 | | dream dream dream if it didn't count against your monthly bandwidth it would be amazing. Although i know this would conflict with Rogers tv division. one can dream though. | |
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 |  r81984Fair and BalancedPremium join:2001-11-14 Katy, TX 1 edit | Re: dream dream dream I was wondering the same thing. Rogers has very high per GB fees. | |
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| doesn't video create bandwidth problems? Hold on here.... didn't Rogers claim they HAD to throttle paying customers because of the high load on their network?? Now they launch a service that will have a MUCH higher impact to their network load than P2P and encrypted traffic EVER caused... I guess since they lost the titles of "The Fastest" and "The most reliable" they want to replace them with "The most expensive" and "the most misleading". | |
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 |  mlernerPremium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5 Reviews:
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| Re: doesn't video create bandwidth problems? The problem is peak usage and upstream bandwidth which is caused by technical constrains of the HFC network. Rogers is slowly getting up to better capacity but they'll need several upgrades first, most notably DOCSIS3 which should help immensely. However if you compared performance results from 2006 and now, I'm sure you'd find a greater quality of service as a whole. | |
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2 edits | Re: doesn't video create bandwidth problems? No. It actually went down in performance, when they raised express to 10mbps, and left extreme at 10mbps, they then failed to add capacity, and my node sucked. when i was on express it sucked, so i switched to extreme to counter, now they are both suck, because express users can use more at peak hours then they used to, and the node cannot handle it as well. before when only a few of us were on extreme because of a higher cost it was way, way better. now more people are switching back to express because they see it as no better. | |
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1 edit | Re: doesn't video create bandwidth problems? Yes. One node is one neighborhoods view of Rogers. but there is no way to fix the problem. because when people call in, they claim the lines are fine. my problem is more that rogers did not upgrade extreme to a faster speed, however they somehow felt they could handle upgrading express before speeding up the customers that paid more. and in some cases end up hurting them more. | |
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 |  |  |  |  |  mlernerPremium join:2000-11-25 Nepean, ON kudos:5 | Re: doesn't video create bandwidth problems? They likely have not gotten around to increasing capacity in your area yet. They can't do all areas at once, it's rather expensive. With cable it's always unfortunately "UP TO". | |
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1 edit | Re: doesn't video create bandwidth problems? Difference is capacity is easier to maintain on DSL rather than on an HFC network where you need to maintain multiple nodes and spectrum use. It's getting better with DOCSIS but still quite limited compared to DSL. The big issue with DSL is distance which is where bandwidth capacity at the last mile becomes an issue. | |
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 en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | It'll go bust Just like Bell's attempt did, as long as there are caps involved.
1. You need TV service to use it (cash cow... this should be able to REPLACE overpriced TV service) 2. CAPs with pricey overage charges. Watching a few shows would be more expensive than ordering PPV. -- Canada = Hollywood North | |
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| Re: It'll go bust i dont think it will be anything like basic cable. granted some of the same shows on it will be the same. the name on demand usually implies not live. the service will no doubt be ad filled. i question the same thing; how does rogers have the capacity for it if they cant handle p2p, which uses less bandwidth. however, putting subscription services on demand online like tmn/hbo could be interesting, one could then share subscriptions. no doubt the current private "pirating" of tv will continue. in most cases it offers an easier, cheaper, faster, higher quality version, with no ads. | |
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| said by en102:1. You need TV service to use it (cash cow... this should be able to REPLACE overpriced TV service) Not completely true. You just need ANY Rogers service (including Fido) to use it, but selection is limited to programming available FTA and (supposedly) web-exclusive content.
A TV subscription is only required if you want to watch content that is coming from subscription/premium channels such as Superchannel and Sportsnet, and your TV package must include those channels to view them through the Rogers video portal. | |
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 |  | | Hi en102, this is Mary with Rogers. I was reading through the forum and wanted to clarify on your point above. Rogers On Demand Online is free to all Rogers customers - Cable, TV, Hi-Speed Internet, Rogers Home Phone and Rogers Wireless - and it can be streamed from anywhere in Canada for customers subscribing to any ISP. | |
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 | | No thank you! Absolutely not interested.
Waste my internet bandwidth on crappy TV. Are they kidding? | |
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 | | ill add sorry already downlaoded 99% of what i want form tv land like 2 shows a week means im not buying into cable or sate when i did a costing of it all those two shows a week should only cost me 1.67$ a month sorry am i alone doubt it. NO choice no favorable costs you know the result i speak of. | |
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 | | . damn them for adding something to there service. Next time they add something lets all complain more. | |
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 | | yes lets do that especially FOR USELESS THINGS THAT YOU WILL PAY FOR AND NEVER USE | |
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 | | not too bad not a bad service at all. i have a cheap rogers wireless plan and am a student, and think this is pretty neat for me to watch tv shows for free on my wi-fi connection at home and on campus... right now i DO spend time searching torrents etc for tv shows, usually the night after they air .. i watch about 5 shows right now and download these all... with this service, i dont even need to download. just log in and watch it . i dont mind sitting through commercials, big deal. beats me having to search around for files that sometimes are half missing or direct me to websites filled with viruses and spyware. | |
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 1 edit | above person doesnt realize if i watch 4 tv eps a week thats 3 hrs a week and also 1.5 GB in HDTV which is about half sized of FULL HD so that is 3GB = 12GB off your 90GB cap now imagine a familly the intended users....4 how about 3 eps a day there goes your cap so you get to pay 100$ for your tv and 50$ for delivery
can i say it again USELESS
and my bet is that 4 shows a day is low for most households thus you can enjoy paying even more THIS IS VERY STUPID
life is like a box a rogers ya never know what ya gonna get inside
so right now i pay 40$ a month 9$ for a dry loop and my cc fee monthly for pay as you go card of 7$
thats my expenses to get UNLIMITED TV stream out my butt and yea when user based billing comes to BCE i leave and goto a new provider period | |
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 |  | | Re: above person doesnt realize Hi chronoss2009. Most of our customers don't come close to using their bandwidth caps. To put that in to viewing perspective, someone could watch tv for four days straight without stopping to eat or sleep and still only use half of the data in a mid range plan. | |
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 Xizer join:2004-02-05 New York, NY | High quality my ass. It is a sad day when 500 Kbps is considered "high quality." | |
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 2 edits | i guess keeping htem as ignorant as possible does work so telling everyone its ILLEGAL to download anything ( while legite or not and whether we have a cdr levy or not ) is what your about why not just get rid of the net and replace it with a monitor that has 4 buttons it it for 4 websites you want to show them and a remote to scroll up and down. THINK merger with apples mac and your what corporations want and what us customers want is not that.
yea that would cut down on bandwidth too then you can report to everyone our users never reach there caps ROFL
SERIOUSLY if you think im wrong then uncap unthrottle for a 3 year contract that is 100% BINDING that if you break it YOU PAY ME early termination and see how many people migrate to you.
otherwise its dribble kibble.
500Kbps is high quality HAHAAHAHAHA we were encoding at that level back what before hd existed with h263 | |
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 HpowerRoflmao join:2000-06-08 Glendale, CA | Dumb idea... lol @ 500kbps high quality. That was years ago. What a great way to get people to hit their caps fast and make extra $ off them. -- The Internet is about to go down....it is actually. | |
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