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What Da?
join:2002-02-06
San Jose, CA |  Right On
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ghostpainter
I Write for the Apocalypse
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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| Re: Right On WAY TA GO PAC BELL....Remember I am the one who said the issue of all of these subpoenas, without a proper summons and compliant being filed in the proper courts was an illegle act in it self...hopefull the other ISP's and service groups follow suit... | |
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DenverDialup
join:2003-06-06
Littleton, CO
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| Re: Right On This is great news. Now what we need are all the major broadband providers to throw their respective weight around just like Pac Bell is doing. RIAA might be big, but they certainly can't contend with every ISP - Verizon, SBC, Comcast, and so on - slamming them with lawsuits.
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Jetta392
Premium
join:2002-07-14
Martinsville, NJ
| Re: Right On said by DenverDialup  :
This is great news. Now what we need are all the major broadband providers to throw their respective weight around just like Pac Bell is doing. RIAA might be big, but they certainly can't contend with every ISP - Verizon, SBC, Comcast, and so on - slamming them with lawsuits.
"Oh" and they definitely don't want to mess with Optimum Online... No they don't! | |
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Kill the RIAAs
| ya, like comcast all the money they have and they won't stand up any say F*** off RIAA,.They JUst Hand the Names over " Ok Heear Ya's Go Maasster, Comcast should Lose some customers over This ,just hand over policy | |
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join:2003-01-01
O Fallon, MO | amen....the riaa will go down..i have forseen the future | |
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woody7
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Torrance, CA | Hmmmmmmmmmm | |
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Maxo
Your tax dollars at work.
Premium,VIP
join:2002-11-04
Tallahassee, FL
clubs: | Woot Woot Can I get a Woot Woot? | |
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MarkyD
Premium
join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs: | Re: Good for them RIGHT F'N ON, SBC! For once, I am proud of the evil empire.
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MoJeeper
The Stig in 2012
Premium
join:2000-10-20
Springfield, MO | Yes!! WoW Get Some SBC !!!!!! | |
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pnosker
Premium
join:2003-03-26
Stockton, NJ
clubs:
| Check to see if you're on the subpoena list... Here is an online directory of usernames/ip's that were subpoena'ed... check to see if you are on it, hopefully you will get lucky and SBC's claims will overrule the RIAA's Stupidity
Link:»www.eff.org/IP/P2P/riaasubpoenas/
Check back sometime though... cause around 75 subpoenas are added every day. | |
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Shamayim
I already have a Messiah.
Premium
join:2002-09-23 | Finally, some balls. Let's hope it becomes a movement! | |
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footballdude
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO | California Wasn't it a California judge that ruled against the RIAA earlier this year when they went after Kazaa? Maybe those SBC lawyers know a thing or two. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | Battle of the titans
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Cougar311
join:2002-07-18
USA | Worried... What I am really worried about is that some kid is gonna get sued and go Ape Sh*t and start shooting off rounds at people or something cause he is getting sued....I think the RIAA is treading on thin ice here. | |
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Balzer
Cat Man Dew
join:2000-12-18
Tulsa
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| Re: Worried... said by Cougar311 :
What I am really worried about is that some kid is gonna get sued and go Ape Sh*t and start shooting off rounds at people or something cause he is getting sued....I think the RIAA is treading on thin ice here.
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techwench
I Work For Food
Premium
join:2003-06-26
Sherman, TX
| said by Cougar311 :
What I am really worried about is that some kid is gonna get sued and go Ape Sh*t and start shooting off rounds at people or something cause he is getting sued....I think the RIAA is treading on thin ice here.
I 3rd that. | |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | Re: Worried... Perhaps RIAA has thought of that as well. I didn't look exhaustively, but it appears their address is no longer on their website...
Calvoiper
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techwench
I Work For Food
Premium
join:2003-06-26
Sherman, TX
| Re: Worried... said by calvoiper :
Perhaps RIAA has thought of that as well. I didn't look exhaustively, but it appears their address is no longer on their website...
Ahahahaha. That's too funny...coincidence or not.  | |
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CO_Chris
Premium
join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO | Can i 4Th that? | |
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Unit649
I B U, Who U B?
