  TigerLordResident pentaxianPremium,Mod
join:2002-06-09
Montreal
kudos:5
 ·Acanac
Host:
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Videotron
| I wonder if Canadian ISP are investing all this money in upgrading their infrastructure simply to say "we were first" or "we are the fastest" just for an academic debate?
In practicality, nobody in their right mind is gonna pay the insane prices ISP are asking for 20,30 and 50mbit premium speeds. Paying 150$ for 50mbit with Videotron for example (with a RIDICULOUS 100GB cap) is insanity... what's the point?
Bravo Rogers, now invest in customer service! | |
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 | | | Re: I wonder because it means they don't actually have to deliver on that service, they can just say they can | |
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | 2 major reasons
1. All the telco based Canadian wireless carriers (Bell Mobility, Teluls, MTS, Sasktel, etc.) are ALL going from CDMA 2000 (1x/EVDO) to HSPA+ this month. Rogers has to keep up, or disappear.
2. The Olympics are coming to Canada this winter. Bell/Telus are deploying HSPA+ primarily to cash in on roaming revenue (and they are hitting EOL for CDMA 2000 product line). Rogers will have GSM+HSPA+, and attempt to obtain as much roaming revenue as possible for both voice+data.
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 r81984Fair and BalancedPremium
join:2001-11-14
Katy, TX
1 edit | Who cares? With their cap it is only 15kbps with bursts up to 21Mpbs.
3 cents per MB or $30 per GB is insane.
This company should be put out of business.
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| | | Re: Who cares? Put out of business LOL. | |
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|  HpowerRoflmao
join:2000-06-08
Glendale, CA
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1 edit | Agreed. I swear all these frigging ISP's putting on these insane usage caps ruins the whole point of broadband and being able to use the damn speeds you pay nearly or over $100 a month for.
I guess my signature is becoming true lol. We are becoming faster on the internet with lower caps. FAIL!
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|  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium
join:2002-03-03
Mullica Hill, NJ
kudos:4
1 edit | 5 GB/mo for A MOBILE DEVICE at those prices is fine. It isn't supposed to replace a landline. | |
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| | |  MashikiBalking The Enemy's Plans
join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON
·Bright House
·TekSavvy Cable
| Re: Who cares? There's many places here in Ontario that still have 0 broadband connectivity that are only 5-20mins from a major city center(200k-400k people). Even a 5gb cap is fine for people who need it for the sake of needing.
I know of a few places around here(oxford county), where small trailer parks for the snowbirds are now running in their own wifi stuff(5/1 60gb cap@$55/mo) because neither bell, nor rogers, nor anyone else will run the service out. However, the demand is there, the same in 'nearby' rural towns/villages(sub 1000 people).
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cacoPremium
join:2005-03-10
Whittier, AK | What is upload speed on this service? . | |
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| iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: What is upload speed on this service? Most likely 5.76 Mbps, shared. | |
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| |  GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:15 | Re: What is upload speed on this service? Not necessarily. Canadian networks aren't as poorly built as American ones.
When I tether with my iPhone (Rogers' HSDPA (7.2mbit) network via Fido), I can often get 4-5 mbit/s. If you almost triple the amount of available bandwidth without tripling the number of customers, and keep the cap about the same, wouldn't you expect triple the speeds?
I'd expect 15mbit/s or so from the new service. | |
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·Caneris
| Re: What is upload speed on this service? said by Guspaz:Not necessarily. Canadian networks aren't as poorly built as American ones. When I tether with my iPhone (Rogers' HSDPA (7.2mbit) network via Fido), I can often get 4-5 mbit/s. If you almost triple the amount of available bandwidth without tripling the number of customers, and keep the cap about the same, wouldn't you expect triple the speeds? I'd expect 15mbit/s or so from the new service. I have a iphone 3g the highest speed ive ever seen is 2megabits, that was when I was almost next to the cell tower. I will admit ive only tested it in whitby, out east of whitby and north of whitby. But results have been the same or worse everywhere ive tested it at. The latency is also redicliously bad too. | |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | How much per month? 3¢ per GB, in CAD, is about 40% lower than Sprint and Verizon charge down here, and they're the cheaper ones. Just sayin' | |
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|  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1
 ·T-Mobile US
·AT&T DSL Service
| Re: How much per month? said by iansltx:3¢ per GB, in CAD, is about 40% lower than Sprint and Verizon charge down here, and they're the cheaper ones. Just sayin' T-Mobile doesn't charge overages on their 10GB smartphone cap. Period.
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| | iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: How much per month? That, my friend, is a loophole. | |
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| | | tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
join:2001-03-28
Saint Louis, MO
kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Re: How much per month? said by iansltx:That, my friend, is a loophole. what is? The 10GB is clearly detailed, as is the fact that they don't charge overages. They rate-cap instead. | |
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join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 | Re: How much per month? If T-Mobile intended to copete on data caps/rate limiting they'd have that service available to mobile broadband users with a USB modem. Unfortunately they don't. | |
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| Wireless is the future for competition I'm not sure if rogers realizes it, but wireless could be the broadband future for competition.
I'm guessings its alot cheaper, to set up towers in and around a city, then it is to lay down a copper/fibre system.
One of the reasons north america doesn't have a strong broadband competition, is it wouldn't be financially feasible for an independant company to lay down there own set of copper/fibre. What we end up with is your local dsl internet and cable internet. Plus all the companies that resell that service (or at a minimum have to rent the last mile from said companies).
I would think wireless would drastically reduce the entry costs for independant isp's launch their own services.
If wireless speeds can keep increasing, I think it'll be the competition of the future and we might get out of the dsl/cable duopoloy rut. | |
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| | | Re: Wireless is the future for competition As much as I'd like to believe that, wireless spectrum is a scarce and very finite resource 
Adi | |
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| | | | Re: Wireless is the future for competition True, the spectrum is still finite. But I believe Canada and the USA recently held auctions for the additional spectrum gained by the digital TV transition (even though Canada will not be all digital until 2011). Isn't this why there are new entrants to the market such as Globalive/WIND Mobile? | |
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 lester
join:2005-09-01
London, ON
1 edit | Don't forget these fees for a laptop if you don't tether mistake.... please remove | |
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| | 5gb cap. What is the achievement? Nothing has been improved. | |
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| | In the Spirit of the Olympics and Foreign Visitors.... Perhaps one of these Canadian carriers will offer a PAYG broadband option where you can buy one month of service as opposed to signing a three year contract. | |
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