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kudos:2 | Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class Don't forget the dems in you political chastising. I don't think many politicians are truly looking out for the "poor" consumers. | |
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| Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class said by openbox9:Don't forget the dems in you political chastising. I don't think many politicians are truly looking out for the "poor" consumers.
It was the dems who setup a consumer watch body, yet it's repubs who fought it. That is fact. Yes a consumer watch body, something almost every other industrialized country has.
Apparently to repubs, this is socialist. After all, what else is worse than establishing a body to look out for what is in the best interests of 'we the people'. | |
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Democrats want to screw the middle class too, especially when it comes to energy policy and environmental issues. | |
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join:2005-03-19 | Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class care to elaborate? | |
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What are democrats doing about the price of oil/gas?
Why aren't we building more nuclear power plants to meet increased electricity demand? Why are utility rates in places like NY and California so high? | |
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| We continue to fall behind the rest of the world because when we talk about change, we mean it in terms of musical chairs. Tell me once when anyone in leadership actually attempted or even cared to learn something from others doing something better than us. Heck, we have repubs hating on big-gov, which ironically means themselves. All while totally ignoring that big-gov is now at the heart of every successful modern nation out there, especially China.
Half the time we have leaders saying best or greatest country in the world, essentially because they say so, and the idiots believe it. Excluding defense, we have not been the best of a lot of things, in a long time. | |
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kudos:12 | said by fifty nine:said by FBGuy:care to elaborate?
What are democrats doing about the price of oil/gas? Reducing our dependence on it. That has the neat side-effect of allow new US businesses to grow, getting us out of middle-eastern affairs, and cleaning up the environment at the same time. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class said by Matt:Reducing our dependence on it. That has the neat side-effect of allow new US businesses to grow, getting us out of middle-eastern affairs, and cleaning up the environment at the same time. HAHAHAHAHA.
If we're so undependent on foreign oil, then please explain the price of gas shooting up.
Oh wait, that's only bad when a Republican is president.
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kudos:12 | Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class said by pnh102:said by Matt:Reducing our dependence on it. That has the neat side-effect of allow new US businesses to grow, getting us out of middle-eastern affairs, and cleaning up the environment at the same time. HAHAHAHAHA. If we're so undependent on foreign oil, then please explain the price of gas shooting up. Oh wait, that's only bad when a Republican is president. It doesn't happen overnight. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class said by Matt:It doesn't happen overnight. The "attempts" being made to get us back to the stone age wean us from foreign oil didn't work in the 1970s and they won't work now. The only answer is what we did in the 1980s, which was drill, drill and drill for more oil.
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| Wrong. We need to save oil for what it is useful for, and stop wasting it by burning it as fuel.
It is a limited resource. Sure, there's tons left--- but the low hanging fruit is gone. What's left is harder and more expensive to get to. Guess what that does to the cost of energy.
We're fast approaching a time when oil will be so expensive that alternatives will be cheaper economically. We need to get out in front of this and fast. Plus it would be nice if Middle Eastern countries and other nations couldn't hold such sway over our interests.
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Grove City, PA | You do realize that these days the only "foreign" oil we get is from Canada and South America? EU is middle east and Russia now.
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What are democrats doing about the price of oil/gas? Reducing our dependence on it. That has the neat side-effect of allow new US businesses to grow, getting us out of middle-eastern affairs, and cleaning up the environment at the same time. How exactly are they reducing our dependence on it?
The only push I see are for solar panels and windmills. Electricity in this country is generated from coal, not oil, so they're displacing American coal not foreign oil... | |
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Sacramento, CA | Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class We are pushing for electric cars as well. When battery tech moves forward we'll eventually replace our automotive fleet with electric ones. Solar panels and windmills will them come into play more.
Also, we are discovering other materials that are plastic-like without needing to be made from oil so that will further take us off of oil. While it'll be a long time before we can go 100% without oil we can at least work on the obvious portions. | |
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The other question is if the FCC has the authority to even regulate the internet. Since the internet does not use the public airwaves.
Another example of mob rule by the Democrats. | |
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source: »www.fcc.gov/cgb/internet.html
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What are democrats doing about the price of oil/gas? The price is market driven. We can thank Goldman Sachs for speculating the price up on that.
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| Corporations that would be in charge of building and running these Nuclear plants can not be trusted to keep the public in the best interest. I am actually surprised we have not had our own Chernobyl - it is all about profit and nothing about maintenance and upkeep. Think about it a minute...
How many power plants were just damaged by freezing temperatures and such in an unprecedented freeze in areas that are not used to those temperatures in the winter months?
