  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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kudos:4 |  New lower prices could get dial-up users to switch
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 |  The BeerI Love It When A Plan Comes TogetherPremium
join:2001-07-24
Atlantic, IA | Re: New lower prices could get dial-up users to switch Yes and when the promotional price is over they will switch back.
If Qwest would have a respectful product at a good price they would not have this problem.
Just beat Cox with thier everyday price and be done with it. | |
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| | | | Re: New lower prices could get dial-up users to switch Thank you, At my GF's house she has dsl and the only tier available is 1.5, and we live in a pretty populated area, at my house i have the upgraded Comcast, BIIIIGGG difference. I wish Qworst would do some upgrades. | |
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| | | | | Qwest and lower prices! What the hell are they talking about the new tiers are only;y applicable if you have their bloated expensive crap aka the landline that cost about 24$ a month additional so for getting 14.99 for 1.5 mbps you pay 14.99+23.47 = 38.44. I would not call this a lower price exactly | |
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| Re: Qwest and lower prices! Exactly, We left Iowa Telecom for Mediacom after we got tired of paying $60 a month just for Internet access and of course $30 of that was for a phoneline which never got used and 1.5 Mb DSL plus, they had Interleaved turned on at the DSLAM which made the connection even worse 50 MS from my router to there core router and now I0 13 MS with Mediacom | |
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| | | | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | said by nutcr0cker:What the hell are they talking about the new tiers are only;y applicable if you have their bloated expensive crap aka the landline that cost about 24$ a month additional so for getting 14.99 for 1.5 mbps you pay 14.99+23.47 = 38.44. I would not call this a lower price exactly It's called "becuase they can't run a major telecom on everyone buying a $14.95 per month product!" ... it's a reality check that most people here don't get!
DSL is not a money maker at $14.95. Well, at least in the case of Verizon it was becuase when the service has issues, and it does, getting them to fix it is worse than pulling teeth on a bangle tiger. One service call and that customer is a loss - doesn't anyone see this?
The rate drop is a lost leader.. its a way to get attention. The UPPER tiers are where the price reductions should have been all along. The lower price tiers are already reasonably priced for the product at hand.
What people want, here at least, is to be able to buy a product at dirt cheap prices.. get the bundle or loyal prices that are meant for marketing purposes or loyal customers who spend more and not have to commit to the company elsewhere other than their tiny $14 a month. At that price, it's okay for many becuase they expect others to subsidize that "bloated crap" so the rest can have the cheap services. | |
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| | | | | Re: New lower prices could get dial-up users to switch /start rant/
I second that. I am surrounded by DSL. My block and the next block east of me don't because we're all on pair gain. If you go 900' any direction from my house and DSL is available because those areas aren't pair gain. Dang Qwest won't redo the lines to remove the pair gain. Do some upgrades!
/end rant/
I can see where Qwest is coming from in my situation though. It's not worth it to do all the work for what will amount to a few new DSL subscribers. | |
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| |  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
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Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | said by The Beer:Yes and when the promotional price is over they will switch back. Not so fast there bubby. promo period is 12 months, minimum contract length is 18 months. so you're stuck for 6 months after your rates shoot back up if you don't want to be hit with ETF!
and in the end it is STILL QWEST SERVICE!
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| | | The BeerI Love It When A Plan Comes TogetherPremium
join:2001-07-24
Atlantic, IA | Re: New lower prices could get dial-up users to switch Yea I did the math, I switched back recently... here is why.
I live 2 blocks from the RDSLAM
They gave me a $100 NFM Gift Card (And I was buying a new TV that day anyway)
Paid my phone package for 3 Months
I need the phone line for the alarm (Nextalarm is to expensive now)
Cox is like $55/mo for just internet now.
Qwest was like $52/mo all taxes for package and 6.0/mo first year, $60 there after on price for life.
Hopefully the package stays at $25/mo.
