 
Chiyo
Save Me Konata-Chan
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join:2003-02-20
Minneapolis, MN
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April 11th, @09:27AM
| This is why qwest is failing They are too late, they think a small portion of bandwith 10 - 15MBPS per user is good enough? C'mon they are pushing IPTV + internet to a customer and that's all they get?
Comcast 16MBPS +
Verizon 50MBPS +
Cox 10MBPS +
everyone around them who they are competing against is giving faster and faster speeds and now qwest is just getting around to upgrading.
I also though Cherry Picking was illegal or just a really stupid move by alienating your customers?
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Rob
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
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| Re: This is why qwest is failing said by Chiyo  :They are too late, they think a small portion of bandwith 10 - 15MBPS per user is good enough? C'mon they are pushing IPTV + internet to a customer and that's all they get? AT&T is pushing 6megs. At least Qwest is a little faster.
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RadioDoc
Sortofadog
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
Chicago, IL | Re: This is why qwest is failing Six megs is the Internet access component. The VDSL sync rate is considerably higher than that.
That six, however, needs to double or triple.
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Rob
In Deo speramus
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
·Comcast
·AT&T Southeast
| Re: This is why qwest is failing said by RadioDoc :Six megs is the Internet access component. The VDSL sync rate is considerably higher than that. That six, however, needs to double or triple. Right, but regardless if the user is signing up for IPTV, they still get 6meg. It's not like they can use the "unused" bandwidth for their internet portion.
At least that's how I understand it.
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RadioDoc
Sortofadog
Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| Re: This is why qwest is failing In it's present incarnation, yes that's correct. But the IPTV bandwidth is not taken from the six megs dedicated to Internet access. Hopefully at some point they'll feel confident enough to (1) increase the Internet access allotment or (2) ditch the VDSL portion and run FTTH. It's a little early to predict what they'll do, and all eyes are still on Verizon's FiOS for guidance on how much consumer uptake there will be anyway.
ATT could do all Internet on these circuits. It's just a matter of setting the profile. That's not the point of it, though, so IPTV will continue to be front-and-center and Internet will continue to be the third child of the UVerse family.
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jinjimbob
Troy Mcclure
join:2001-11-13
Enumclaw, WA
·Qwest.net
| said by Chiyo :They are too late, they think a small portion of bandwith 10 - 15MBPS per user is good enough? C'mon they are pushing IPTV + internet to a customer and that's all they get? Comcast 16MBPS + Verizon 50MBPS + Cox 10MBPS + everyone around them who they are competing against is giving faster and faster speeds and now qwest is just getting around to upgrading. I also though Cherry Picking was illegal or just a really stupid move by alienating your customers? Too late, what about when Qwest DSL is our only choice . .. better late than never. | |
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| dare99me
join:2005-11-25
Red Bank, NJ | I think that Qwest is going to use FTTC,and VDSL in lower income areas. | |
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| openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL
·AT&T Southeast
·Mediacom
| said by Chiyo :I also though Cherry Picking was illegal or just a really stupid move by alienating your customers? That's why cablecos and telcos are pushing for franchise reform. They can't afford to ubiquitously deploy the same technology to the whole market. Nor should they have to. | |
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| dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| Qwest is failing? Somebody forgot to tell Wall Street:
»chart.finance.yahoo.com/c/2y/q/q
And which would alienate customers more- offering a service where they can expect some kind of ROI, or offering it to no one because they can't afford to lose money deploying a new serice in sparcely populated, unprofitable areas? | |
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| dmconwa
join:2007-04-19
Phoenix, AZ
·Qwest.net
| I work in the Qwest Community Developer group where we work with new single family home developments exclusively. Since we've started offering speeds higher than 1.5M about 3 years ago the take rate for our higher tier is less than 20%.
The majority of people in these new developments, the wealthy, as stated earlier don't have the need for more than that at this point. It's not as if our premiere tier is overpriced either at $34.99 per month. Obviously those of us on this forum are bandwidth happy and want as much as we can get our hands on, but don't be foolish enough to think that we're even close to being the majority.
Even at the FTTH deployment we have in Utah where customers 5M service is paid for as part of their HOA dues. We have a 10% take rate for the 10M which is $14.99 more a month. | |
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i5050MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| FTTW? "It looks like the deployments will be very selective -- the telco pushing for "franchise reform" that will allow it to deploy FTTH only to a limited number of profitable neighborhoods."
Sheesh! Why not just call it FTTW? (Fiber To The Wealthy)
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| GhostDoggy
join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA
| Re: FTTW? I have no problem with anyone targeting consumers with enough money to cover the cost of delivering the goods and or services. Sh!t, welfare recipients will be complaining the same thing for Lamborghini and Ferrari next.