What did we learn from this? That these plant operators NEVER took extremes into consideration, and built these plants as cheaply as what few regulations we do have would allow them! Enough said! This in itself speaks volumes of the greediness and not caring what happens to anyone involved in actually having to deal with this kind of failure - and it was all due to corruption that can be traced back to more Republicans than Democrats.
And Democrats HAVE tried to tax these Oil companies, only for Republicans to fight that tooth and nail. This country can not get anywhere because of Republicans whining that they may be forced to finally pay their fair share for the good of America. This current batch of Republicans are the most anti-American I have studied yet.
When was the last Government shutdown? In the 1990's, when Democrats were trying to bust the Republicans down and put them in their place, but alas, the Repugs were in control of everything and made sure they whined and complained until everyone just said - "We do not care what you do, that is, unless you just get the Government back up and running again."
As we lead up to another Government shutdown at the hands of the Republicans, let us remember when the Republicans were running things in the ground for the past 10 years, they had no problem in spending TRILLIONS of dollars on wars we had no business fighting. Corporations like Haliburton laughed all the way to the bank, as they were there to rip the Government off. At no time was anyone amongst their ranks actually thinking of We the People - they were only thinking about themselves.
Republicans have had an agenda against the Internet since it was turned loose on the people. All were foaming at the mouth, as this would be a means to extract untold amounts of money out of everyone. We the tax payer own a good majority of the Internet, but Republicans refuse to accept that fact, plus many more about how everything they are doing is WRONG WRONG WRONG. All in the name of a dollar.
We've been ripped off for way to long and they refuse to understand, We the People are getting tired of it! And the way of thinking amongst the party is that no one can tell them what to do, that they tell US what is going to happen - High gas, all jobs going over seas, and now - We have to allow them to ruin the Internet - all in the name of Capitalism and forgetting about the little people that have made things to this point all possible.
In my opinion, if the Government is shutdown again, at the hand of Republicans, all because they are not getting what they want - JUST LEAVE IT SHUTDOWN!
We need to scrap things - FIRE ALL THE CURRENT POLITICIANS - and just START ALL OVER. This time, remembering, it is all about WE THE PEOPLE.
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If they want an example of how life should flow then watch the universe itself. Things change constantly. And no matter how much you fight it things will change your life or ... LOSE you in the long run if you don't accept and work with changes around you. | |
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| Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class said by KrK:Because Corporations own both?
Ding, ding, ding! You win the grand prize!
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Grove City, PA | What could they do, those are commodities, and are subject to supply and demand. Blame the mortgage companies that overvalued them before going bust.
Nuclear? It costs a fortune to build one, and lots of time. And the fact that nobody wants to live near one.
NY probably has less regulatory on electricity, CA is far away from any power plants and outpaces the limited supply as it is.
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California "Global Warming Final Solution Act". This pointless "feel good" bill will destroy 1 million jobs at the minimum in CA with a zero reduction in global warming on a global scale. This state is controlled by a fringe radical element and is spiraling around the bowl. | |
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Republicans = LESS CONTROL / LESS GOVT / LESS SPENDING
Democrats = MORE CONTROL / MORE BIG FAT GOVT / MORE SPENDING
Republicans want less powerful govt, govt has no rights to stick there nose in ANYTHING. They are there to protect us from foreign invasions and ensure our constitutional rights are upheld .. THATS IT! | |
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| We should just give Republicans everything they want: Repeal "ObamaCare", repeal Social Security, repeal Medicare, repeal the Minimum Wage, outlaw all unions, close the EPA, repeal all amendments to the Constitution (except the 2nd), reduce business taxes to zero, eliminate the Estate tax, create a national sales tax on food and energy, double military spending, privatize all police, privatize all schools, privatize all roads, privatize all prisons...privatize everything.
Then, let the country percolate for a few years and see how things work out.
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Sacramento, CA | Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class I will tell you what will happen. America would be great again! We can finally have true death panels to weed out the weak and the old. We can put those lazy 6 year-olds to work. We can rob other countries of what is rightfully ours. Companies price-fixing water and toll booths every 30 feet will remind the unwashed their place in society.
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| Re: The de-funding amendment may get passed Very true! And this shows that the FCC DID over step their boundaries and puts them back in to place. The FCC has NO control over the Internet anyway. And as all budgets and laws get passed- bury the details in the bottom of the bill and BOOM! Passed! | |
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First, I say follow the money. I would be willing to bet those that agreed with this (including yourself) have a vested interest in stifling internet competition.
