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Rogers Announces 18Mbps Cable Service
With 100 Gig monthly usage cap...
by Karl Bode Thursday 03-Aug-2006 tags: bandwidth · cable · world
As per discussion in our Rogers Forum, the company has announced a new higher speed 18Mbps downstream/ 1Mbps upstream tier that will be available in the fourth quarter of this year. The service will cost users $100 a month, and will include an "industry leading" 100 GB monthly usage cap. Users who go over this cap each month will pay an additional $1.25 per gigabyte. Also see the company press release.

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danclan

join:2005-11-01
Midlothian, VA

say what?

they ought to check with some fios customers who blow by 100GB monthly with regularity and dont blink an eye....(neither does verizon)...
retsam6

join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ

Re: say what?

/retsam hugs his 20 meg fios connection....
roady1

join:2003-11-13
Cleveland, OH

Dude...

For $100 a month I want statics....five of 'em

metachronos

join:2005-01-26
Green Bay, WI
Charter might be lagging behind at 5m/512k, but atleast there is no bandwith cap.

DaMaGeINC
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Greenville, SC
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Re: say what?

said by metachronos:

Charter might be lagging behind at 5m/512k, but atleast there is no bandwith cap.
Charter is at 10m/1m now. FYI

hayabusa3303
Over 200 mph
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kudos:1

Re: say what?

Tw here still 5m/384 here...lol they are way behind..

Tw get with the program here!!!! PLEASE..
yabos

join:2003-02-16
London, ON
Rogers serves in Canada and competes with Bell, not Verizon.

rachelsfx

join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
We are not talking about people that do massive downloads of porn, P2P, Kazaa, etc.

I am an above average user and may use 50-60 gigs a month.

If just wacthing video online, sending pics, email, and surfing, 100 gigs is fine.

I do know "hogs" that use 1 tb a month. Yes, I think they should pay MORE. How? Running P2P. Basically, illegal downloading and uploading is what they are doing.

I'd say cap at 100 gigs then charge $.25 a gig after that.

FIOS shouldn't apply since they want you to download with 30/5 connections.

If you don't want to pay by the gig, get a commercial account. No caps on those.
moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD

$1/GB

Sounds good to me.

O.k. guys, how long before people reach the cap at full bore? 5 hours 30 minutes?

Jodokast96
Stupid people really piss me off.
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join:2005-11-23
Erial, NJ
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2 edits

Re: $1/GB

About 12 hours, 30 minutes non-stop at full bore.

*Edited for a mis-placed decimal point.*

ifyousayso

@207.168.x.x

Re: $1/GB

Maybe I'm missing something here, but if you max out at 18Mbps you reach your monthly limit in 1hr. 32 mins and 35 seconds, right? Maybe it's just too early in the morning and I'm missing something...
phantom6294

join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD

3 edits

Re: $1/GB

100GB = 858,993,459,200 bits (assuming binary GB)

858,993,459,200 bits / 18,000,000 Mbps = 47,721 Seconds

47,721 seconds = 13 hours 15 minutes 21 seconds

larytet

join:2004-11-26
Unity, ME

Re: $1/GB

server farms traffic rate can go as low as $0.20/1G in other words they sell bandwith at 5 times of what it should cost in reality

verolom

join:2002-03-23
Reston, VA
Thanks!

So at 9 Mbps we are talking a day, at 4.5 Mbps we are talking 2 days... Say you are using it 6 hours a day at that speed, that's 8 days. What in the...?
Derfel

join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB

Boo to caps.

Industry leading? What industry? Because last time I looked, my DSL ISP has NO bandwidth cap. Zero. Sky's the limit.

dcurrey
Premium
join:2004-06-29

Re: Boo to caps.

At least they are admitting they have caps. Much better than trying to hide them deep in some TOS with the legal babel and general BS.

Lazarus
Slavin Away
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join:2002-06-18
Dickinson, ND

Re: Boo to caps.

I will take my 4Mb uncapped vs an 18 capped anyday.
backness

join:2005-07-08
K2P OW2

Re: Boo to caps.

especially if the up is the same
phills_suck

join:2004-10-11
Burlington, NJ
Yea. Better they state it then come out of nowhere one day hammering people with extra fees per GB. Atleast they give a definite answer compared to comcast.
jesseb_66

join:2002-12-06
Tucson, AZ

Re: Boo to caps.

