 TomekPremium join:2002-01-30 Valley Stream, NY | "Security" of cloud Since now everything is moved to cloud, that gives government or well connected individuals/corporations wide access to everything there. I would stick to my local hard drive -- Semper Fi | |
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 |  | | Re: "Security" of cloud And more of a reason to start hosting your own email servers. | |
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 |  |  FBGuyPremium join:2005-03-19 Evanston, IL | Re: "Security" of cloud good luck keeping them off the blacklist | |
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 |  FBGuyPremium join:2005-03-19 Evanston, IL | Re: "Security" of cloud email has ALWAYS been in the cloud. | |
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 |  |  TomekPremium join:2002-01-30 Valley Stream, NY | Re: "Security" of cloud said by FBGuy:email has ALWAYS been in the cloud. Not necessarily correct statement. Internal email is far from cloud. It is relatively new thing to use "off-site" hosted email. So what you thought was "internal", it is now on mercy of host company.
Own email server would allow to safeguard information better, and you don't have to "protect" and "retain" for gov't use -- Semper Fi | |
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| Re: "Security" of cloud said by Tomek:said by FBGuy:email has ALWAYS been in the cloud. Not necessarily correct statement. Internal email is far from cloud. It is relatively new thing to use "off-site" hosted email. So what you thought was "internal", it is now on mercy of host company. Clouds can be internal, too.
said by Tomek:Own email server would allow to safeguard information better, and you don't have to "protect" and "retain" for gov't use Wanna bet? | |
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| Re: "Security" of cloud said by Tomek:Own email server would allow to safeguard information better, and you don't have to "protect" and "retain" for gov't use that is not true at all. there are regulations that state what you have to retain and protect. | |
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 |  |  |  |  | | Re: "Security" of cloud said by FBGuy:there are regulations that state what you have to retain and protect. ...if you're hosting email for others--as opposed to just yourself. | |
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...if you're hosting email for others--as opposed to just yourself.
If YOU are involved in activities related to SARBOX etc. type regulations CORPORATE or PERONAL email servers and email are subject to these regulations if it pertains to the regulated activity. Period.
If your hosting your OWN personal email server and it contains no activity related to these regulated activities, then you don't have to follow it... ONE EMAIL from that account on that server and POOF! Your in for a world of pain. -- 1311393600 - Back to Black.....Black....Black.... | |
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 |  me1212 join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | Re: Most transparent Administration... Hope and change = more of the same. | |
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 |  CXM_Splicera more sensible viewPremium join:2011-08-11 NYC kudos:1 | Maybe he meant that WE would be more transparent. | |
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 | | The Cloud The Feds need a wiretap or warrant? Just ignore and circumvent the law! I saw this coming when the Tech firms began to try to sell "The Cloud" mindset to people/customers. Seems to me that lots of Federal pressure being put on the tech industry to just be their R and D lackeys and provide easy access to products and services being sold. Bottom line, if you connect to the Internet, use a computer or ANY device that can record what you type or input, it is available to the Feds whether its legal or not and there isn't a damned thing you can do about it short of destroying the device or doing a comprehensive data wipe if they choose to come for your information. Yeah, take the Feds to the kangaroo courts to protect your "Constitutional Rights" and you will ignored or (insert any excuse/reason). That's the reality of this U S of A | |
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now i'll have to learn all about »www.torproject.org/
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 |  | | Re: time for tor You could always try 'Hushmail' which uses PGP encryption (assuming Hushmail hasn't been 'hushed'. | |
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It was all over weigh lifting boadrs etc. Apparently steroid sellers used hush mail heavily. BTW paypal was a main stay of the gambling world at one point before it was sold off. Same problem the Feds started looking to closely to what was going on. | |
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 | | Gmail Although I am sure this is not exclusive to Gmail, I plan to ditch all free webmail providers I use this year and migrate to a different solution. Just not sure what yet. Perhaps I will stand up my own email server. | |
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 |  NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR kudos:1 | Re: GmailReally? Who you going to communicate with? Yourself and only others on your own email server? Think about it a bit more.
Only way to prevent peeping tom government is end to end encryption proven to not have a master key.
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 DominokatHiPremium join:2002-08-06 Boothbay, ME kudos:2 | For those of you who still think the US is still a democracy. Keep dreaming. While the government spews "spreading democracy" we are drifting further away from it. | |
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 |  pawpaw join:2004-05-05 Greenville, SC | Re: For those of you who still think We have plenty of democracy, maybe too much.
What we need is freedom. | |
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We are almost a democracy in the same way the people's republic of china is, at this point.
said by pawpaw:What we need is freedom. Yes. | |
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 |  NanoprobeCrunching in memory of MomPremium join:2003-05-11 Crab Nebula kudos:2 | said by Dominokat:the US is still a democracy. Keep dreaming. While the government spews "spreading democracy" we are drifting further away from it. Welcome to the new America comrade. | |
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 | | Nothing There's nothing that we can do about this. Absolutely NOTHING. | |
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 | | Geee... Welcome to Amerika... It's spent the last 20 years or more turning into a fascist state and people are just noticing now? A little too late folks, all you can do now is bend over and enjoy what the government gives you. | |
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 | | China Welcome to the US of China where the government spy's on your every move. | |
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 | | Guilty until innocence is proven All this allows is a fishing expedition without warrant. Citizens may as well be living in China for all the so called freedom they get from the US government. | |
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 axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC | No Fly List proves we need courts to review everything If I end up on the "No Fly List", because some government contractor wrote a buggy program to automate terrorist detection by data mining, my freedom is being violated. "No Fly List" doesn't have a court process, does it? I wouldn't get summoned to court where I have a chance to disprove the flawed evidence against me.
Until injustices like the "No Fly List", payment processor embargoes, and DNS seizures are ended, we must insist that government respect our Fourth Amendment rights. Actually we have to insist on it anyways, but these show it's a real danger to liberty and not simply theoretical. | |
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 |  |  NOYBSt. John 3.16Premium join:2005-12-15 Forest Grove, OR kudos:1 | Re: No Fly List proves we need courts to review everything And just exactly what will that do? | |
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 | | you can run but you can't hide Better to assume everything you put on a wire can be and probably is being intercepted. If you really have a secret, use the best encryption you can find and presume that by encrypting you will draw attention to your payload. Government for and by the People has perished, sometime back in the 20th century, probably around the time of Saint Reagan. There's certainly no turning back now. | |
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