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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs: | Way to go Judge! A win for the man! Or in this case, Woman!  | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Way to go Judge! Damn straight...I hope she wins on her lawsuit too.
As much as I may be against ripping copywritten material, I'm also against the tactics used by RIAA/MPAA.
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join:2002-04-10 | Re: Way to go Judge! ... You mean the act of making available without actually sharing and then slapping people with 3000 dollar pay or be sued letters?...... | |
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join:2005-06-06
Alexandria, VA
| Re: Way to go Judge! said by jc100  :... You mean the act of making available without actually sharing and then slapping people with 3000 dollar pay or be sued letters?...... The act of making available???? come on!!!! Why they are making available to begin with? I'm not for copyright violations but I despite the way RIAA has handled this issue and they should be punished as deserved.
We are all responsible for our actions. Music is an art. And the artist that bring that enjoyment to our life should be compensated, or if you prefer to be a leach then you can listen to the radio for your fee enjoyment. But if you want the art for your enjoyment at anytime, it seems fair to compensate the artist. Overprice? maybe in the CD era... but know you can buy singles online... and if you have a problem with their pricing and business model you can always | |
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join:2002-04-10
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| Re: Way to go Judge! I'm not saying there isn't intent to share when one makes available. However, intent is NOT breaking the law. I might intend to jaywalk when the light turns green, telling buddies lets run across the street. Lets see if we can make it. That's not illegal. The same goes for someone making an item available. Should stores and drug companies be sued because they make ephedrine available in cough medicines? People use it to make meth. That's not it's intended purposes but hey, that's what happens with it. Just because people make an item available, knowing someone might download, doesn't mean people have. It would be like assuming all cough medicine purchasers are going to make drugs versus curing a cold. It's a possibility, but you can't prove it one way or another unless you see it happening. | |
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join:2002-04-10
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Way to go Judge! Easily, they have their share file visible but the RIAA has not proved violations took place. Read above for my example. More or less, the RIAA is clicking on folders, and seeing if they CAN download. They are not establishing anyone has, according to recent reports. Therefore, just because you give someone the ability (purposeful or not) to browse your folder, doesn't mean anyone has or will. See my example for how that comes into play. | |
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join:2002-04-10 | Re: Way to go Judge! Welcome to the land of the RIAA / MPAA where proof is something only little guys need. For the rest, proof smoof. | |
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join:2002-03-01
Irving, TX
| It's good that someone actually took the time to fight the lawsuit instead of paying the fine. It sucks that she didn't get a nice payday like her lawyer did, hopefully she will on the racketeering charges. Lawyers are gonna seen that dollar amount and make the RIAA and MPAA their new honeypots. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone class action coming soon. I do believe the RIAA & MPAA have legal standing to protect their copyrights, but shaking people down for the amounts there were was just an abuse of the legal system. | |
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
Premium
join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX | Re: Way to go Judge! That's not really a payday for the lawyer. 3 years for 108k. | |
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join:2003-10-14
Salt Lake City, UT | Re: Way to go Judge! I doubt this was the only case the lawyer worked on for 3 years. | |
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RARPSL
join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY
| said by soothsayer15 :I do believe the RIAA & MPAA have legal standing to protect their copyrights They have no copyrights to protect - They are just a Hired Gun that work for the actual (or at least the supposed) copyright owners since the copyright owners do not want to do it themselves. Using the RIAA/MPAA allows them to be at hands distance from the actions of the **AA Gestapo and can (like on Mission Impossible) be able to disavow their actions. | |
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SRFireside
join:2001-01-19
Houston, TX
·RoadRunner Cable
| Re: Way to go Judge! Technically the RIAA isn't suing anybody, but it's the record labels that are members of said organization that are doing the suing. Also said record labels do tend to own many copyrights of the artists they represent, which is another problem in the music industry altogether. To sum it up it is the record label's job to protect their artist so the "RIAA" doing the suing is entirely appropriate.
Of course none of this includes the fact that the one main source of exploitation and robbery of these artists are the record companies themselves. | |
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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA
2 edits | Need prison time... ...for the RIAA racketeers who engage in extortion, bribery and abuse of process. | |
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join:2005-01-07
Woodland Hills, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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2 edits | Way to go! Hopefully this will be just the beginning for the RIAA. If they thought the $108,000 was a lot (and obviously they did cause they tried to chisel her on that) wait to the jury gets ahold of the malicious prosecution case of hers. If the RIAA was smart--and somehow I get the feeling they think they're too good for everyone, and therefore not too smart--they'd offer her a few hundred thousand right now to get rid of her lest they get hit for several million at trial!
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hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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join:2005-06-29
clubs: | hummm none of the supporters of the riaa/mpaa have chimed in yet intresting. | |
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funchords
Hello
Premium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Washington, DC | Wrong Headline... Should it be "RIAA Finally Reimburses Oregon Mom $108,000"? | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
1 edit | What will be interesting... To see if the Direct TV will be pulled into this with the RIAA if their is a class action suit. As you will recall Direct TV was doing the same thing to people who had purchased flash card devices. They automatically assumed that if you purchased one of these devices from certain websites you where trying to rip-off their signal. Like the RIAA they would extort payments out of people who where using these card flashers for perfectly legal things.
