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clubs: | To far behind already? I think we are to far behind to come back anytime soon. It would take many years to recover from this kind of position. | |
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| The FCC is either stupid, ignorant, or has other interests. Any of which is not a good mix.. Or maybe they're too swamped in other involvements, it would be nice to see a group dedicated to the broadband issue that is closely watched for bribes and IQ of what they actually are ment for
Actually, after seeing Their 'report' with the quote 'The U.S. is doing exceptionally well.', It's obvious they're stupid as hell, unless they based this on country's with OUT any infrastructure
But good luck
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| Re: To far behind already? said by rawgerz  :The FCC is either stupid, ignorant, or has other interests. Any of which is not a good mix.. Or maybe they're too swamped in other involvements, it would be nice to see a group dedicated to the broadband issue that is closely watched for bribes and IQ of what they actually are ment for Actually, after seeing Their 'report' with the quote 'The U.S. is doing exceptionally well.', It's obvious they're stupid as hell, unless they based this on country's with OUT any infrastructure But good luck Seems the FCC is all three, rawgerz. I still remember the information super bahn Gore was touting and promised in the early 90s (anyone else remember that?). My area (NJ) was supposed to part of the initial deployment schedules.. Millions on millions were promised 45Mg fiber by 2000 (est. 85M from the site below). NJ, 100% fiber by 2010. All to be paid for (and was) by higher rates, etc.. through deals with the FCC and government agencies that be.
If all that came through as promised, the US was supposed to be the leader in Broadband.
I often wondered what happened with that all.. and came across this site doing some research on it recently. I am not affiliated with them, or anything like that.. But found the background interesting enough to pass on, considering I clearly remember many of the milestones they spoke of. (Even so, the site wants you to buy their book, so take that for what it's worth).
The statement from the FCC just makes me go, "WTF are you talking about?".
Spin it, FCC. Spin it.
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| I don't think it would be that hard, but it would require steps that share-holders and free-market fans wouldn't like.
That would include government involvement in the infrastructure process, including setting deployment water-marks (and actually enforcing them), correcting the corruption in the USF system and perhaps expanding its function (not just eliminating it), and not kowtowing to telco & cable lobbyists at every turn.
None of that will ever happen, as the political system now serves the will of the largest incumbents, not the public. | |
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| Re: To far behind already? said by Karl Bode :I don't think it would be that hard, but it would require steps that share-holders and free-market fans wouldn't like. That would include government involvement in the infrastructure process, including setting deployment water-marks (and actually enforcing them), correcting the corruption in the USF system and perhaps expanding its function (not just eliminating it), and not cow-towing to telco & cable lobbyists at every turn. None of that will ever happen, as the political system now serves the will of the largest incumbents, not the public. Well said. | |
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join:2000-03-02 | Re: To far behind already? Also putting a technologist at the head of the FCC instead of an empty-headed think-tank deregulatory drone would be a good move as well. | |
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| Re: To far behind already? said by Karl Bode :Also putting a technologist at the head of the FCC instead of an empty-headed think-tank deregulatory drone would be a good move as well. I agree with everything you just said but I'm sure you also know that these things never gonna happen - unless we disband this rotten FCC and forget it forever. We need a completely different communication market approach.
Sorry, we tried this - during last decades it didn't work out, by now it's completely ridden by corruption. Kill it. | |
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clubs: | Re: To far behind already? i'm not sure about total disassemble #5..
But Serious Chances need to be made. I can agree to that.
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| Re: To far behind already? It is not just the FCC -try to place fiber in the ground and you have all local governments plus the EPA in your pocket- then the are the tree huggers 'who sometime are right' so it is hard to compare USA with third world or not where there are less hoops to jump thru.
Also USA got in this early so it is a replacement not new which means you pay for it twice. | |
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| said by Karl Bode :None of that will ever happen, as the political system now serves the will of the largest incumbents, not the public. It has for many years, as long as the 'incumbents' keep paying.....And as Clinton found out, foreign countries pay too for special favors.
