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Formerly TwoKDialup
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join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| Ruby Ranch Will Qworst make Connect Quantum or Connect Titanium available to the famous Ruby Ranch Internet Cooperative Association residents?
»www.rric.net/
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
 ·buckeye cable
| Re: Ruby Ranch no. they actually have their own equipment from what i understand.
and why must you call them Qworst when you don't even use their services; you have no clue how they actually act toward their customers, except for what people say on here and that is just a hand full. you only hear about the bad issues. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Ruby Ranch said by hottboiinnc  :no. they actually have their own equipment from what i understand. and why must you call them Qworst when you don't even use their services; you have no clue how they actually act toward their customers, except for what people say on here and that is just a hand full. you only hear about the bad issues. Well i *have* used Qworst's services and qworst is being nice[what id really want to say about them would get the post moderated]
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Toledo, OH | Re: Ruby Ranch like everything else. your experience and mine differ.
I have used Qwest for services before in Ohio. LD, Toll free services, T1. All reps were great! never a problem. | |
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deviationer
join:2005-01-01
Portland, OR | BS I smell some BS here. | |
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| gateguy
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Reisterstown, MD | Barbara Streisand? | |
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| nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD | bart simpson? | |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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| Done_Posting
Shoot to kill
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join:2003-08-22
Toledo, OH | Boiled squid?
Tate | |
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| MeKuN
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Eugene, OR | Bowling Shoes? | |
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LiamJunket
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join:2002-03-03
Ocean City, NJ | BellSouth ?
Bruce Springsteen ?
Buffalo Sabres ? | |
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MSauk
MSauk
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join:2002-01-17
Sandy, UT | They have no plan for the future I just wish they would update the area I live in, right now all I can get is 1.5 down and 768 up! Are you kidding me, I was getting that 3 or 4 years ago.
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| skriefal
join:2002-12-26
Sandy, UT | Re: They have no plan for the future I'm in Sandy, UT and just upgraded to the 12mbps/896kbps service last week. Might not be available through the entire city yet... | |
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mobbo
join:2005-04-13
Denton, TX | Have fun! Absolutely no plan to make even a decent attempt to upgrade infrastructure for the future of consumer bandwidth needs?
Enjoy the long, painful drop to bankruptcy! | |
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questionable
join:2005-10-18
Phoenix, AZ | NON - Qwest people "sigh" Lets have a contest. How many NON-Qwest customer can we get to post in here.
I hope they update my area to higher speeds I have VDSl with TV which according to some info i have seen is a 22 meg connection... I would love a 12 meg connection | |
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| jmcgeejr
join:2000-05-15
Kirkland, WA | Re: NON - Qwest people "sigh" The comment on Aerial drops is such a bogus in WA here most of our stuff is all underground. Verizon comes in and runs the fiber, they have a very efficient team that does it to might I add. | |
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK
·Cox HSI
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| Re: NON - Qwest people "sigh" said by jmcgeejr :The comment on Aerial drops is such a bogus in WA here most of our stuff is all underground. Verizon comes in and runs the fiber, they have a very efficient team that does it to might I add. It's just an excuse. Must suck to be the captive customer of a phone company that not only won't upgrade but sits there making excuses about how it just can't be done.
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join:2005-01-25 | Re: NON - Qwest people "sigh" Hey, there's 2 already in your thread! Good call! | |
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| | dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| said by jmcgeejr :The comment on Aerial drops is such a bogus in WA here most of our stuff is all underground. Verizon comes in and runs the fiber, they have a very efficient team that does it to might I add. No, that's actually a very legitimate point and one I'd not really considered- running aerial is going to be a lot cheaper than buried fiber. He didn't say all of Verizon's plant is ariel, only most of it- I'm sure they are running buried fiber in places, with most being aerial. | |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | isnt buried pretty easy too? i thought the telco conduate that held their current wiring was oversized just for the purpose of network improvements allowing upgrades with minimal bulldozer work.
