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Rogers Launches New 150 Mbps Tier
$123 a Month With 250 GB Usage Cap
by Karl Bode Wednesday 15-Aug-2012 tags: business · bandwidth · cable
Users in our forums note that Canadian cable operator Rogers Communications has launched a new 150 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up tier. The tier comes with a shiny new Citron CGN2 DOCSIS 3.0 modem, and will run users around $123 a month. The tier does come with a 250 GB monthly usage cap, above which users will need to shell out $0.50 for each additional GB, with a monthly ceiling on overages set at $100. The modem itself will cost users $200 to buy, or $8 a month extra to rent. A user in our forum is seeing significant downstream speeds of 190 Mbps when factoring speed boost. Granted, Rogers was recently again named one of the heaviest throttlers of BitTorrent content, so your bandwidth mileage may vary.

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AricBrown

join:2002-12-11
Amarillo, TX

Why the Cap...

Its stupid to have a 150 Mbps speed with a 250 gig cap....Next it will be "A Gigabit speed but with a 10 gig cap for $100 with overages of $1 per gig"

BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Why the Cap...

Most Canadian ISPs have caps well under 100 GB a month.

Mashiki
Balking The Enemy's Plans

join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON
kudos:1

Re: Why the Cap...

Depends on the plan. Bell/Rogers/Telus do. But comparative plans by independents do not. Rogers 28/1 plan has a cap of 80GB($48), Teksavvy is 300GB($46/mo), unlimited is a bit more.

Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:3
Reviews:
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said by BF69:

Most Canadian ISPs have caps well under 100 GB a month.

Not really. It's only a big issue in Ontario and Quebec - specifically, areas that have Bell Canada as an incumbent telco - and a non-issue in Western and Atlantic Canada.

My net connection is from Start Communications using Cogeco coax. I also have a 300GB limit.

BF69
Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: Why the Cap...

said by Gone:

said by BF69:

Most Canadian ISPs have caps well under 100 GB a month.

Not really. It's only a big issue in Ontario and Quebec -

A good % of the population of Canada lives in those areas do they not? So I'm to sure about the "only" part.

Gone
Premium
join:2011-01-24
Fort Erie, ON
kudos:3

Re: Why the Cap...

If ten million Canadians are a small enough percentage of the population to ignore, so be it. If it were me, I wouldn't be so "sure" about what I know when I found out I was ignoring a third of the population of Canada.

caseywor

join:2004-04-19
Mobile, AL
Reviews:
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Re: Why the Cap...

I guess it is a good thing that Canada's fastest growing cities are outside of Ontario and Quebec as well:

Calgary - 12.6 per cent (1.2 million people)
Edmonton - 12.1 per cent (1.1 million)
Vancouver - 9.3 per cent (2.3 million)
Toronto - 9.2 per cent (5.6 million)
Ottawa-Gatineau - 9.1 per cent (1.2 million)
Montreal - 5.2 per cent (3.8 million)

IowaMan
Premium
join:2008-08-21
Grinnell, IA
Wow, News like this makes Mediacom 50 Mb tier seem "Unlimited" by comparison

09129800

join:2012-06-27
New York, NY
As if that somehow makes this cap any less excusable?

"Hey, at least that Kim Jong-un guy isn't Hitler! Hitler killed more people in his concentration camps than North Korea does!"
Trencher

join:2007-02-12
Etobicoke, ON
I'm with Telus and I have zero cap... download till my hearts content!

jmad980

join:2012-06-16
Reviews:
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said by AricBrown:

Its stupid to have a 150 Mbps speed with a 250 gig cap....Next it will be "A Gigabit speed but with a 10 gig cap for $100 with overages of $1 per gig"

Sad state of internet in a lot of Canada from what I hear. Kind of stuff that makes you even more scared about data caps here.

09129800

join:2012-06-27
New York, NY
It's equivalent to leasing a Ferrari and only being allowed to drive it for three miles every month.

Rivalman
Rival

join:2004-01-18

Re: Why the Cap...

I pay $80 a month and get 500 gig.
100/10 and 500 gig for $80, good for my needs.
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Cloneman

join:2002-08-29
Montreal
kudos:2
Reviews:
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said by 09129800:

It's equivalent to leasing a Ferrari and only being allowed to drive it for three miles every month.