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| said by Karl Bode :...would include government involvement... Good luck.
Our current government could't give a $#*$ about the 'people'. As long as businesses are putting the green where the politician's dog-dishes are, they will obediently play to the corporations' demands.
At this point in the game the only ones helping the people are themselves. By mass protests (already seen), billions of letters and petitions (already signed), and violent gatherings (still contained to Paris, but Im sure its on the way).
I don't know about you, but I think we need a change of adminstration. One that will not pat itself on the back for a job well done (or not done as the case may be).
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| Exactly, I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's too little, too late. Our digital future was sold out a long time ago.
When a group of people larger than the special interest groups decides to make an appearance and fight for us, only then will we bounce back but we will never catch up.
Money comes first, and people and the country's infrastructure comes 2nd.. or never
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| Re: To far behind already? That's right. Only when some company has a marvelous patent and stands to make a billion dollars overnight will the US see some real progress...until the CEO decides to retire with a multi-billion dollar package, and all the other top dogs take the money and run...
...then we will be back at the drawing board. The US is screwed, face it. Our politicians and greedy-ass corporations will forever sell us out for their own short term gains. We're a joke to the world and will never recover. | |
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| said by Dydion :...marvelous patent and stands to make a billion dollars overnight... Believe me, if something that miraculous was to be invented tomarrow... consumers wouldnt see it for at least another 3 decades.
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| What I'd like to see.. I'd like to see how penetration rates are per how many people and then give a percentage. Comparing a country the size of Ohio, to the whole United States isn't fair overall with our landmass.
Plus with cell phones, How many companies have service areas the size Cingular or Verizon do? I don't like the big company monopolies we have here, but you have to take these reports with a grain of salt.
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| Re: What I'd like to see.. Ouch: »Re: Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
It's kinda boring to see that you're posting the same old lies over and over again, even within an hour... 
So let me post the reality again:
it's not the subject we are talking about.
We understand that you have to work for that money you get from the cable company for being one of their astroturfs but unless you can come up with some true statement, take your stupid spin somewhere else, please.
It's well-known [b]how ridiculously the US stats are being compiled: like if there's at least one user with broadband - remember, in the US broadband is from ~256kbit/s unlike other countries - then FCC counts it as full ZIP CODE.
Of course, it serves nothing but the interests of the current incumbents, first adn foremost the monopoly-based cable industry.
Your stats are fake and deliberately made up to deceive the public.. | |
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| Re: What I'd like to see.. And any stat about "penetration" is irrelevant and is made to deceive the public.
Just because someone doesn't want it, doesn't mean it's not available to them...which is all these statistics describe...Americans not wanting it.
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| Re: What I'd like to see.. said by oliphant :And any stat about "penetration" is irrelevant and is made to deceive the public. You said "penetrate."
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| Re: What I'd like to see.. said by jimbo2150 :So did you hehehe I'm so cool... huhuhuh.
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| said by oliphant :And any stat about "penetration" is irrelevant and is made to deceive the public. Just because someone doesn't want it, doesn't mean it's not available to them...which is all these statistics describe...Americans not wanting it. Not that any of these stats actually matters anyway other than to fill the blank spaces in magazines or to give the fantabulous four a forum to call everyone astroturfers in place of cogent arguments.
That one article a couple months back really gave their lives purpose.
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| Populations Does this report really mean all that much? The US has 280 million people. The top two in the report don't have the land mass and their populations don't exceed 20 million even when they are combined together.
South Korea should be impressed though - getting 24.9% of 48 million people on broadband even if they don't possess as much land.
Also, how do you exceed 100% in penetration based on your population? Either all your people are on or they aren't. If people from other countries are using your service then it isn't part of your population, and if they have dual citizenship then isn't that part of your population? | |
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You mean someone tried to pick us up?
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| What's so bad? Seriously... what is so bad about US broadband? What *don't* we have that we need and allegedly need so badly, that others have?
I'm really getting tired of all these negative reports on "how far behind" the U.S. is. It's complete and utter B.S. It's Grass Is Greener Syndrome™ and nothing... NOTHING.... more.