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA
| Re: isnt buried pretty easy too? It depends on the construction, I suppose- in newer burials there's probably room, but older ones may be different... so areas that have been buried from the start are probably worse off than those that started out aerial and were buried more recently. (New construction is best, obviously) | |
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| Re: isnt buried pretty easy too? It would neat if posters had a clue about what they are trying to talk about. It is spelled "conduit". It sounds like what you are talking about are duct runs between manholes. These are great for pulling cables in cities and towns but duct runs don't go to homes. They are used to feed distribution sites. So, if you want to provide FTTH you are going to be burying/hanging fiber. | |
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD
1 edit | Verizon ran new conduit in MD to house the fiber. Besides, it's all pull-through. It's not like they're digging a continuous trench. | |
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OSUGoose
join:2007-12-27
Columbus, OH
clubs: | Re: isnt buried pretty easy too? and alot of that depends on what type of fiber there using, sounds like its a lil cheeper to bore conduit then ppull unarmored fiber, that to trench for armored fiber. | |
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| Corydon
Cultivant son jardin
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join:2008-02-18
Denver, CO
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·Comcast
| Re: I am a Qwest Customer-Unfortuneatly Yup...I live here in Qwest's home town of Denver. I also live in an older neighborhood (many houses built ~100 years ago). It's a pretty well-off neighborhood, with median home prices above $300k and lots of fairly young professional families. prime territory for their newest stuff, right?
Nope...Qwest won't touch my neighborhood with their new DSL service.
And it's not a question of buried drops...everything from the power lines to the telco lines to the cable lines is run from the same poles running down the alleys. All aerial drops.
To be honest, running FTTP is pretty much the only thing that could get me to consider switching from Comcast. I have no desire to attach a satellite dish to my house. And even if the new offering were available in my neighborhood, the higher prices and lack of upstream pretty much kill the deal for me.
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| Honestly it's not about cherry picking. The FTTN launch started with ATM remote terminals. They are much easier to upgrade that the CO is. Which if you live in an old neighboordhood chances are you're connected to the CO directly. In order to provide the new speeds to people that are connected directly to the CO requires a major overhaul. They have picked starting points close to existing fiber and have been running it from RT to RT. The've also been installing new DSLAMS in areas where the was previously no internet offering from Qwest. I'm in the same boat, only have 1.5 available, but I've been told they want to upgrade the CO eventually so they can offer the new speeds to a whole lot more customers. The strategy makes sense to me from a cost standpoint. | |
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD
| VA-DC-MD = buried FTTH In the DC/Baltimore area, a large number of neighborhoods (everything built around the mid-70's or later) are buried and Verizon spent alot of time digging. The only aerial runs I notice are along main roads feeding the neighborhoods. More excuses from Qwest. | |
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| Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: VA-DC-MD = buried FTTH add in DE, PA and NJ for buried verizon. oh and dont forget verizon pulling FiOS in NYC.
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kyler13
Is your fiber grounded?
join:2006-12-12
Arnold, MD | Re: VA-DC-MD = buried FTTH That's not fair. Doesn't NYC use the city-wide sewer system to run utilities?  | |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Corona, NY
1 edit | Re: VA-DC-MD = buried FTTH Nah, that's Google | |
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mackdaddy058
join:2006-01-10
Peterborough, ON
2 edits | Future Proof... my @$$ What about having 4 HDTVs in one household. A decent bitrate would be on the order of 18-20Mbps. Now if all four TVs are watching an HD channel at the same time that's 72-80Mbps just for IPTV. Add on a 10-20Mbs internet connection and the average household is going to require approximately 100Mbps. How is Qwest future proofing their infrastucture with 35Mbps head room???
