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Porn Copyright Troll Sues Verizon For Standing Up to Them
Claims Verizon's Simply Profiting From Piracy
by Karl Bode 10:10AM Tuesday Nov 27 2012
When most large ISPs are subpoenaed by the entertainment industry for trading copyrighted files, they hand that data over without much concern for user privacy. Occasionally you'll see a company like Time Warner Cable protest the subpoenas, albeit simply because they're annoyed by the added labor costs involved. Verizon was one of the few big ISPs to fight with the entertainment industry over their DMCA carpet bombing efforts back in 2003. Verizon has also battled a book publisher who has been subpoenaing ISPs for the identities of eBook BitTorrent traders.

With the increase in extortion-like mass lawsuits by some copyright holders, ISPs like Verizon, Comcast and AT&T have been fighting back -- at least against companies that don't deal in content they have any real stake in (porn, e-books). Verizon now joins AT&T and Comcast and is the focus of a new lawsuit by Third Degree Films (makers of such classics as Illegal Ass 2), who claims Verizon's avoiding handing over names because they profit from piracy:
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“Verizon’s current Objections can only be seen as being asserted in bad faith, and with the expectation to continue to profit from BitTorrent infringement at the expense of other, lower-tier ISPs and the consuming public at large. There is seemingly no incentive for ISPs such as Verizon to aggressively identify infringers on their network," they tell the court. "Add to this the fact that Verizon and its cohorts enjoy virtual immunity from liability under the development of laws such as the DMCA, and this scenario presents multiple concerns of fairness and accountability."
The porn studio's lawyers fail to mention that Verizon is involved in the entertainment industry's new "six strikes" initiative, and will soon start throttling pirates on their network.

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tpkatl

join:2009-11-16
Dacula, GA

Deep pockets will win

And verizon's are a whole lot deeper than some raggedy-ass nagging law firm.

If Verizon stays and fights this out - which is not a given - the plaintiff is going to give up. They simply aren't going to have the stamina or funds to take on Verizon.

And Verizon is going to win anyway - it's a very hard case to make that an ISP isn't "doing enough". There are a zillion defenses to the assertion.

Bottom line: the law firm is throwing away their money and Verizon is going to squish them.
Telco

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Re: Deep pockets will win

I'll pay extra on my bills to cover their legal team. It's time these trolls are stomped into the ground, in which they belong.
funny0

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Re: Deep pockets will win

said by Telco:

I'll pay extra on my bills to cover their legal team. It's time these trolls are stomped into the ground, in which they belong.

ya that will go to paying for the six strikes law smart move ....
TBBroadband

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Re: Deep pockets will win

Six strikes is not really a law but a greed upon policy between the ISPs and the studios.

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Re: Deep pockets will win

said by TBBroadband:

a greed upon policy

Ya gotta love typos that speak to the truth.

cdru
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said by tpkatl:

And verizon's are a whole lot deeper than some raggedy-ass nagging law firm.

If Verizon stays and fights this out - which is not a given - the plaintiff is going to give up. They simply aren't going to have the stamina or funds to take on Verizon.

And Verizon is going to win anyway - it's a very hard case to make that an ISP isn't "doing enough". There are a zillion defenses to the assertion.

Bottom line: the law firm is throwing away their money and Verizon is going to squish them.

I can't tell. Was this deliberate or just a coincidence?

Verizon is represented by Morrison Foerster. Their website mofo.com seems to indicate that if you have a hard case and need lots of stamina to go deep into the assertations, they are the mofo for the job.
tpkatl

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Re: Deep pockets will win

I'm the original poster, and I assure you that I had absolutely NO intention of making off-color innuendos in my response. I'm clever, but I am not THAT clever.

I can't decide if you deserve to be criticized for your filthy mind, or congratulated for your powers of observation.

cdru
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Re: Deep pockets will win

said by tpkatl:

I can't decide if you deserve to be criticized for your filthy mind, or congratulated for your powers of observation.

Oh trust me. You haven't even scratch the surface of my filthy mind.
CXM_Splicer
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said by cdru:

said by tpkatl:

And verizon's are a whole lot deeper than some raggedy-ass nagging law firm.

If Verizon stays and fights this out - which is not a given - the plaintiff is going to give up. They simply aren't going to have the stamina or funds to take on Verizon.

And Verizon is going to win anyway - it's a very hard case to make that an ISP isn't "doing enough". There are a zillion defenses to the assertion.

Bottom line: the law firm is throwing away their money and Verizon is going to squish them.

I can't tell. Was this deliberate or just a coincidence?

Verizon is represented by Morrison Foerster. Their website mofo.com seems to indicate that if you have a hard case and need lots of stamina to go deep into the assertations, they are the mofo for the job.

Their domain choice has to be deliberate and not just because their firm does happen to work well as mofo.

So I guess even lawyers can sometimes sink to high school level jokes.

(on a side note its easy to remember which does make it an excellent choice from a business perspective.)
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cdru
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Re: Deep pockets will win

said by Kearnstd:

(on a side note its easy to remember which does make it an excellent choice from a business perspective.)

They also have morrisonfoerster.com that redirects to mofo.com. However, shortness and being easy to remember is important, but my guess is that it's more to prevent confusion. I'm presuming that foerster is pronounced like forester and if they only used the morrisonfoerster.com names, a lot of traffic and email would inadvertently go to morrisonforester.com instead. By using mofo.com, that whole issue is avoided.

jseymour

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This Story...

...Is Worthless Without Pics

cdru
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Re: This Story...

said by jseymour:

...Is Worthless Without Pics

Do you really want pictures of old crusty lawyers arguing about porn?

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cyber610

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remember when

remember when the RIAA and the MPAA wanted to charge the isp's 10 bucks a month on are internet bill do to all the downloading. and dont they get money on blank media cd,tapes,mp3 players,dvd players and so on

Simba7
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Re: remember when

said by cyber610:

remember when the RIAA and the MPAA wanted to charge the isp's 10 bucks a month on are internet bill do to all the downloading. and dont they get money on blank media cd,tapes,mp3 players,dvd players and so on

Please.. Grammar and spell check..

But ya, anything that records and/or can be recorded onto.

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said by cyber610:

... dont they get money on blank media cd,tapes,mp3 players,dvd players and so on

Only if you buy the, "Music-rated" media.
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stevek1949
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Re: remember when

Looks like Cox is also in the mix:

Porn-related copyright infringement cases increase

»hamptonroads.com/2012/11/pornrel···increase
Kearnstd
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The porn industry cannot win against ISPs

Mainly because they have no outside leverage. Verizon would react to a claim from Disney because Disney owns a shitload of channels. As such keeping them happy is important.

Random porn company? not so much
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