elray join:2000-12-16 Santa Monica, CA |
elray
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2013-Nov-12 11:02 am
The Wrong Focus, as UsualThe incessant harping by the media on the subject ignores the fundamental flaw in their complaint: Telco exists because government allows it to; they sell the data because it would be taken anyway, or they would be shut down in one form or another.
Why isn't the MSM scrutinizing the government, instead?
After all, wasn't it DOJ that went fishing and "tapped" over a dozen AP reporters phone records? | |
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zerog_anon
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2013-Nov-12 8:44 pm
Re: The Wrong Focus, as Usuallooks like a standard lawyering tactic to me: flank 'em! | |
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MaynardKrebsWe did it. We heaved Steve. Yipee. Premium Member join:2009-06-17 |
Not that this 'revelation' will make one iota of differenceSSDD | |
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Probitas
Anon
2013-Nov-12 12:34 pm
Knowledge is powerGet enough people together to class action against AT&T, and if the courts hold it up (they can't rightly deny it, otherwise ANYONE could take anyone elses information and sell it, including legalizing data theft and sale of credit card information). People just have to stand up for themselves and force it, they are far to compliant. | |
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| CXM_SplicerLooking at the bigger picture Premium Member join:2011-08-11 NYC |
Re: Knowledge is powerI wonder if I could sell Verizon proprietary information to the highest bidder since they also seem to be open to 'information sharing'? Certainly I could be fired for it but it isn't like it is classified or anything. Locations of important government/financial fiber optic lines... passwords to various systems, internal phone numbers, etc. I am sure there are various groups that would pay handsomely for such knowledge.
If we are going to live in an age where our personal information is no longer consider our own once we share it with anyone then the companies that choose to live by that model should be prepared for the precedent they are setting. | |
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Re: Knowledge is powerquote: If we are going to live in an age where our personal information is no longer consider our own once we share it with anyone then the companies that choose to live by that model should be prepared for the precedent they are setting.
Silly, the rule of law only applies to you, not them. | |
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You mean like Snowden and the rest? Where did it get them? Exiled, imprisoned, Enemies of the State. Just be quiet and keep supporting the Party comrade. | |
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Customers can't class-action sue AT&T anymore... It's in the service contract. Assholes. | |
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Re: Knowledge is powerActually that doesn't mean very much. Most companies service contracts state there must be a mediation period before a lawsuit, you can find recent class actions lawsuits against ATT for other things.
Giving up your right to sue isn't something you can easily sign away especially in the case of the broad contracts that companies like ATT provide to their customers. They want people like you to think you signed it away so that you don't even try to get a lawyer. | |
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What ISP, tech, and credit company don't do it alreayIt seems to me all of them are selling information in form or the other. The CIA is just buying it like the private sector do. | |
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Glad I don't have themI have banned att service at my house. Hell I'd like the phone wire off my house too. Oh by the way, as a customer with att, you have no rights, so ditch them creeps if you can! | |
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LawThe government is above the law, didn't you know that? | |
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andre2 join:2005-08-24 Brookline, MA |
andre2
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2013-Nov-12 3:57 pm
Two words...Retroactive immunity. | |
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BiggA Premium Member join:2005-11-23 Central CT |
BiggA
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2013-Nov-12 7:03 pm
Ya think?And why are we surprised at this? | |
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GTECONTEL
Anon
2013-Nov-13 8:34 am
Re: Ya think?Because the libertarians among us envision their world where everyone builds and pays for their own cell phone network so they can sell your data to private companies instead of the govt. that they hate. | |
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BiggA
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2013-Nov-13 8:58 pm
Re: Ya think?huh? | |
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ackman join:2000-10-04 Atlanta, GA |
ackman
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2013-Nov-13 1:16 pm
It's too lateThe prior administration, specifically GWB, stated that "the US Constitution is just a G-- D--- piece of paper", and the current administration supports that notion. Look at how Obama has gone after prosecuting whistle-blowers, whose only act was to expose lawbreaking by the federal government. The Supreme Court was stacked with hard-line right wingers, so they won't change it. It's going to take some sort of major cultural/societal shift in the US for the rule of law to return to the federal level. | |
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