The problem isn't tech or penetration. The only real problem we have is rampant monopolization in some areas. That needs to be addressed, for sure.
However... what CAN'T you or I do that we could if we were in, say, Japan? And no "download tentacle pr0n faster" isn't an answer. Speeds and rates are apples and oranges. | |
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| Re: What's so bad? "what CAN'T you or I do that we could if we were in, say, Japan?" Download animated pornography at incredible speeds, that's what.
Seriously, though, I think that when it's a slow newsday somebody at BBR says, "Well, time to dig up another story on how the U.S. lags the world in broadband."
Hell, we're not even #1 in the world in terms of literacy, and nobody seems too worked up about that. What good is 100% broadband penetration going to do you when you have a portion of the population that can't even read?
I don't take stuff like this too seriously; the truth is that some people just like to find a way to stir up the feces so they can then sit back and enjoy the smell. | |
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| Of course The heck with trying to get it to areas that can't get it, that just might cost too much money. Who cares if everyone can get broadband for a fair price or not. Like the companies are going to give a crap about the broadband stats of this country, if their pockets are full, they're happy.
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qdemn7
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| Ninth in Mobile Phone Penetration? In another measure of technology development, mobile phone penetration, the US has fallen to ninth in the world. 61% of the US population has a mobile phone, according to the International Telecommunications Union (ITU). Several Asian and European countries have rates approaching (and even exceeding) 100%.
And just exactly WHAT does this mean? I mean damn, you can buy a phone in just about every Mom & Pop Corner Store. So you can't get phone service out in the middle of the Arizona Desert or W. Texas where hardly anyone lives?
And how do you have OVER 100% penetration?
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| Everything is great here. I don't know what they're talking about. I have access to a 30mbit connection, a 15mbit connection (that I'm using) and multiple cheap DSL providers. Sure, we aren't going to be number 1. Do we have to be? What plus is there to being number 1 when most people are receiving their services fine here in America? America is gigantic compared to the rest of the world. Why don't we compare ourselves with Russia or the whole of Canada? The population on the East and West Coast is mostly served well. Having some guy out in the sticks come on here bitching that American broadband sucks doesn't have any weight behind his argument. Companies need to make a profit, number one and number two cost effective technology is NOT here. If you want these types of services either wait (may be a long wait) or move to one of the populated areas of the country.
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| Re: Everything is great here. The problem with your attitude is you aren't doing what's best for the country. See, many times, what's best for the country ISN'T best for a megacorp.
Examples:
Universal Electric Service : There was no point in wiring up the entire country early on. If we had let megacorps alone determine what and where to wire up, the vast majority of the US would be living in the dark, because it takes 30 years to recover the investment of running a pole to a house 1 mile from the road. However, that investment HAS paid off, since that area was developed by OTHER PEOPLE (not the megacorp people). So the forced investment in electricity everywhere led to OTHER PEOPLE improving their lives/income/etc, just not the megacorp. THAT is the problem the megacorp has, they have gotten so greedy, they don't want anyone except themselves to make money.
Same thing can be said for water, national highway system, public school system, public hospitals, national telephone system, county wide cable tv rollout, etc. If you left all of those things to a megacorp greedy fascist leader, huge area's of the country would never get the technologies or capabilities, thus stifling growth everywhere.
It all comes down to GREED. Verizon/AT&T/etc are so greedy, they don't want muni broadband, SIMPLY BECAUSE it could eat into THEIR profits. That's why the corporate apologists cry so much. It's not that they oppose universal broadband, it's that they oppose ANYONE except them making money doing it. The REST of the world has taken a much more SANE approach, and said 'hey, you can wire up broadband, but you follow OUR rules when you do it'.