So I will ride it out, sure it's slower than cox but I get my port 25 and 80 
As for qwest service.... they ran out of pairs for my house (I have an unrelated T1) so they threw a CAT5 on the fence till they could come bury it, that was 4 months ago. | |
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| said by Romney2012:The new lower tiers are priced such that they could get a large number of users to switch from dial-up. And the price drops on their faster tiers could get some users to switch from cable as well. I'm willing to say no. The dial-up users don't want to "spend that much money" on internet access. If they can find something for $9.99 a month, they'll stick. Trust me I have an Aunt and Uncle like that, they won't spend the extra $10 a month and get basic DSL, oh and you can throw a rock at their CO from their house.
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| | | | Re: New lower prices could get dial-up users to switch said by dslwanter:said by Romney2012:The new lower tiers are priced such that they could get a large number of users to switch from dial-up. And the price drops on their faster tiers could get some users to switch from cable as well. I'm willing to say no. The dial-up users don't want to "spend that much money" on internet access. If they can find something for $9.99 a month, they'll stick. Trust me I have an Aunt and Uncle like that, they won't spend the extra $10 a month and get basic DSL, oh and you can throw a rock at their CO from their house. Yea, lots of these people still have Win98 machines, because 'this one works just fine!'. I put some old parts of mine into my mother-in-law's machine, enough that it would run Vista, but she still won't switch from dial-up. | |
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| |  knightmbEverybody Lies
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Franklin, TN | said by dslwanter:said by Romney2012:The new lower tiers are priced such that they could get a large number of users to switch from dial-up. And the price drops on their faster tiers could get some users to switch from cable as well. I'm willing to say no. The dial-up users don't want to "spend that much money" on internet access. If they can find something for $9.99 a month, they'll stick. Trust me I have an Aunt and Uncle like that, they won't spend the extra $10 a month and get basic DSL, oh and you can throw a rock at their CO from their house. I see you've been reading the minds of our marketing department. Yes, for $9.99 (which is really $10, we all know that), people have no problem paying for faster Internet service. Even a lowly 768 kbps connection is light years faster than "dial, then redial" 28k to 53k service. 
Customers are very happy with the speed difference because anything double that of dial up is actually noticeable to them. Unlike going from 6 MB to 10MB for the "average Joe" user anyway. Power users, of course, notice the difference. 
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| |  TransmasterDon't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
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Cheyenne, WY
1 edit | Instead of bitching about this I say thank you for saving me some money. Yes I have bundle pricing which I am perfectly happy with. I'll I have heard about is Cox has this Comcast has that bla-bla-bla. I am now going sit back and wait for the "well in Japan they have a 100,000,000,000,000 Mbps connection for $3.95, grr, snarl, row, gritting teeth...
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Peyton, CO | Re: Thank You! said by Transmaster:I am now going sit back and wait for the "well in Japan they have a 100,000,000,000,000 Mbps connection for $3.95, grr, snarl, row, gritting teeth... There is probably a subsidy from the government involved as NTT is probably state owned?
We just got 1.5Mbps DSL from Qwest this week - it was just made available. I have a 3Mbps wireless service ($45/month) w/VoIP for $20/month (unlimited) that I use for LD, and the rates are great for calls to Europe. VoIP was a tad choppy on the wireless, but over copper it should be fine.
I need 2 different ISPs as we work from home/telecommute and can't afford outages. So, my wireless is $45, the VoIP is $20, DSL is $15 (I know, $30 after the promo ends, but it is less than my other wireless that I will cancel once I'm sure Qwest DSL is stable enough to trust), and the Qwest landline ($24 + VM + CallerID = like $45/month). We don't have cable where we live (rural).
Qwest is the only wire to the house. If they offered a higher-speed package, I'd take it. I'll keep DirecTv with DirecTv as I don't need Qwest being the middleman. I'll never see fiber. | |
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| said by Romney2012:The new lower tiers are priced such that they could get a large number of users to switch from dial-up. And the price drops on their faster tiers could get some users to switch from cable as well. At any point during the earth's rotation, some regions are dark while others benefit from sunlight.
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| | When I switched... They offered me a small discount for 3 months. I replied.."That's great, but then after the 3 months I'll be right back where I started from". They aren't competitve with Cox. Their DSL rates are decent, but the landline charges are attrocious. | |
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join:2001-11-25
Phoenix, AZ
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·Cox HSI
| Price Can't Overcome Lack of Service Qwest can lower the price all they want, but if they are unable to deliver the speeds because their copper is old, then they still won't get customers. I left them for Charter in Oregon and Cox in Phoenix and couldn't be happier.
