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Willingboro, NJ | 40 years for looking at porn 40 years...what about paris hilton who only get 23 days...Don't you just love you justice system. | |
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Stop deleting my posts
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North Babylon, NY | Re: 40 years for looking at porn More like 3.5 days  | |
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Tomek
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join:2002-01-30
Brooklyn, NY | Average citizen... ... will be just making "friends" in that time.
I often think that US justice system is a joke, and yet we wonder why other countries don't want to follow US example.
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BabyBear
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join:2007-01-11
| Re: Average citizen... said by Mike  : tittes for tots. Yeah I think I gave a donation to a Marine last Xmas for that worthy charity. 
Actually in these days of budget cutbacks for schools, I'm surprised they didn't try to pass it off as their Sex Ed. for the semester.  | |
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join:2002-02-20
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| said by Mike :This person on an insecure government computer showed tittes to tots. They were being executed at dawn. That pretty much sums it up for me.
They saw a little bit of porn - most likely unintentionally. Get over it.
And they're seventh graders. It's nothing they won't be downloading themselves within a year.
I think she has a very good chance, seeing as how I'd bet at least some of the jury members have had this same problem. | |
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join:2003-12-08
Tulsa, OK
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| said by Mike :This person on an insecure government computer showed tittes to tots. so what does that do to them exactly? Make them hungry? I'm not sure showing breasts to someone who thinks of them as a food source is doing anything. If the kids had hit puberty that would be something else. | |
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Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate
join:2000-12-01
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| actually the US justice system is one of the harshest systems among other developed economies. It's true that celeberties do get a break here, but in Europe they might not have been penalized at all (because of their status). Other than that - we have a very "punishing" system. In Europe, convicts get lesser penalties.
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join:2002-10-06
Kearny, NJ | Re: Average citizen... I do not know where you get that info, in europen some country when you are giving 30 years you will do 30 years no parole is not the same case in usa. | |
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Kindguy98
Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate
join:2000-12-01
Brooklyn, NY
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| Re: Average citizen... yes, but much fewer people will get 30 years - it's not like here - where we have these penalties left and right. Why do we have parole and other defense mechamisms - b/c we need them to mitigate the harshness of the results.
And Tikker_LoS, I am speaking the truth, since I am familiar with this area.
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Regina, SK | do you actually think you're speaking the truth?
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join:2002-05-09
Kent, WA | Re: 40 years for looking at porn Paris only got 3.5 days only because people think she's hot, & female. If she was ugly then she would probably still be serving the 40 days. | |
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join:2006-10-06
Dinuba, CA | Porno pop-ups or a DUI, what is worse in the legal eyes? Porno of course! Who cares about the safety of the common citizen when children might be looking at titties!  | |
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Michieru
zzz zzz zzz
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL | For god sakes don't even bring that up, I am about to bust a few nerve cells just thinking about it. | |
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| Our legal system is setup to run over anybody without the financial means to really put up a good fight. I think its a poor excuse for justice. I'm glad sombody saw the folly so the lady gets another chance. Hopefully the courts dont screw up again. That porn spam is really bad news trying to close it. And there is no law that says computer dingbats have to go to prison. | |
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join:2001-04-29
Jacksonville, FL
| Re: 40 years for looking at porn said by Anomus :
That porn spam is really bad news trying to close it.
Yeah, I have seen that mess of a problem before. A customers computer had it, and if you closed the ad, 3 more came
popped up, and of those 3, closing those will generate more. So cleaning up and closing the ad makes the problem worse. I have sided with the substitute on this one even after the court ruled her guilty. I hope she wins.
But then again, this might be an attempt by the courts to discourage stupid people from getting computers. Since she's a substitute this wouldn't be her computer, so she shouldn't goto jail, unless they determine the spyware/popup software was installed by her without a shadow of a doubt. But I DO agree that the justice system should make "computer illiterate" a crime to a certain degree, because a computer is a valuable tool that should not be used unless you have at least basic knowledge about spyware and firewalls. I think if you don't know how to install your O/S from scratch or install hardware, then you shouldn't have one without a class or tutor. But that'll never be the case. | |
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Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
| I read what happen the the lady, forty years for something she could have done little about. If she had been running FireFox it would never have happened. I remember once I got into a porn page and in seconds it dumped over 20 pages on me and every time I closed down one 5 or 6 more would pop up. This was with a earlier version of explorer. This is what got me to try Firefox and have been using it every since. Semebody was looking for votes in the next election.
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World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
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| I look forward to Ms. Amero... Suing everything that evinces life force and was associated with this obvious case of barratry and perjury.
I suspect that when this thing is drilled down into, you will find that the school district has a very well-connected IT manager/consultant who falsified work order completions and maintenance billing and lied to the prosecutors to save his butt.
Just a guess. If this is the case, it should not absolve anyone else involved in bringing this gross miscarraige of justice. Prosecutors, judges, school officials and the parents who whipped this along, she should go for the jugular with all of them. Rip their guts out, in the finest legal sense.
An episode worthy of the era of The Salem Witch Trials, only more egregious, because it is now, not the 1600's. | |
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join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ
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| Re: I look forward to Ms. Amero... Advertisement for the new reality show (imagine an announcers voice):
The Salem Witch Trials are now "New and Improved!"
Brought back and updated with "today's" technology!
We don't use the dunking chair that had an audience of a mere 100 - No! We use the internet to ruin people and their families for the World to view.
We can show in real time their humiliation even if they are innocent!
We don't have to be right or even use common sense as long as were looking like were "saving the children" and have Nielsen's Rating of 1 ga-zillion viewers!