And if you think you can do a better job, show me what you got. Seriously, its easy to b!tch about the other guy when no one is calling you on your abilities. | |
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join:2005-05-11
Duluth, GA | Re: FTTW? Oops, I guess what he was asking for was FTTW: Fiber To The Welfare.  | |
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Karl Bode
News Guy
join:2000-03-02 | Re: FTTW? LOLZ! You get on with your bad self and smack down that guy concerned about even deployment of telecom services! | |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | Not so true ask Comcast alot of people for some reason that live at poverty level have cable(gold pk) I have no clue why | |
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join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR
| Re: FTTW? said by odreian615 :Not so true ask Comcast alot of people for some reason that live at poverty level have cable(gold pk) I have no clue why LOL, I worked at a place once that built cable equipment. The only people there that had cable in their own homes? The janitors. | |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| said by odreian615 :Not so true ask Comcast alot of people for some reason that live at poverty level have cable(gold pk) I have no clue why two words "illegal" and "cable" 
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join:2006-03-01
Perris, CA | Re: FTTW? Amen Brother .I ask anyone on this forum if they were the ones running the show if they would do it any other way ( considering also the company's financial situation)  | |
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i5050MbSoon
Formerly TwoKDialup
Premium
join:2002-06-07
Coloma, MI
| said by GhostDoggy :.... And if you think you can do a better job, show me what you got. Seriously, its easy to b!tch about the other guy when no one is calling you on your abilities. If our nations power companies used the telcos redline business model, I'd have to power my Comcast cable modem with a Honda generator.
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join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL | Re: FTTW? Your broadband connection is not a utility (yet) and shouldn't be treated as such. It is a luxury. | |
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odreian615
join:2006-01-18
Chicago, IL | Qwest have no other choice but to cherry pick seriously people in qwestland are spread all over the place except in like parts of AZ and WA | |
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| wstwrdho
join:2007-03-15
Riverton, UT
·Qwest.net
| Re: Qwest have no other choice but to cherry pick Yep, it all comes down to ROI. Its either that or BK. Those are the rules and Qwest doesn't get any exceptions and neither does Comcast or Cox Or at&t or Insight or Verizon etc....... If the neighborhood can pay than any of the above mentioned companies will come play.
abade abade abade that's all folks. | |
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| | MeKuN
join:2004-07-21
Eugene, OR | Re: Qwest have no other choice but to cherry pick Should they deploy to a dense area of people or to people that live a mile apart from each other. | |
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| | | viperlmw
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join:2005-01-25
·Qwest.net
| Re: Qwest have no other choice but to cherry pick Yea, all the 'cherrypicking' apoplexy around here is really getting old. Most everyone who uses that term with Qwest doesn't live in Qwest territory, so they really don't have a clue. I live in a city of 3500 people, and is the largest city for 75 miles. Should I expect to see FTTP here? Probably not in my lifetime! Hell, Verizon has territory to the north that has no FIOS plans, either. Is that 'cherrypicking', or just thoughtful deployment? | |
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join:2004-01-26
Navarre, FL | They should deploy where the ROI is sufficient for Qwest to continue to function as a business. After all, they are a business and eventually have to turn a profit on their deployments. | |
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elister
join:2006-07-17
Seattle, WA | Its a start Ive been using their 7mb service for years now, initially had some problems with their DNS early on, but those have long been resolved. Very happy with the service, so they best step up and upgrade my neighborhood before I switch to Comcast. | |
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raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA | Nice to see our tax dollars being put to good use Qworst just won a piece of a multi-billion dollar telcom contract from the DoD. Perhaps they now feel flush with cash to build out, albeit with taxpayer funding... | |
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| dynodb
Premium,VIP
join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
| Re: Nice to see our tax dollars being put to good use Where did you get that the expansion they're talking about would be taxpayer funded? If you're equating selling a service to the federal government with a taxpayer subsidy, you're... misguided.
Most of Qwest's RT's are set up such that they only offer 1.5M. They've aggressively expanded the number of RT's in their network over the past couple years; now they're talking about providing more bandwidth so they can better compete. Doesn't seem terribly complicated to me. | |
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| | raye
Premium
join:2000-08-14
Orange, CA
| Re: Nice to see our tax dollars being put to good use Qwest has been cash poor for many years now. The new contract will allow them to be flush with cash that they can use for other things.
It is a contract that they will have to provide services for; but the sevices are for the federal govt/DoD. Thus taxpayer funds are being used to help prop up a company that was dying on the vine. | |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | great Great, less ambitious, AND less competitive than Uverse. Again, Qwest's business model is sitting on USF. | |
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MarkieMark
@iauq.com
| Get your facts straight! You all really need to get your facts straight. Do a lot more research before spouting off the speculations I have read in this blog. This is exactly the kind of information that should be relegated to the "inquirer". You have no clue what it takes to build the infrastructure to support your 1.5M DSL. Do you think it's easy to bring a company out of potential ruin and return it to profitability as we did in 2006? The speed of DSL, VDSL etc...will be brought up along with the need of the market. I suppose you think it would be a economically sound decision to offer 15M internet only DSL right now. Who would buy it??? Do more thinking and less speculating. Oh and get a life, get off your couch. | |
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Denver Insider
@mindspring.com
| Qwest Promises...never delivers Qwest has made promises for years and never delivers....
Of course, like their earnings projections their product performance always
falls short of their PR statements.
Time to bypass the Telcos, they have been in bed & greenmailing the
FCC for decades. Without FCC regulations insuring their stranglehold on
unknowing citizens across the nation their "DO Nothing" guaranteed $20 Billion a year would evaporate.
Like the Oil and Coal Consortium it is time for them to GO.
They should only be HUMP carriers .....relegated to long haul traffic only. | |
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