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1 edit | Re: Price Can't Overcome Lack of Service Agreed. I live in Tucson AZ with in city limits and can only get 1.5mbps from Qwest. Before this I lived in Vermont... I was able to get Verizon's 3 mbps service in a little podunk town with maybe 10000 residence over 5 years ago...
Tucson's population is greater than the entire state of VT and they can't offer anything more?
I of course have Cox cable as Qwest is not even competition. | |
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| | that's been the price I switched a couple months ago to Qwest and that's what the prices were then so I don't believe this is a major change. | |
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Seattle, WA | Re: that's been the price yep, that have been this way for months, but only if you get packages. | |
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| | Lower prices for ATT Customers As well? Is Qwest price cuts just the beginning? Will we soon see others such as ATT and Cox begin dropping theirs?
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| CorydonCultivant son jardinPremium
join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO | Re: Lower prices for ATT Customers As well? said by TF:Is Qwest price cuts just the beginning? Will we soon see others such as ATT and Cox begin dropping theirs? I'd imagine that this is partly a response to the economy, but partly also an admission that Qwest has trouble competing against triple play offers. Verizon and AT&T have made it quite clear that they intend to compete with the cable companies on the quality of the services offered (FiOS and U-Verse) rather than on price, and the cable companies themselves are the same way.
While I would anticipate that all of these companies will make sure they have less expensive "value" tiers available to retain customers in temporary financial straits, they probably won't market them too heavily.
On the plus side, this means that if you feel you can cut back your services a bit, you can probably get yourself a permanent reduction in your bill if you call in to your ISP and give them a hard luck story.
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that's a bargain. Considering I'm paying that same amount for 768Kbps/128Kbps.
Damn you Bellsouth. | |
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1 edit | it's all relative I'm paying $47/month (including modem rental) for their fastest 3M VDSL Choice Online service. If they ever get around to replacing the RT at the end of my block where the fiber ends I could more than double my speed, get a free modem and save $10/month ($22 if I get the promotional rate). | |
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1 edit | As usual, what's the upload speeds? I am in a Qwest state and get almost daily ads from Qwest in the mail or newspaper giving their costs for various download speeds. They never give upload speeds. Apparently, regardless of download speed, uploads are limited to about 800 + kbit/sec. Something about a limitation of their ADSL technology.
If one needs to upload large files, say to a web site you maintain, etc., this could be a consideration. Qwest connections also apparently have very poor latency which is very important for gamers. Again, something to do with their technology.
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| Existing Customers: grab thy ankles Is the same old in effect here?
Yanoo, it takes the economy bombing for the brain trust at DSL companies to price aggressively in the face of Golden Goo® , and then they pull the 'Existing Customers' crap. I hope they're going to reduce for current subs.
Rate cuts should spread across the board; existing subs should automatically be migrated to the new prices given their current tier.
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1 edit | Re: Existing Customers: grab thy ankles Actually as an almost 9 year VDSL subscriber I've had pretty good luck getting them to drop my rate when the ADSL rates go down. I politely point out that I'm a long term sub and would like some consideration for that fact. | |
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Mechanicsburg, PA | ummm can i get qwest? ummm, if i could get qwest here in south central pa, i'd go for it in a heartbeat. competition is what makes a good, level environment for consumers. merry christmas all! bub | |
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| | Hopefully Comast will do the same! That would RULE!!! It would also rule if Qwest would update my area to download speeds faster than 1.5mbps!
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| | Economy I wonder how much of this is because due to this brilliant economy people are dropping DSL in droves because of the cost? | |
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| | Qwest As others have said, the "14.99 dsl" is 38.44 before about $4 of taxes and fees. Basic 1.5 dsl is 39.99/mo. with them. That is atrocious, $40/mo for 1.5mb. I hope Qwest rot. They've got monopolies in most of their service areas with "competition" from comcast or whoever in a few others for a consumer-friendly duopoly. Ahh the freedom of choice. If you think $40 for 1.5mb is fair, go to Europe, Asia..hell any industrialized country would laugh at it. And for the record, this "14.99 DSL promo" started in July. | |
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