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Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal....
11:03AM Tuesday Sep 15 2009 by Karl Bode
tags: business · wireless · alternatives · bandwidth · Rogers Portable Internet
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As promised, Canadian operator Rogers Wireless this week started offering 21 Mbps wireless service in Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal. The new HSPA+ upgrades make the carrier the first wireless operator in North America to hit the 20+ Mbps mark. Of course you probably won't see anywhere near that actual speed, and the service comes with a 5 GB cap (plus three cents per additional megabyte), but it's a notable achievement all the same. As we just explored in detail, AT&T only just started upgrading their HSDPA network to provide maximum speeds of 7.2 Mbps downstream, with upgrades available to six U.S. cities before the end of 2009.

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TigerLord
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I wonder

if Canadian ISP are investing all this money in upgrading their infrastructure simply to say "we were first" or "we are the fastest" just for an academic debate?

In practicality, nobody in their right mind is gonna pay the insane prices ISP are asking for 20,30 and 50mbit premium speeds. Paying 150$ for 50mbit with Videotron for example (with a RIDICULOUS 100GB cap) is insanity... what's the point?

Bravo Rogers, now invest in customer service!
permalink · 2009-09-15 10:51:53 · Reply to this
jam_bongo

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Re: I wonder

because it means they don't actually have to deliver on that service, they can just say they can
permalink · 2009-09-15 11:00:22 · Reply to this

en102
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 2 major reasons

1. All the telco based Canadian wireless carriers (Bell Mobility, Teluls, MTS, Sasktel, etc.) are ALL going from CDMA 2000 (1x/EVDO) to HSPA+ this month. Rogers has to keep up, or disappear.

2. The Olympics are coming to Canada this winter. Bell/Telus are deploying HSPA+ primarily to cash in on roaming revenue (and they are hitting EOL for CDMA 2000 product line). Rogers will have GSM+HSPA+, and attempt to obtain as much roaming revenue as possible for both voice+data.
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permalink · 2009-09-15 11:21:03 · Print · Reply to this

r81984
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Who cares?

With their cap it is only 15kbps with bursts up to 21Mpbs.
3 cents per MB or $30 per GB is insane.
This company should be put out of business.
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permalink · 2009-09-15 10:59:16 · Reply to this
CoverIt

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Re: Who cares?

Put out of business LOL.
permalink · 2009-09-15 11:15:04 · Reply to this

Hpower
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1 edit		 Agreed. I swear all these frigging ISP's putting on these insane usage caps ruins the whole point of broadband and being able to use the damn speeds you pay nearly or over $100 a month for.

I guess my signature is becoming true lol. We are becoming faster on the internet with lower caps. FAIL!
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permalink · 2009-09-15 11:19:51 · Reply to this

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1 edit		 5 GB/mo for A MOBILE DEVICE at those prices is fine. It isn't supposed to replace a landline.
permalink · 2009-09-15 13:10:57 · Reply to this

r81984
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Re: Who cares?

I guess you can't read, but this is meant for laptops which are mobile devices using their mobile rocket stick usb adaptor which they advertise you can take the internet with you anywhere. They market it as a replacement for any other ISP.

With a 5GB cap and $30 a GB their service is useless.
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permalink · 2009-09-15 13:42:54 · Reply to this

Mashiki
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Re: Who cares?

There's many places here in Ontario that still have 0 broadband connectivity that are only 5-20mins from a major city center(200k-400k people). Even a 5gb cap is fine for people who need it for the sake of needing.

I know of a few places around here(oxford county), where small trailer parks for the snowbirds are now running in their own wifi stuff(5/1 60gb cap@$55/mo) because neither bell, nor rogers, nor anyone else will run the service out. However, the demand is there, the same in 'nearby' rural towns/villages(sub 1000 people).
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permalink · 2009-09-15 18:20:33 · Print · Reply to this
JSRoman
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What is upload speed on this service?

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permalink · 2009-09-15 11:19:04 · Reply to this
iansltx

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Re: What is upload speed on this service?

Most likely 5.76 Mbps, shared.
permalink · 2009-09-15 11:53:02 · Reply to this

Guspaz
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Re: What is upload speed on this service?

Not necessarily. Canadian networks aren't as poorly built as American ones.

