or for the next Columbine, it can do PORN!!!! DSL Reports has covered it.
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| Parents? Parents should be the ones who monitor what their kid does on the computer; not an ISP. We all know that if ISP's have to take on this extra effort the cost will be passed to the consumer.
And for those that say parents sometimes work leaving their kids at home alone there is a simple answer... lock down the PC using software or simply unplug and take the modem with you. It's rather simple - not excuse for parents being lazy about protecting their kids online.
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Whatta buncha shit.
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kudos:1 | Re: Looking at boobies will make you go blind said by justmy2cents :
The simplest way would be to BAN PORN altogether.I vote for that
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when your brain need it. u going to get it!
just like when u hungry, u going to get someting to eat!
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| Yeah, what he meant to say was "think of the children...I'm thinking of your daughter - send her down to me to audition when she turns 18"
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To say that parents should not be allowed help by programmers and large companies that are smarter in computer usage, then why even have filtering software, hey parents should program their own and stop blaming everyone else for why their kids have access to this stuff, get real already!
As for teenage boys getting teenage girls pregnant, well hey where I live the school, hence the government, teaches safe sex in school. So do you think they shouldn't? Or how about AIDS awareness, you mean kids should only know what their parents know, who yes, are busy working and not up on all the changes of society that their kids are a part of. So I guess condoms are the real preventer's of pregnancy and STD's
And what about public computers, like libraries run by governments, do you mean they should stop being responsible, since parents are the only ones who should be, get real again!
I use firefox, and the majority of you probably use Internet Explorer and if not for those browsers filtering sites themselves, we'd still be getting porn pop-ups at most non-governments sites like the majority of us were getting a few years back, no matter if you were on a porn site or not. So yes, for my own sanity I am glad that it is not just the parents responsibility. | |
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| Gaps I mean come on people, when will you be able to stop and watch your own damn children. Pedofiles that evade this round will be smarter the next, and they will always be watching for a hole in your plan. If parents would watch and raise their children better we wouldn't have this problem. If you pay attention you'll notice that kids are giving birth to kids, and it's this inexperience that's allowing this crap to thrive. We will NEVER obliterate it entirely, and you must hold this mindset, or you have become complacent. If you think of it this way we are more simmilar to rats or frogs than you think, when we come of age we breed, we want to breed because of changes in the body, if a child does not know what to do about those chemical changes they simply give in to sexual pressure. Over the course of a few generations we have breed millions of these inexperienced "frog people". The worse the ratio gets the harder it will be to combat.
Come on people get your life straight, for the sake of humanity!!!
This does not apply to everybody. Their are people who raise their children with appropriate experience themselves. It is these families who truly need to be praised for doing their part. Their children see this material for what it is.
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