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BortB25
join:2004-02-28 | Still waiting on fiber in St. Paul, MN I hear parts of Minneapolis have the 20meg and 12meg. I will be switching to Comcast soon if I don't see any upgrades in this area. The max I can get is 1.5/896k currently. I have been on this for several years. | |
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join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA | Re: Still waiting on fiber in St. Paul, MN Isn't the Minneapolis/St. Paul area where Comcast has brought out downstream DOCSIS 3 and 50mbps? You'd think Qwest would be more proactive in rolling out ADSL2+ to compete there. (Or maybe they've given up?) | |
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join:2004-02-28
| Re: Still waiting on fiber in St. Paul, MN Yes we have 50/5 here from Comcast along with their 6/384 and 8/768 packages which I hear will soon go to 12 and 16. We also have the wifi network in Minneapolis that covers about 60 square miles. Qwest is loosing a lot of landline customers here to Comcast also. Triple Play is seems to be pretty popular with Comcast. | |
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artisticcheese
join:2004-11-09
Carrollton, TX | Majority of Texas cables are underground This is BS, Texas was a play ground for Verizon for both their FIOS Internet and TV. And majority of areas have cables run underground, including my house. | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Fredericksburg, TX | Re: Majority of Texas cables are underground Second that. Buried cable out to my VZ Texas landline, though OTOH no DSL, let alone FiOS. But still Qwest is caught on this one... | |
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raptor1418
Premium
join:2002-12-03
Denver, CO
 ·magicjack.com
 ·Mesa Networks
·Comcast
| Former Qwest Customer When I was a Qwest customer in Longmont I remember my DSL service being somewhat nice for that day in age. All lines were buried and if I remember correctly I would get about 1.5M/1M on average. Only ever had 2 problems and they were resolved quickly with pretty painless time on the phone. Both issues were not issues at the house.
Now I have moved closer to Denver, live in a neighbor hood that is much newer, all lines are buried and I can't get DSL service that is even close to what I could have gotten when I lived in Longmont.
So unless they upgrade the DSL in the neighborhood I will not be moving off of comcast.
It almost seems like they want to corner themselves out of business. | |
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bent
not broken
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join:2004-10-04
Longmont, CO
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·Comcast Formerly ..
| Re: Former Qwest Customer Guess what? It still is 1.5 in Longmont. My PRI, my business DSL, my home internet, none of them belong to Qwest. I hate sending my telecom money (about $2k/mo) out of state, but damnit, Qwest just doesn't compete. Not even close in most cases.
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funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC
·Verizon Online DSL
·Skype
1 edit | Qwest seems to be the leading provider of B.S. Excuses Look at Qwest's Map (the red icons are POP cities): »www.qwest.com/about/qwest/network/
Now look at Verizon's FIOS:
»/gmaps/fios
These are the same areas in most cases.
In Portland Oregon, we have neighborhoods that are underground and neighborhoods that are served only by poles. In many cases, we have poles only on collector roads and underground utilities within the housing tracts. My neighborhood is like that, and Verizon dug up every yard (except for my street, damn it!, we got missed due to construction cancellation due to rain and they never finished it).
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| dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| The Qwest map of their backbone has little or no relevance with regard to the choice between FTTH and FTTP deployment. The trunks between the serving CO and the nearest POP isn't the problem; it's getting from the customer premise to the CO that is the challenge. | |
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funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC | Re: Qwest seems to be the leading provider of B.S. Excuses Again, the red icons are POP cities ... so ignore the other colors and lines. | |
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Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| Re: Qwest seems to be the leading provider of B.S. Excuses said by funchords :Again, the red icons are POP cities ... so ignore the other colors and lines. And again- the location of POP sites aren't very relevant to the discussion of FTTH vs FTTP. | |
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FTTH Council
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| Verizon has plenty of buried FTTH Verizon has about 2/3rds of their FTTH deployment aerial and 1/3rd of their deployments are buried - a large portion of Tampa FL is all buried. Yes, it is more expensive than aerial, but a lot less expensive than doing nothing and losing all your customers to emerging competition. | |
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Brendan
Warr Guitar is here
join:2000-07-14
Littleton, CO
| WooHoo! I received the mailer about two months ago, stating that the 12mbps service is available in my neighborhood (Marston, West Denver). Going to upgrade here in the coming months. Can't wait! I, personally, haven't had a problem with Qwest's services, though they aren't the quickest in deployment of new technologies. I'm currently using their 1.5/768 ADSL service, with a third party ISP.
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Stargate S G-1 And Atlantis Fan
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join:2000-11-09
14225-2105
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| less than a megabit up? oy vey. One of the things that is exciting me about moving into FiOS territory is the availability of a 20/20 package for SEMI-reasonable pricing. Sure, "they" all talk about the blazing speed that you see the photos and little videos of your loved ones; what they totally fail to tell you about is the 5+ minute wait to SEND all those meaty multimedia messages.
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Qwest Defends Not Running FTTH
Upload remains the same?