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| jimk
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join:2006-04-15
Raleigh, NC
 ·RoadRunner Cable
 ·AT&T Southeast
 ·ICDSoft
 ·Vonage
| Re: Wholesale? said by wifi4milez  :As much as carriers (PR and marketing people) would like us to believe, NOBODY cares if they can get "all services on one bill". If I am already paying (fill in carrier name here) for home services, the only reason I would consider allowing them to provide me with wireless is for a significant discount. Paying more money for the "convenience" of having everything on one bill doesnt cut it for most people. This is especially true when you can just sign up for auto payment from your checking account or credit card, or you can use your bank's online bill pay and take care of all of your bill payments from one screen. I could see it as being an advantage if you had to worry about dealing with piles of paper and sending checks, but not for anyone who does their banking online. | |
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join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA
| Re: Probably no markup... Qwest is all about the bundle discounts so I'd be shocked if they didn't offer any if you put VZW service on your Qwest bill. Alot of people like the convenience of one bill even if it had no discounts (and service didn't cost more to be on one bill). For me, it doesn't matter. I know what to pay each month and I'm content with how my bills are arranged. | |
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| | hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Pivot failed due to the companies did not promote it. If they did it was hidden online or in some corner at a walk-in service center. They didn't tell many people about it at all.
Also when you did go to sign up the cable company could not port your number for some reason from Sprint to their system and would give you the run around. It was more on the Sprint end with that though as sprint would say it wasn't on their end and they never heard of Pivot before. | |
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join:2007-11-03
Kansas City, MO
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·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Probably no markup... And if a current Qwest wireless customer walks into a Verizon Wireless store to change over to the new plan later this year (or get service on the current plan), the VZW store employee will be as clueless as the Sprint employee was. There are myriad reasons why Pivot did not succeed, but many of the possible sources of failure can also be found in the Q/VZW agreement. The inconsistent retail experience is certainly one of them. Implications to Q are much larger, however: Pivot started from zero and Q from something a lot closer to a million subscribers. One question for the group: Can Qwest undercut the $99 all you can eat voice plan from VZW? If unlimited is where the growth is happening, how can Qwest respond? | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Probably no markup... Chances are the customer will have to sign-up at Qwest and they'll do the paper work and go from there.
A college (University of Toledo) does that here. They resell VZ but they just put the plans in their name and pass the discount onto the student or employee. You have to wait on your phone to be mailed but you still get a nice discount due to buying power. | |
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join:2007-11-03
Kansas City, MO
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Probably no markup... so Qwest could sell the same VZ wireless unlimited plan for $92 or $93? and that would be better than a Sprint stand alone unlimited plan by how much (it's actually negative) and Virgin Mobile unlimited, and TracFone unlimited? Wouldn't anything below $99 undercut the VZ retail stores? Can Qwest undercut handset prices - it doesn't appear to be the case. I'm missing the value proposition - one bill?
To the Pivot critics, the product had many issues from the start but the biggest one was systems. Not just the interfaces, but the training. I think Q will face this if they actively try to market the VZW service - Q will likely be responsible for entering orders for wireless service into VZW, and the interfaces and screens will be different. Rate plan migration of the existing base will also be different - I have not compared the old and new plans, but I would be shocked if they were similar.
If I were Q I would focus on two plans: $99 all you can eat for the naked DSL folks (although no femto yet), and a low end plan with a free phone. Skip the rest - too much hassle to service, and not enough scale. | |
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| travelguy
join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM
| said by iansltx :I heard that Qwest\VZW would be Verizon-branded, with no Qwest branding anywhere, Yep - I received a big Qwest flyer in the mail this past weekend with a couple of pages promoting Verizon phones and service. To me it looked like your bog standard sales agent arrangement. Didn't pay any attention to the pricing though. | |
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| Nick125
join:2004-03-08
Albuquerque, NM | I'd doubt that they would go through the hassle of flashing the Sprint devices for Verizon. Not only would that require actually flashing the devices, it would also require Verizon to allow the devices on their network. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY | That explains it Now I know why Qwest's wireless site was down.
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | Qwest Reselling Veriizon? One telco reselling the competition's service. Someone's going to get screwed in the end and it's not going to be Qwest or Verizon. | |
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| hottboiinnc
ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH
·buckeye cable
| Re: Qwest Reselling Veriizon? just to let you know. They do not compete. they are actually split into their own service areas and do not overlap.
The only thing they competed on was Wireless which will be changing.
It would be different if they serviced the same landline area and just resold that. | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Qwest Reselling Veriizon? said by hottboiinnc :just to let you know. They do not compete. they are actually split into their own service areas and do not overlap. I know that their service areas are for the most part distinct so there is no real competition for the same customer between them. However speaking in general terms both are telcos companies so therefor they are "the competition" within the industry. My point is that no telco has ever had the customers interests at heart, let alone two of them working together. | |
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ME
join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH | Re: Qwest Reselling Veriizon? and just one other thing- VZW and VZ are seperate. VZW is a joint partner with VodaFone in VZW. So its still not really "the competition". | |
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cdru
Go Colts
Premium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN | Re: Qwest Reselling Veriizon? Sigh. Never mind. | |
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Re: Qwest Reselling Veriizon?
and just one other thing- VZW and VZ are seperate. VZW is a joint partner with VodaFone in VZW. So its still not really "the competition".
thanks, Captain Obvious. | |
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SterlingJ85
Obama 2008
join:2000-11-19
Millville, NJ
·PHONE POWER
·TowerStream
| Qwest... Why oh why did they sell off their network assets and spectrum. Qwest had a GREAT wireless network (where they offered service at least).. If they had spent money upgrading to third-generation networks like Verizon/Sprint... they could dominate the areas they serve instead of just bleeding landline customers and watching their revenue tank. $5 a month markup versus people having full plans?
I think it was a stupid bullshit move, and seeing as how they have no intentions yet of providing real VDSL or FTTP/FTTH.. I really am struggling to see how they think they will ever survive. Their cash flow is already pretty crappy.
If it wasn't for their IP network size/revenues, i'm not even sure they could stay in business at this point. | |
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MNTWINSFAN
@comcast.net | Question Hello!
I still have a VZW account open.
Could I take my VZW account and transfer it over to Qwest in October? (So it will bundle with my bill) or do I need to start a new VZW account at Qwest?
Thanks you for your help.
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Qwest Starts Reselling Verizon Wireless
Some info on Verizon under Qwest