Sponsored by over zealous District Attorneys looking to make a name for themselves off the most defenceless. | |
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World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
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| Re: Her child DIED due to this... said by qworster :She was pregnant and had a miscarriage caused by the stress of this crap. They should charge the sadistic prosecutor and "expert" witness detective with manslaughter! Protecting the children? What a load of crap! They KILLED a child here! She miscarried from this ordeal? Oh, it's no wonder all those heavy-duty lawyers lined up to work on this pro bono.
She's gonna own Norwich CT. Not pwn...OWN. Lock, stock and barrel. I sure hope she's full of the righteous indignation necessary to take this ALL the way.
And as far as "expert witness detectives" are concerned, from what I have seen around here, they don't know merde. I saw them try to ruin some poor dumb bastard's life with a trumped up "child porn" charge. But they never brought charges. Just lots of crap in the papers. The guy could barely log on to get his email. Find pr0n of any type? Hardly. As if. | |
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join:2006-03-04
Saint Paul, MN
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| Justice? Very rarely is there justice. It's a legal system not a justice system. Just laws... I think someone else stated this 
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join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
| Re: Justice? Complete crap the school district involved screwed over the substitute teacher who probably did not have any union representation, so they would not get nailed for not having the proper filtering on their computers. Typical which is why I got out of teaching years ago. If you are a single male in a classroom setting you can have some sweetie accuse you of anything they want and you are destroyed even though the charges are complete crap the school system will ruin you and the sweetie who makes the charges even if they are proved to be total fabrications she gets off Scott free, and is untouchable.
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join:2005-06-03
Bedford, MA | Re: Justice? And school districts wonder why they can't attract teachers. And if you're falsely accused by some "sweetie", what about suing for libel? | |
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| Re: Justice? said by old_wiz_60 :And school districts wonder why they can't attract teachers. And if you're falsely accused by some "sweetie", what about suing for libel? That is just it, you can't. the way the Fema-Nazies got the law written you can't sue because what evil men could do to cause some poor women to not report rape and what not. Look at what happened to the Duke, Lacrosse players the rent-a-whore who accused them of assaulting her last time I heard has got off Scott free.
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join:2002-10-15
Philadelphia, PA
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| Re: Justice? I dunno if you can blame the "Femi-Nazis" for all that. But you're right about the ridiculous consequences (or lack thereof) for false accusations. | |
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insomniac84
join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN | Just sad. Even if she gets off, I say there is no justice unless everyone who did their job trying the case are put in jail for 40 years. Because all this teacher did was go to work, if that's a crime, put everyone away. | |
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join:2006-01-03
New York, NY
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| How the fuck... Do you impair the morals of a child by showing them porn. These weren't even children almost they were fucking 12 the legal definition of child is someone under 13 so they were almost adolescents. I bet the so called children are just too scared to admit they clicked on the fucking porn and enjoyed it because they have been told it corrupts their morals. Also why should someone be deprived of their freedom for 40 years for this. | |
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Onward Through The Fog
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
| Re: How the fuck... The reality of the situation is these kid saw nothing they had not seen before. When we first got internet access here at work and before they installed filters you could tell the age of the teenager who was surfing. Broadband was a uncommon thing in those days. Jr High it was T&A, finally winding up with bestiality, bondage, you name it. I always checked the web history of the computer I was on and cleared it out to make sure nobody though I was visiting these sites.
If I had been in this teacher's shoes I would have unplugged the computer and told the school to get the damn thing out of the room, unfortunately a substitute teacher just does not have the power to do much, and a school district will screw over a substitute every time.
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I Have A Secret Window
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join:2001-10-17
Lake Hiawatha, NJ
| Very sad indeed If anyone should be going to jail it should be the IT guy and whoever 'wrote' her up over this. Not to mention the prosecutors and judge, as they should be hung for allowing such a bullsh*t case to even get to court.
I hope it gets dropped and I hope she counters for some big $$$
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join:2006-06-18
Silverdale, WA
| It is not what it seems The stories that have been circulating on the net about this matter are very inaccurate. Here's a link to a story that gives a good summary, based on the testimony at the trial. It also contains links to where you can download the trial transcript if you want to read it.
»www.norwichbulletin.com/apps/pbc···02250334
She is not in trouble for having a couple of pop-ups appear, which the kids briefly saw. She is in trouble for not handling the situation well over the next several hours, as pop-ups continued to pop-up, and she failed to take reasonable steps to handle the situation. She doesn't deserve jail over this, but she deserves to be told to seek another profession, as she is not competent to be in charge of a room full of kids. | |
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jc100
join:2002-04-10
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| Legal Action Against Courts for Miscarriage of Justice? If this woman served jail time due to this travesty of justice, I hope the state pays her for wrongful imprisonment. I would make a HUGE stink once that not guilty verdict gets read (which it hopefully will be). If I were her, I'd go on the talk show circuit pointing out the incompetence of the Original Judge, Prosecutor, and All else involved. Of course, if the judge who heard the case initially threw it out, I would spare him the embarrassment. However, I would string that prosecutor by his feet and demand a resignation for failing to do his job properly. Enough public pressure can often make this happen. | |
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join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| The police officer who was an "expert"..... ....was challenged repeatedly online and never once explained himself. That shows how much of an idiot he is. In fact, even the judge thinks he is an idiot:
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Superior Court Judge Hillary Strackbein granted Amero's motion for a retrial Wednesday after determining that a Norwich police detective who was called as an expert prosecution witness had given "erroneous" testimony about the computer.
»scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2007···rned.php
Mark Lounsbury, the police officer in question, should be removed from the police department as a "computer expect" and be made to write parking tickets. He had no business being a police expert in this matter. | |
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Mount Vernon, WA | re: icon I love the icon. Comedic gold. Thumbs Up Karl. | |
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