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| said by Tzale :I don't know what they're talking about. I have access to a 30mbit connection, a 15mbit connection (that I'm using) and multiple cheap DSL providers. Sure, we aren't going to be number 1. Do we have to be? What plus is there to being number 1 when most people are receiving their services fine here in America? America is gigantic compared to the rest of the world. Why don't we compare ourselves with Russia or the whole of Canada? The population on the East and West Coast is mostly served well. Having some guy out in the sticks come on here bitching that American broadband sucks doesn't have any weight behind his argument. Companies need to make a profit, number one and number two cost effective technology is NOT here. If you want these types of services either wait (may be a long wait) or move to one of the populated areas of the country. -Tzale Jesus...
Everything is great here...
...I don't know what they're talking about. I have access to... Tzale,
the country is bigger than your sorryass backyard - grow up, get out and get a grip.
PS: and when you done, travel outside of US - you know, overseas (no, not like Canada  )... | |
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| Re: Everything is great here. List the countries you have been in and received broadband services. If you have been where I have than you will be very aware of the lack of service in rural areas outside of the US and poor availability in many medium size cities througout many areas of Asia, East and West Europe, Middle East, South Africa, Latin America etc. Also the price per unit (bandwidth or call time) is more often more expensive as well. Penetration is not an acurate measure of success or failure but it is one of many factors to consider.
I am sick of the polarization on this issue and the misinformation such as in the previous two articles.
The US absolutely needs continued capital investment in technology and communications infrastructure 100%. But many should agree that the government is not agile or collectively "smart" enough to be able to complete the job quickly enough and with the right technology. The later being a point they could debate for years by itself.
Look at advancements in the last 2-5 years such as EVDO in most major cities, Verizon's FIOS service, Cable speed upgrades everywhere, HDTV availability, WISP's everywhere, more fiber being lit and laid everyday, and . The problem with most of the complainers on this issue is that they are usually the ones who dont want to pay what it costs for these advanced services. (Read every article about 3g on BBR). These types of deployments cost a great deal of money especially with union labor and the high cost of labor in this country for deployment, support and management. (Who here who works in the broadband deployment industry is willing to take a paycut?) If I cant get service or I am unhappy with the existing situation I would rather move, do it myself, invest in a company thats doing it right, get involved in creating a local co-op, ect or STFU. If you want to wait around till the government comes to fix your problems you have learned very little from history and should pick up a tools with that hand waiting for the freebe. The power is in the "people" who are will to except nothing less that what they want/need/require and if the "people" dont want to help (or pay for your services) than maybe you are not doing whats best for the "people" in the their eyes?
I want to pay less and get more too, however I am realistic if you want more you will pay more, whether in taxes or in service...probably both | |
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| Re: Everything is great here. said by truocchio :List the countries you have been in and received broadband services. Literally in every country in Europe (even some of those outside of EU).
If you have been where I have than you will be very aware of the lack of service in rural areas outside of the US and poor availability in many medium size cities througout many areas of Asia, East and West Europe, Middle East, South Africa, Latin America etc.
This is pure BS.
No, I'm not aware of anything like that. I have friends living in rural Germany, small town in middle of Italy etc and none of them had any problem to get multi-megabit connections years ago.
Also the price per unit (bandwidth or call time) is more often more expensive as well.
Jesus, what a total BS. In EU you pay LESS than here, for long years now.
Penetration is not an acurate measure of success or failure but it is one of many factors to consider.
Agreed. But it's still an important number.
I am sick of the polarization on this issue and the misinformation such as in the previous two articles.
I am sick of these wishy-washy posts like this, full with deliberate misinformation.
The US absolutely needs continued capital investment in technology and communications infrastructure 100%. But many should agree that the government is not agile or collectively "smart" enough to be able to complete the job quickly enough and with the right technology. The later being a point they could debate for years by itself.
Nobody "should" agree - the fact that we have a rotten, corrupt FCC proves nothing but the fact that clearly the whole US Administration is und4ere corporate control. And that's what makes impossible to expect a 'sane' governmental policy.
Look at advancements in the last 2-5 years such as EVDO in most major cities, Verizon's FIOS service,
Which is around 0.005 perc ent of the country, cherrypicked for the most richest areas...
very impressive, really...