$100 Canadia isn't so bad, but again for that much they should have it highier than 100GB..... 200GB atelast for that kind of money.
Derfel

join:2004-06-06
Winnipeg, MB
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My ISP (MTS in Winnipeg, MB) gives me 5Mb and they have no cap, stated or otherwise. Some months I'm only pulling 8-10GB data, but some months I have gone close to 150GB with no notices, warnings, etc. And before you go off on piracy, I'll state that while some of that data might be file sharing, most of it is conferencing and number crunching related to my "work".

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said by Derfel:

Industry leading? What industry? Because last time I looked, my DSL ISP has NO bandwidth cap. Zero. Sky's the limit.
Industry leading in the sense of cable providers. So, wherever Rogers is, they'll lead the industry since there would be no other cable provider.

And, yeah, our area isn't upgraded yet (DSL), but still is unlimited..i can download 466 GB a month, even with my slow connection, so industry leading my behind..
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zod5000

join:2003-10-21
Victoria, BC

100gb cap isn't industry leading.

umm the 100gb cap isn't industry leading, shaw has been using that on their xtreme package for some time now. Their extreme package is 7mbps. 100 is a little low for 100 bux and on an uber fast connection.
Shark_615

join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON

cap

I have routinely gone over stated caps with no problems, I am not sure if they are even enforced unless you totally abuse the service.

Dragasoni
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join:2001-12-14
Palm Bay, FL
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·Earthlink Cable ..

Pointless

What's the point of having a fast connection with limitations? I'd rather have a slower connection without data caps. Would I download 100 GB in a month? Probably not, but what if I had to for some reason?

I think most users will agree with me when I say: "I'd rather not have to think before I download and track my data usage." My 7 Mbps RR is fast enough for me, and they don't seem to have usage caps.

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BuzzDar

join:2006-01-28
West Frankfort, IL

Re: Pointless

what are you all downloading to use that much anyways?

33591094

join:2002-11-19
Canada

Re: Pointless

None of your business! Why should it matter to you?
shoan

join:2006-02-27
Benton, AR

Re: Pointless

porn :0)

33591094

join:2002-11-19
Canada

Re: Pointless

I'm sure that SOME percentage is pRon...


rachelsfx

join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
PORN!

Dragasoni
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said by BuzzDar:

what are you all downloading to use that much anyways?
I said, in my original post, that I'd doubt I'd use that must bandwidth. Still, I don't believe I should be limited, or worse: have to track my data usage.

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said by BuzzDar:

what are you all downloading to use that much anyways?
I suspect that most of those who go way over 100 gig/month are downloading pirated movies and games. Of course, there are those unix gurus who may be downloading nightly updated distributions, but that won't be most of them.
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pkarlos_76

join:2004-08-24
Edmonton, AB
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Re: Pointless

said by Romney2012:

said by BuzzDar:

what are you all downloading to use that much anyways?
I suspect that most of those who go way over 100 gig/month are downloading pirated movies and games. Of course, there are those unix gurus who may be downloading nightly updated distributions, but that won't be most of them.
Aww come on they need their porn tooo.....

dcurrey
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join:2004-06-29
Reviews:
·RoadRunner Cable
·ViaTalk

Traffic.

How are they determining legitimate traffic as opposed to multiple ports scans and hacker attempts against your ip. What if a group of people did a low level DOS attack against you. Not enough to bring down your connection but push you above the 100g limit.
BosstonesOwn

join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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·Comcast

Re: Traffic.

said by dcurrey:

How are they determining legitimate traffic as opposed to multiple ports scans and hacker attempts against your ip. What if a group of people did a low level DOS attack against you. Not enough to bring down your connection but push you above the 100g limit.
Don't use logic in the face of a corporation. Why would you do that it just ain't smart
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Pete_64

join:2001-12-20
KingstonON

Re: Traffic.

Cogeco. is increasing there standard HSI to 10/1 for 39.95, currently 10/1 is the professional package at 69.96.

professional will be increasing, but you won't see the price increase with them.

Rogers is out to Lunch

99664227
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join:2002-11-21
USA

LOL.

Nice 100 MB monthly cap. Oh, Cananda......
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Romney2012
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Re: LOL.

said by 99664227:

Nice 100 MB monthly cap. Oh, Cananda......
You mean 100 GB, not 100 MB.
majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY

My uplaod is capped

My Download i can use all I want with my current 15/2 speeds or the boost 30/2 speeds.

My uplaod is capped though. Id rather have just my uplaod capped then both of them.
b10010011
Whats a Posting tag?

join:2004-09-07
Bellingham, WA

At least they are not calling it UNLIMITED!

The 100GB usage limt is in the press release.