Secondly, the FCC "is charged with regulating all non-federal government use of the radio spectrum (including radio and television broadcasting), and all interstate telecommunications (wire, satellite and cable) as well as all international communications that originate or terminate in the United States." Call me crazy, but I am pretty sure the internet fulls under communications there. | |
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Charlotte, NC | Re: The de-funding amendment may get passed Lets see less Gov at the Massey Coal Mine or the BP Gulf oil spill. The laws were on the books but the over sight agency were doing what the Bush Admin wanted them to do for years less Government. I am not for a Nanny state but either enforce the safety rules or hold the corporate decision makers personally responsible for their money saving decisions that blow up. | |
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| Re: The de-funding amendment may get passed The crash and collapse of the housing markets and etc was also a direct result of deregulation of the financial sector and a lack of oversight and enforcement. In fact all the money people said that has been "wasted" on stimulus really the blame falls back on the deregulation in the 90's and idea of "self regulation." During the last decade we saw massive consolidation of financial services, banks, brokerage houses, audit and accounting firms, investment banks, insurance companies, etc etc ... and the removal of restrictions on investments in speculative and riskier instruments, relaxation of capital requirements and increased use of leverage. Look where it got us.
Sadly, it seems like they learned nothing, and the public is too misinformed/and/or apathetic to care.... so they get away with it, Hell are even *rewarded* for the disaster.... even now, they're pushing for more deregulation and the roll-back of Government oversight. Those who do not study history are doomed to repeat it.
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| | Just another example This is just another example of why all the corporate money in politics is very, very bad! Citizens United case stated corporations are people. Well that is absurd!
That only allows the extremely rich leaders of corporations to own politicians and pull their strings to do exactly what they want.
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| | | Re: Just another example said by hjinx :This is just another example of why all the corporate money in politics is very, very bad! Citizens United case stated corporations are people.
Maybe there ought to be a corporate 'death penalty' for the companies and their execs. Dissolution for the companies when they transgress, and an invoice for the bullet to the families of the executives who caused the transgressions.
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| decoy Unfortunately the tea party is a gop decoy. It needs to go. One day, we will likely have our own situation here that we did in eqypt.. But i'm afraid ours will be much worse....
And the members of the supreme court that allowed for corporations to be ruled as people need to be hanged.. They have betrayed our country and set this motion in place... | |
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Santa Clara, CA | The cure is competition If you want a truly neutral internet, then support policies that encourage competition. Nothing good has ever come from FCC mandates, they are just power-grabs by a useless bureaucracy that has been "captured" by the incumbents long ago.
Paxio, Utopia, and others will lead the way to providing a truly open internet. The future belongs to open-access and high bandwidth, not FCC rule-making. Don't let the FCC start making rules that will ultimately stifle competition and entrench the big incumbents even further. | |
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| | | Re: The cure is competition said by joebarnhart:If you want a truly neutral internet, then support policies that encourage competition. Nothing good has ever come from FCC mandates, they are just power-grabs by a useless bureaucracy that has been "captured" by the incumbents long ago.
Paxio, Utopia, and others will lead the way to providing a truly open internet. The future belongs to open-access and high bandwidth, not FCC rule-making. Don't let the FCC start making rules that will ultimately stifle competition and entrench the big incumbents even further.
Utopia is a government run network. Paxio doesn't have the money to expand, and never will.
I don't understand why it's so hard for you to understand this. How many times do people need to repeat these obvious facts before you listen to them? How do you even pay your taxes? | |
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Santa Clara, CA | Re: The cure is competition There are good and bad points to running a network under the auspices of government. It is their choice and I won't denigrate them for making it. The fact that Paxio is not government-owned does not guarantee its success or failure. It must compete.
Paxio is doing pretty well, and it poised to grow a lot in the next few years. The funding is there because people WANT "true bandwidth, true choice."
I'm sorry Paxio won't serve you in Ohio, but that is an accident of geography and not anybody's fault. | |
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| | Politics + Internet There is nothing currently wrong with the internet. Once the government goes their greedy little hands on it there will be no stop to the manipulation in the name of 'Fairness' and 'Equality'. The Tea Party is not funded by large corporations, largely because there is no master 'Tea Party' Headquarters. The Tea Party is made up of individuals who want to stop overreaching government and get back to the founding principals of this country.
I visit this site everyday, but am starting to get discouraged by the many liberal stances of Mr. Karl Bode specifically around 'Net Neutrality'. If there is nothing wrong, don't touch it. We don't need more regulations in this country, we need less. | |
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| Neutrality-What has the FCC done? As far as I know, squat.