Excellent example of our fucked up system.
Cable speed upgrades everywhere,
MWHAHAHUAHA! Everywhere???
What channel you're watching? FauxNews?
Man, you're really out of touch - get a fuckin' grip, the average US access is somewhere around ~2Mbit, including those cable areas too. And cable networks are highly congested, mowst of them NEVER provide their promised speed.
HDTV availability,
Yeah, mostly OTA. the only reasonable lineup is available on satellite only (Dish) because cable networks - once again - fully loaded already, they cannot afford putting Voom's 15 HD channels (12-16Mbit channels) into their otherwise pathetic HD lineup.
WISP's everywhere,
I remember that most of the European cities had WiFi EVERYWHERE years ago, most cases for free. My CEO was shocked - and we are located in Manhattan - when he traveled there about a year or so ago and was able to connect almost anywhere for free.
more fiber being lit and laid everyday, and .
Oh, stop this empty BS,pls. You obviously don't have a clue what are the realities outside of US.
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The problem with most of the complainers on this issue is that they are usually the ones who dont want to pay what it costs for these advanced services. (Read every article about 3g on BBR). These types of deployments cost a great deal of money especially with union labor and the high cost of labor in this country for deployment, support and management. (Who here who works in the broadband deployment industry is willing to take a paycut?) If I cant get service or I am unhappy with the existing situation I would rather move, do it myself, invest in a company thats doing it right, get involved in creating a local co-op, ect or STFU. If you want to wait around till the government comes to fix your problems you have learned very little from history and should pick up a tools with that hand waiting for the freebe. The power is in the "people" who are will to except nothing less that what they want/need/require and if the "people" dont want to help (or pay for your services) than maybe you are not doing whats best for the "people" in the their eyes?
I want to pay less and get more too, however I am realistic if you want more you will pay more, whether in taxes or in service...probably both
You are hopelessly clueless, seriously. You've been fed up with cable's stupid propaganda crap - try to read some 'real' independent sources, travel, talk to people.
We have granted cable monopolies here without governmental policy - this means no or the very minimum development unless somebody will invest into that market and the incumbent won't be able to block it.
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| Has anyone actualy read the article? In another measure of technology development, mobile phone penetration, the US has fallen to ninth in the world. 61% of the US population has a mobile phone, according to the International Telecommunications Union (ITU). Several Asian and European countries have rates approaching (and even exceeding) 100% So now, because 39% of the population has no need for a cell phone, we are falling behind as asserted by this article?
This is ABSURD and asinine. What does my Grandmother need a cell phone for? Hell, if I didn't work in the R&D Telecommunication world, I would not have one either; the curse that they are.
The article then quotes Intel CEO (Like he wouldn't want to sell more equipment; he profits from potential hype.
And the quote from Senator Max Baucus is precious, like he would not love the chance to put out positive sound bytes.
Where did they get their information?
What sources did they use?
What sources did they ignore?
How was the information weighed?
Who finances this site?
Who advertises on this site?
The article makes some very broad and sweeping claims, what backs them up? | |
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clubs: | Re: Has anyone actualy read the article? good questions noone1, i was asking the same thing | |
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| Who cares? How about asking about POTS deployment? It wouldn't occur to them that mobile phones are popular in some countries because that's the only phone service they can get or that is cheap/reliable?
And who gives a shit about broadband penetration? Whether or not broadband is available is what is important...not whether or not people are buying it. Penetration is not synonymous with available. Cellular and broadband are plenty available to the vast majority of Americans. They're just not compelling products to a lot of people who have other sources of communications and/or entertainment.
Next up, Firefox downloads hit X# and FIOS deploys only to the super rich.
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| who cares? well obviously the people who live in an area with more than one broadband provider dont as there is a little competition in the market..
Here is an answer I got when I sent a letter to the FCC at least there is a phone number and if enougn people called and complained who knows?
Thank you for contacting the Federal Communications Commission.