Premium
join:2000-01-22
Stockton, CA
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| I'd be more concerned that said kid will look to suicide as the way out of the problem, when the crime he committed isn't nearly as bad as murder or anything else.
I have a funny feeling when it happens the RIAA won't be trumpeting it like they do their "issued another 2000 subpoenas this week" BS.
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spenster
join:2001-04-03
Houston, TX | 4th.
Motion passed. | |
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Pirate515
Premium
join:2001-01-22
Brooklyn, NY
| said by Cougar311 :
What I am really worried about is that some kid is gonna get sued and go Ape Sh*t and start shooting off rounds at people or something cause he is getting sued...I think the RIAA is treading on thin ice here.
Well, I hope he won't start shooting off rounds at just about anyone out there on the street, but I do hope that he walks into RIAA HQ with a chain-gun in each of his hands and starts shooting everything that moves there.
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CanOpener4
join:2003-06-23
Brooklyn, NY
| Re: Worried... said by Pirate515 :
Well, I hope he won't start shooting off rounds at just about anyone out there on the street, but I do hope that he walks into RIAA HQ with a chain-gun in each of his hands and starts shooting everything that moves there.
I 2nd that
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| And I 2nd and 4th amendment that! Really, if soneone does take out the RIAA, how could you ever get a jury to convict once the sleazyness is displayed? Besides, it might make the RIAA start to think about who they are going to sue. (nah, that takes brains, never less a mind). | |
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mabus
Dissociated But Not Disconnected
join:2002-11-12
Fort Wayne, IN | Class action dreams?!? maybe this will go class action, and other large ISP's (Comcast, MSN, Verizon, etc...) will gang up to take out these RIAA thugs. One can only hope.
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dirtrat4
join:2001-10-08
Woodland, CA | YES! Its about time some of these big ISP's had some Balls and stood up to these people! Good luck SBC. | |
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Too lazy to register
@attbi.com | Bah! While this appears to go against RIAA, it has really been done for SBC itself, not its customers. Corporate posturing appearing to supporting privacy.
Bah. I am cynical. | |
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join:2003-06-25
Saint Louis, MO
| Re: Bah! Of course it's for themselves.
SBC.......defending your right to privacy.....
Now offering internet services for only $30 per month.
Who cares what their reason is. Let's just be happy they and Verizon are willing to take the RIAA on. | |
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baddawwg
join:2003-06-25
Saint Louis, MO
| Courts will decide. I still think that the courts will ultimately uphold due process and privacy rights, which are being trampled by the RIAA via the DCMA. That will effectively end the draconian tactics. Bravo to SBC and other ISP's that will probably join in now for defending privacy rights. They are not defending file sharing; they are defending privacy. | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02
Host:
Road Runner
PC gaming GAMES
PC gaming Tech
| Actually, I think they're defending their pocketbooks from the revenue it will cost to process the subpoenas, and to generate a little good PR in the process.
I don't buy for a second that these Bells, that shirk consumers at every turn, that lobby to remove state oversight, that sell user information under the table to any number of sleaze-lords....give the slightest shit about their user's privacy.
I think perhaps now and again there's a bell attorney who feels it's "the right thing to do", but in the end the law will bend to the mighty dollar, the bells won't want to spend money to continue the fight, and you'll find yourself on a raft; sold upstream.
If the supreme court gets involved and rules that the DMCA can't be used in this manner is a different animal.....but I for one won't be holding my breath. | |
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Aramis604
I Represent Nobody But Myself.
Premium
join:2000-12-15
Poway, CA
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| Surprise, Surprise Well, I knew that other telco's would eventually stand up just like Verizon did, but I would have never guessed that SBC would be the first. Well, good for them. Hopefully SBC will have better luck; they certainly have a bigger money pool to draw from, and more experienced lawyers.
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Crypto_Bug
join:2001-05-31
Torrington, CT | YES! We need to have someone like MSN to stand up and fight them. Lets get some of those billions of dollars Microsoft has in their cash stash involved in this fight. | |
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tekmunki
Tekmunki
Premium
join:2001-12-06
Lake City, FL
clubs: | w00t hrmmm, i think i have a new favorite ISP. GO BELL. | |
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shadow520
join:2002-04-03
Warren, MI
| Court of Appeals
The 9th circuit court of appeals in San Francisco is the most bizarre court in the nation. When this case goes there (it will), what are they going to say?