Closed door meetings, where the real decisions are made by the incumbents, all the while claiming "open" policies.
Pfff, the FCC is just another bunch of money-grubbing sycophants.
Meanwhile the DHS, DOJ, the white house all act in unison to gain control of any information being passed on the 'net.
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| Movie scene reference. Shawshank Redemption.
Andy first gets to prison and there is the shower scene when Boggs comes up to him and says, 'Anyone got to you yet?'
I guess Boggs the ISPs got to Andy the politicians/corporate puppets.
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| Liberty Maybe this goes to the level of American Freedom. On both sides they "want their way". How about just being neutral so any individual can use any and all information to further themselves and rise to the top or sink to the bottom. Tired of political gangs getting their way with numbers while the individuals are losers. Just sayin'. | |
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| | | Re: Liberty Actually, that is an intelligent post. Both parties have their idiots. And yes, I was thinking that today. I am so tired of hearing lies from politicans in general that I thought "fine, no one can agree on how to educate children. We have idiots Christians who don't like science and want only evolution and prayers and bibles in schools. And then you have another side that thinks everyone has to have a Master's degree in Mechanical engineering and the whole education system should be setup for that" And the thing is that neither side will ever move an inch far enough to make a compromise. So maybe the best thing to do is just disband the whole dept of education on the federal level and the state level. NO public money going to privatize schools. Just leave it to individual parents to home school, or pay for private school, and figure it out for themselves since they have all the answers and can't come together with a united, common answer to a question. Just completely withdraw the government from it. Some people will wind up stars with PHD's and brilliant and others will wind up ignorant rednecks eating dust on the side of the road in a tent somewhere. But what can you do when people are so Darn stubborn and unwilling to give an inch. Then people can go on being selfish and do it their own way and deal with the problems that come with it. But also watch out for the bands of uneducated thugs roaming the countryside attacking travelers going to their office in the morning. I am quite sure it would come to that.  | |
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| | | | Re: Liberty Maybe that is why the founders of this great nation had a libertarian streak to begin with. They knew that humans were selfish, fearful, and stubborn and just couldn't reach a positive consensus on many things so maybe they figured it best just to let everyone fight it out on their own so that there wasn't a need to convene and try to find common solutions where no one will come together. Except perhaps when someone is murdered or someone steals. Maybe they thought that really was a better way to approach the radicalism, hatred, selfish, stubborn, self-righteous, and rigid human nature. | |
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 doc69Premium
join:2004-08-01
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| I don't get it!!! You people are the problem. They got everybody choosing sides & fighting while they pull the country out from under us & give it away. Here's a thought, STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Neither side is, on our side, so stop crying about dem or rep they are both lying assholes. Wow this country is going to shit.
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I'll keep my God, my freedom, my guns, and my money. You can keep "THE CHANGE." | |
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 whizkid3Premium,MVM
join:2002-02-21
Queens, NY
kudos:8 | Republicans suck Republicans:
Definition: Doing their absolute best to ensure that large international corporations that pay no taxes are able to screw each and every hardworking American Citizen into poverty, while pretending to be white Christian loving foes of abortion, gay marriage and Mexicans. They suck and so do any of you jackwagons who naively fall for their BS.
This is just another give-away to large corporations. Making sure they can jack you for every last dollar for your internet services. | |
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| | gov't shutdown I am for the government shutdown. I think maybe it would spark a national debate. And then enough citizens would get angry enough (maybe) to spark some kind of positive change. Maybe if the federal gov't is shutdown long enough people will force the government to work for the people for change and instead for its own aims. | |
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| | This site has really gone downhill This used to be a site for people to complain about and compare their ISPs. Lately, it has been reduced to a sounding board for political squabbles and it is pathetic.
The internet became the way it is because ISPs sold internet access to people on their terms. Their terms are not always the greatest, but trying to drag the federal government into the matter contravenes the original purpose of the site. When the federal government gets involved, everyone has a different idea of what they should do and what they actually do is nothing like any of those ideas. Let the federal government deal with international issues while we deal with our own domestic issues. The last thing anyone needs is for the federal government to ruin things even more than they already have (e.g. DMCA, USF, giving ICANN to the UN). | |
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| | | Re: This site has really gone downhill WhoA.. Republicans have infiltrated EVERYTHING! remember thier favorite saying? if you arent with us, your against. | |
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Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class
Re: Republicans want to kiss the rich and screw the middle class