I wonder if it will be in the marketing materials.

I am betting it will small print and way down at the bottom.

100 Gigabytes per month
dl0711

join:2004-06-27
London, ON

WTF is Rogers thinking????

my reply to this is:
WTF is Rogers thinking???? 100 GB of usage for 18 megabits per second (Mbps)?? I get 100GB of usage for 6 megabits per second (Mbps).. Rogers SHOULD & MUST Up the usage to Match the speed to lets say 200 - 300 GB of usage thereafter $1.25 per GB

Flowstar

@cgocable.net

Not so industry leading

Cogeco's HS Pro has been 100GB cap for some time now. And the speed, 16/1, was recently increased and made offical by at least yesterday »Cogeco Pro now officially 16 Mb -oh, and the cost, that's $70/month .. less if you have cable tv service with them.
kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime

join:2001-08-27
Palmdale, CA
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why have caps if speed's already capped?

OK if I recall correctly, Rogers currently has a 6mbps/800kbps top speed that's also capped at 100gb.
so they're going to tripple the download speed and only slightly nudge the upload speed, and keep the same cap they currently have?
What's the point of that exactly? For that matter what's the point of caps? To me bandwidth should be measured in total throughput received, not how much was downloaded/uploaded. If bandwidth is going to be measured by how much data has passed over a connection, then hell why not open the throttle on cable modems and allow up to 30mbps/6mbps or whatever's available? If you're going to offer such nice downstream speeds, then why are you so afraid of upstream, and only willing to slightly nudge it? If there's going to be a speed increase, it should be a decent one in both directions, not half assed. Upload should be 2mbps. Just my thought for whatever they're not worth lol.

dburkland
Student

join:2004-03-05
Minneapolis, MN

Re: why have caps if speed's already capped?

Caps are lame, don't off the service if customers won't be able to max it out lol

LaZ3R
Premium
join:2003-01-17

No point

No point in providing super fast speeds when you have a cap that can be reached within a day at those speeds. Way to go Rogers!! You're so intelligent!
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andrewhaji
Premium
join:2002-03-02
North York, ON
Reviews:
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Cable

Capping Bandwidth AND Data Transfer

Rogers should stick to capping one thing, and not two. If they're going to cap our speeds, then give us unlimited data transfer. If they're going to cap our data transfer, then unlock our modems so that we can download/upload as fast as we like. If they enforce those rules properly, there should be no room for abuse in either of the two cases.

TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON

Damn

The internet sure does suck ass in Canada. I'm going to bell soon anyway fork rogers wanting $7 more a month. Also to send a bigger message I'll get bell internet and TV.

mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
kudos:5

On DSL

Well I'm stuck on 2.5/640 (before overhead, interleaved) and I'd still prefer to stay on this connection than go over to Rogers with a service like that because at least my bandwidth is _unlimited_

lucky644
Premium
join:2002-02-04

Re: On DSL

said by mlerner:

Well I'm stuck on 2.5/640 (before overhead, interleaved) and I'd still prefer to stay on this connection than go over to Rogers with a service like that because at least my bandwidth is _unlimited_
My math might be wrong, but isn't that potentially 817GB a month?

I'd prefer the slower connection over the fast with a shitty cap, like I have now with Shaw, 7mbit /w 100gb limit is silly. I may have to go back to Telus 2.5 /w unlimited.

8yhnbgt

@cox.net

...........

1 gb takes me anywhere between 30 and 50 min to dl

pog
Premium
join:2004-06-03
Kihei, HI

Ho hum...

When they start seriously increasing the upload, this will all be FAR more interesting. 5/5, for example... I'd pay extra for that.

metachronos

join:2005-01-26
Green Bay, WI

Re: Ho hum...

said by pog:

When they start seriously increasing the upload, this will all be FAR more interesting. 5/5, for example... I'd pay extra for that.
Same here, I'd take 5/5 over 16/1 anyday.

Kfedka
Premium
join:2005-05-06
Spokane, WA

Re: Ho hum...

$1 gb , that is stupid.
kc5fog

join:2005-09-09
Hitchcock, TX

The reasons for capped upload speeds

"then why are you so afraid of upstream, and only willing to slightly nudge it?"

Most ISP’s view the reason for a large upload pipe is for either running a commercial server which will cause allot of round the clock loading. Or they feel your going to be transferring files on P2P file sharing. The way they see it is if your not running a server or p2p uploading and only using your connection for "legitimate internet usage" then you shouldn’t need a large upstream. I like SBC’s TOS, They have no caps and don’t care what you do.

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