They voted to remove the words "under god" from the pledge of allegiance, they very well could rule the DCMA is unconstitutional. Wouldn't that be nice?
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footballdude
Premium
join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO | Re: Court of Appeals They are also the most overturned court in the US. I don't know that the supreme court would much care about this, though. | |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| Re: LOOK! Just because they own the IP range doesn't mean that they are hosting the site.
It could very well be a reseller/hosting agency that has leased an IP range from Verizon and is reselling it to their customers. And that is more than likely the case.
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phxmark
What Country Are We Living In?
join:2000-12-27
Glendale, AZ
| From www.arin.net
Search results for: ! NET-68-163-90-0-1
CustName: TST US
Address: 11311 Ashley Dr
City: Rockville
StateProv: MD
PostalCode: 20852
Country: US
RegDate: 2003-05-30
Updated: 2003-05-30
NetRange: 68.163.90.0 - 68.163.90.255
CIDR: 68.163.90.0/24
NetName: VZ-TSTS-1
NetHandle: NET-68-163-90-0-1
Parent: NET-68-160-0-0-1
NetType: Reassigned
Comment:
RegDate: 2003-05-30
Updated: 2003-05-30
NOCHandle: ZV20-ARIN
NOCName: Verizon Internet Services
NOCPhone: +1-703-295-4583
NOCEmail: noc@gnilink.net
OrgAbuseHandle: VISAB-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: VIS Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-703-295-4583
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@verizon.net
OrgTechHandle: ZV20-ARIN
OrgTechName: Verizon Internet Services
OrgTechPhone: +1-703-295-4583
OrgTechEmail: noc@gnilink.net
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-07-30 19:15
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
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lotsofplstic
join:2003-04-02
Parsons, KS
| said by UnKown :
i was curious about who would want to host the riaa.org web site so i did a little dns.
Hostname: www.riaa.com
IP address: 68.163.90.10
Aliases: 2 address(es)
68.163.90.10
146.82.174.10
i saw 68. and laughed, i was like thats a cable/dsl range what the hell are they hosting on a dsl line. so i was more curious.
Verizon Internet Services VIS-68-160 (NET-68-160-0-0-1)
68.160.0.0 - 68.163.255.255
now why in sans hell would Verizon Online be hosting there website?
I did a port scan here is what I found:
***WinIP*** o.isr00t = 1
Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap )
Warning: OS detection will be MUCH less reliable because we did not find at least 1 open and 1 closed TCP port
Interesting ports on (68.163.90.10):
(The 1599 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: filtered)
Port State Service
80/tcp open http
443/tcp open https
No OS matches for host (test conditions non-ideal).
TCP/IP fingerprint:
SInfo(V=3.00%P=i686-pc-windows-windows%D=8/1%Time=3F2A0F99%O=80%C=-1)
TSeq(Class=TR%IPID=RD%TS=U)
T1(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=578%ACK=S++%Flags=AS%Ops=ME)
T2(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=578%ACK=O%Flags=R%Ops=)
T3(Resp=N)
T4(Resp=Y%DF=N%W=578%ACK=O%Flags=R%Ops=)
T5(Resp=N)
T6(Resp=N)
T7(Resp=N)
PU(Resp=N)
Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 225 seconds
Just thought you would want to know what I found. | |
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jsouth
Jsouth
join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS | Chip away at them. Even if Pac Bell loses it still takes money away from the RIAA. | |
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dddane
join:2002-01-10
Chicago, IL | in sbc's interest good for them... its in their selfish best interest... what percentage of people got broadband after they realized their mp3 downloads were sluggish on dial-ups? | |
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onavi
join:2000-09-21
Porter Ranch, CA
| Re: in sbc's interest said by dddane :
good for them... its in their selfish best interest... what percentage of people got broadband after they realized their mp3 downloads were sluggish on dial-ups?
a good percentage of internet users or they got broadband for porn. | |
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PunkGod
join:2003-02-02 | GO PACBELL 3 cheers for this company woohoo | |
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