When I tether with my iPhone (Rogers' HSDPA (7.2mbit) network via Fido), I can often get 4-5 mbit/s. If you almost triple the amount of available bandwidth without tripling the number of customers, and keep the cap about the same, wouldn't you expect triple the speeds?

I'd expect 15mbit/s or so from the new service.
permalink · 2009-09-16 10:56:49 · Reply to this

grayfox

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Re: What is upload speed on this service?

said by Guspaz See Profile :

Not necessarily. Canadian networks aren't as poorly built as American ones.

When I tether with my iPhone (Rogers' HSDPA (7.2mbit) network via Fido), I can often get 4-5 mbit/s. If you almost triple the amount of available bandwidth without tripling the number of customers, and keep the cap about the same, wouldn't you expect triple the speeds?

I'd expect 15mbit/s or so from the new service.
I have a iphone 3g the highest speed ive ever seen is 2megabits, that was when I was almost next to the cell tower. I will admit ive only tested it in whitby, out east of whitby and north of whitby. But results have been the same or worse everywhere ive tested it at. The latency is also redicliously bad too.
permalink · 2009-09-16 21:56:40 · Print · Reply to this
iansltx

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How much per month?

3¢ per GB, in CAD, is about 40% lower than Sprint and Verizon charge down here, and they're the cheaper ones. Just sayin'
permalink · 2009-09-15 11:53:54 · Reply to this

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Re: How much per month?

said by iansltx See Profile :

3¢ per GB, in CAD, is about 40% lower than Sprint and Verizon charge down here, and they're the cheaper ones. Just sayin'
T-Mobile doesn't charge overages on their 10GB smartphone cap. Period.
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permalink · 2009-09-15 12:21:25 · Print · Reply to this
iansltx

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Re: How much per month?

That, my friend, is a loophole.
permalink · 2009-09-15 12:24:53 · Reply to this

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Re: How much per month?

said by iansltx See Profile :

That, my friend, is a loophole.
what is? The 10GB is clearly detailed, as is the fact that they don't charge overages. They rate-cap instead.
permalink · 2009-09-15 15:28:13 · Reply to this
iansltx

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Re: How much per month?

If T-Mobile intended to copete on data caps/rate limiting they'd have that service available to mobile broadband users with a USB modem. Unfortunately they don't.
permalink · 2009-09-15 15:30:15 · Reply to this

Peateargriff

@shawcable.net		 It's 3 cents per MB, not GB.
permalink · 2009-09-15 12:45:29 · Reply to this
zod5000

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Wireless is the future for competition

I'm not sure if rogers realizes it, but wireless could be the broadband future for competition.

I'm guessings its alot cheaper, to set up towers in and around a city, then it is to lay down a copper/fibre system.

One of the reasons north america doesn't have a strong broadband competition, is it wouldn't be financially feasible for an independant company to lay down there own set of copper/fibre. What we end up with is your local dsl internet and cable internet. Plus all the companies that resell that service (or at a minimum have to rent the last mile from said companies).

I would think wireless would drastically reduce the entry costs for independant isp's launch their own services.

If wireless speeds can keep increasing, I think it'll be the competition of the future and we might get out of the dsl/cable duopoloy rut.
permalink · 2009-09-15 12:38:43 · Print · Reply to this

adisor19

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Re: Wireless is the future for competition

As much as I'd like to believe that, wireless spectrum is a scarce and very finite resource

Adi
permalink · 2009-09-15 13:03:00 · Reply to this
glparker4

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Re: Wireless is the future for competition

True, the spectrum is still finite. But I believe Canada and the USA recently held auctions for the additional spectrum gained by the digital TV transition (even though Canada will not be all digital until 2011). Isn't this why there are new entrants to the market such as Globalive/WIND Mobile?
permalink · 2009-09-16 01:43:51 · Reply to this

lester

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Don't forget these fees for a laptop if you don't tether

mistake.... please remove
permalink · 2009-09-15 13:07:08 · Reply to this

insomniac84

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5gb cap.

What is the achievement? Nothing has been improved.
permalink · 2009-09-15 13:17:41 · Reply to this
stufried
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In the Spirit of the Olympics and Foreign Visitors....

Perhaps one of these Canadian carriers will offer a PAYG broadband option where you can buy one month of service as opposed to signing a three year contract.
permalink · 2009-09-16 19:21:59 · Reply to this
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