When the Commission made the declaratory ruling that cable modem service was under the jurisdiction of the FCC because it was an interstate information service and was not a cable service as defined in the Communications Act of 1934, the Commission also opened a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) proceeding. In this proceeding, the FCC is examining the jurisdictional extent in which the FCC and the State will have in processing cable modem complaints.
Once the Media Bureau examines and reviews all comments submitted and clarifies our role, and provides guidelines, we will have a clearer procedure in processing future cable modem complaints/inquiries.
The NPRM is currently pending and will be acted on by the Commission at some future undetermined date. The matter is currently before the Media Bureau in CS Docket Number 02-52.
The public is welcome to submit their comments and/or follow this proceeding by accessing the FCC's Electronic Comment Filing System
(ECFS) at this web site: »www.fcc.gov/e-file/ecfs.html
ECFS is designed to give access to Commission rulemakings and docketed proceedings via the World Wide Web. ECFS will accept electronic comments in certain proceedings; scan in paper documents; and allow research, retrieval, and printing of any documents in the system.
If your cable modem service is provided via a contract, you may wish to contact your local consumer protection office and/or state Attorney General's office for guidance. You may also wish to file your complaint with the FCC by calling our Consumer Center toll free at 888-225-5322.
Please note that the Commission does not have the authority to "create" a competitive entity. With regards to cable service; there is no federal law or Commission rule that prohibits cable competition. Any entity wishing to provide cable (or cable like) services, must obtain approval from the local franchise authority - not the FCC.
Alternatives to cable modem services include, but are not limited to: wireless internet, satellite internet, and/or broadband over power lines (BPL).
Hope this information proves helpful.
C.Howell
FCC/Consumer & Governmental Affairs Bureau
202-418-1569 | |
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Glamour Profession
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| broadband is bad Faster upstreams allow people to pirate music faster. Faster downstreams allow people to download pirated movies, tv shows, and music faster. Higher caps(or the lack thereof) allow pirates to download more pirated movies, tv shows, and music.
Broadband is bad for the U.S.
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The Problem With Music.
Our Rationale
Time to rewrite the DMCA. | |
| | Trevorm7
join:2005-01-17
Clearwater, FL | Re: broadband is bad I can see the sarcasm in that post | |
| | | Talis
join:2001-06-21
Houston, TX
| Re: broadband is bad I see the sarcasm, but I also think he's exactly right. These innovations that require large pipes are being held up by the copyright holders. They won't build distribution systems that require users to have larger pipes until the whole issue of DRM is resolved, one way or the other. Between the incumbent media giants and the incumbent telcos, trying their best to quash VOIP and invent new schemes to make money without doing much to earn it, the demand for anything faster than dialup will dry up. | |
| JerryTongue
join:2003-04-01
Auburn, WA
·Comcast
| We set out own pace We all cry about what other country's have and what we would like but we continue to pay our cable and internet bill each month which makes them happy and investors happy, why would they care what other country's have? It's not like we are going to get mad and pack up and move over there. Here things are driven from competition but most areas don't see it. Why?
You call Verison to ask for there service but if qwest is in your area you don't have a chance. I think they try to keep a balance of some sort until someone has a upgrade in a area were people do have a choice, then you have the little wars that take place but they could ALL care less what some other country has. | |
| PILMAN
join:2002-11-23
Fort Walton Beach, FL
| The market doesn't demand it Yes but also look at how large our country is. The square miles is a lot. Japan and South Korea are small countries. Granted our metropolis areas have broadband many of those areas have fiber. Infact I wouldn't even say we don't have the technology, at my work here we're running fiber, 100 mbit speeds both ways granted it cost an arm and a leg, we have the technology it's just not affordable because theres not a huge market out there. We're really considered the "minority". Most people just want what works and thats how the market is. Heck at home I have 9mbit download/1 mbit upload with COX granted it'd be nice to use VOIP, stream high resolution video without lag, play a game, download a few torrents with no impact on my line whatsoever but until the majority of the market wants it I don't see it happening. | |
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Report: U.S. Broadband Not So Hot
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