I'd still want the Ferrari for 3 miles, hehe

PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD
said by AricBrown:

Its stupid to have a 150 Mbps speed with a 250 gig cap....Next it will be "A Gigabit speed but with a 10 gig cap for $100 with overages of $1 per gig"

I feel like this is the right time to point out that it is entirely possible to blow through 250GB in less than 24 hours with a 150Mbps connection with very little difficulty - and that's without even counting BitTorrent (before someone here obligatorily posts such).

09129800

join:2012-06-27
New York, NY

Re: Why the Cap...

24 hours?

Try 3 1/2 hours.

You can use over 250 gigabytes of data in under four hours on a 150 Mbps Internet connection.

WHY are people paying $123 for 150 Mbps when they can only use their connection at its full speed for 3 hours the entire month?!

PapaMidnight

join:2009-01-13
Baltimore, MD

Re: Why the Cap...

No doubt, especially with multiple users in a single location.

Guest

@comcast.net
Lets see how many hours it will take to hit that cap.

Al3sinth
Trippin'
Premium
join:2003-07-08
Charleston, WV

Re: Why the Cap...

Under 4 hours...

derpity

@bahnhof.se

Re: Why the Cap...

said by Al3sinth:

Under 4 hours...

Math is a little off. Closer to 4h 40m without considering overhead.

Dustyn
Premium
join:2003-02-26
Ontario, CAN
kudos:10

Robbers

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travisc

join:2001-11-09
Uxbridge, ON

The cappers have something in common

Notice that it's the big content owners (Rogers, Shaw and Bell) with the caps? I wonder why that is...
chgo_man99

join:2010-01-01
Schaumburg, IL

Re: The cappers have something in common

to protect legacy tv revenue, and I understand in Canada, Rogers also have video store like Blockbuster in the US? That doesn't help.

yyzlhr

@rogers.com

Re: The cappers have something in common

said by chgo_man99:

to protect legacy tv revenue, and I understand in Canada, Rogers also have video store like Blockbuster in the US? That doesn't help.

Rogers have closed down all their video rental locations. And no it's not just content providers who double as ISPs that have caps here in Canada. Virtually every large MSO here has caps on their internet service.

travisc

join:2001-11-09
Uxbridge, ON

Re: The cappers have something in common

What large MSOs of note are there beyond Rogers, Bell and and Shaw? Telus, Cogeco and Videotron, I suppose. Telus is the only one not capping. The others do it because they can, since competitive symmetry allows them to do so since their largest competition is Bell, masters of the cap.

It's exactly right that they're trying to protect their TV business, and the content owning MSOs like Bell/Rogers/Shaw have further skin in the game in trying to protect their content production as well. They try to spin it as necessary to protect the network, but that's pure BS.
Rogers_Chris

join:2010-12-15
Toronto, ON

Network management policy

Our network management policy is being phased out. The process has already begun and will be completed by the end of 2012. Customers can visit www.rogers.com/traffic to find out if Rogers has removed the Internet Traffic Management Policy in their area.
HeadSpinning
MNSi Internet

join:2005-05-29
Windsor, ON
kudos:5

Re: Network management policy

said by Rogers_Chris:

Our network management policy is being phased out. The process has already begun and will be completed by the end of 2012. Customers can visit www.rogers.com/traffic to find out if Rogers has removed the Internet Traffic Management Policy in their area.

Technical ITMPs (Internet Traffic Management Policies) and Economic ITMPs are separate things.

Technical ITMPs, Rogers interferes with the stream of traffic between the customer and the host they're communicating with in order to reduce the impact of the traffic on the network.

With Economic ITMPs, Rogers lets you use all the capacity you want, they just bill you till feel the pain and stop.

Both are effective, but one is significantly more profitable. To say that Rogers is removing ALL ITMPs is utterly false, as the Economic ITMPs remain.
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HitronModem

@shawcable.net

It's a Hitron Modem, not Citron!

A Citron is a type of citrus fruit...

RMerlin

join:2009-10-09
Montreal, QC

Re: It's a Hitron Modem, not Citron!

And in French, a Citron is a Lemon. I sure hope for them these modems aren't lemons
LondonOntGuy

join:2004-05-12
London, ON

robbers

What good is all that speed if you'll just blow through your cap in a few short hours?

Nevermind, I just answered my own question.
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Brooklyn, NY
Reviews:
·ooma
·Optimum Online
·Verizon FiOS

stupid award..

If you're gonna cap a broadband service at 100mbits or above, why even bother offering it?!? Stupid, dumb, retarded, etc..

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b9ONh4FtlI

wth2012

@start.ca

too expensive

I like the speeds but the price and the cap for the service is crazy. Give me a break.

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