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Corona, NY | Re: Wrong Headline... Way to go!!! I applaud this woman for actually having the backbone to stand up to the **AA's! As others have said, let's hope this is just the tip of the iceberg for the MAFIAA. Hehe, looks like they bit off a bit more than they could chew........ | |
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Kevin83165
join:2002-03-31
Herrin, IL | re: DirecTV Yea I am surprised that there isn't some money hungry lawyer going after Dave on that one. Suing people because they purchased a smart card reader knowing they are too poor to fight back. | |
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tcope
Premium
join:2003-05-07
Sandy, UT | RIAA does not own the courts? I thought the RIAA owned the courts and if you wanted to use them you have to pay the RIAA a fee to get the DMA protection removed. Course... your only "renting" the courts even then. | |
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jcurrier
@comcast.net
| Good for the innocent! This is a win for the truly innocent.
I am amazed how illegal shares find this as a win for everyone. You have the balls to steal music but you don't have the balls to walk into Macy's and steal something. You could always just tell the Police, If they would just make better clothes we would pay for them. But because they suck so bad and they don't deserve to get paid for we still really wanted them so we stole them instead. | |
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biff420
Premium
join:2002-01-26
Richmond, CA
·AT&T Yahoo
| Re: Good for the innocent! said by jcurrier :
This is a win for the truly innocent.
I am amazed how illegal shares find this as a win for everyone. You have the balls to steal music but you don't have the balls to walk into Macy's.. blah blah blah....
 Not everyone who's applauding this victory is
a P2P shares (snicker) Some of us stopped P2P when it
was decided it wasn't legal. The Macy's shoplifting
comparison is so old it's not worth debating.
Shares huh? LMAO | |
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| NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
| The law has to prove you actually stole something from Macy's before they can fine, and imprison you.
In this case, the RIAA was unable to prove that the woman they targeted for extortion had actually engaged in unauthorized distribution of their property. They are now having to pay the woman's legal fees. Fighting an unwarranted charge takes money, as well as backbone. The RIAA demands $3,000 settlements precisely because that is much cheaper than fighting the claim in court ($108,000 in this case). Most people just settle. She didn't. But she had to pay her attorneys. Court ruled that her accusers have to cover that cost.
This is not a victory for "illegal file sharers". This is a victory for those wrongfully accused of illegally sharing files. It means that the RIAA has to "go back to the drawing board", and figure out how to obtain the proof of illegal activity that they need to win in court.
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~Oh Lord, why have you come
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Pizz
Hi
join:2000-10-27
Astoria, NY | CASE LAW! Now other people who are being sued wrongfully by these 'mobsters' - can now cite this case  | |
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Ouiyouiowme
@comcast.net
| Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha........ Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I am SOOOOO rolling on the florr and laughing my #ss off. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA | |
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Pv8man
join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN | FINALLY!! THE LAWFUL WON FOR A CHANGE, INSTEAD OF THE UNLAWFUL
F**K THE mafIAA
I guess this is one judge that couldn't be bribed. | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Hold On a $econd This damaged moms throughout the country, not just this one particular mother. The RIAA's reckless attacks and wanton greed surely caused undue emotional stress to mothers, and potential mothers, all across the land. The RIAA should fork over $108,000 for each mother in the US. A settlement offer for a lump sum of $10 million should suffice. I will put up a website to make it easy for the RIAA to make their payment. In the future, whenever they wrongfully accuse another person, they can simply use this convenient website to make their settlement payments.
Dear RIAA,
I have asked your law firm to forward this letter to you before I sue your worthless, no-talent hides. After gathering my thoughts, I have decided that you have caused unnecessary fear and discomfort on me 287 times through your own stupidity and unconscionable actions over the last few months.
The reason I am sending this letter before filing suit is to grant you the wonderful privilege of settling this as soon as possible. At an estimated cost of $108,000 per cold sweat episode, this comes to a gazillion dollars. We can just call it a million and drop this whole thing and get on with our lives once again.
Meet me at Starbucks with a sea bag full of twenties next week or I shall continue to taunt you with my stupidity.
Thank you,
Dr. Clement Okon of the National Bank of Nigeria
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NowVOIP
In the beginning there was POTS
join:2006-03-05
Round Lake, IL | Re: Hold On a $econd ROFLMAO! | |
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NJxxxJon
something good. or your mom.
Premium
join:2005-10-22
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| My Thoughts I still think there is undercover people trying to chat with me on fileshare service to throw and exe file my way to connect and get info on whats my computer. I occasaionly get questions online on chats - so I dont share. 
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blazecom
join:2005-12-05
Columbia, MO
·CenturyTel Inc.
| GO MOM! LOL! It is about time someone did something to this RETARDED "ASSociation" notice my emphasis... This is exactly why music costs so much now, because they want to make a dime everywhere and are not happy with free publicity.
Many people download music, then if they like the band they buy the CD....
Not to mention all of the "rights" money they get from movies/commercials.
They don't need any more money....
Chris | |
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jerseyjoe123
join:2008-04-28
Picton, ON
| The mafIAA is just out of control I hope she nails the mafIAA to the wall!!
I think that this is the same woman whose children were targeted by the mafIAA, after she refused to allow their lawyers to question/interrogate her kids. One of the mafIAA lawyers actually called her 10 year old daughter's school, and tried to trick the school staff into letting them talk to the girl by claiming to be a family member.
That is lower than low, and goes to show that these morons need to be taken down. | |
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RIAA Finally Pays Oregon Mom $108,000
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