  VarlikWithout Honor You Will Never Be FreePremium
join:2002-01-06
Anderson, SC | Child Porn? So that is what that company thinks of it's Usenet users, pedophiles? | |
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 | | | Re: Child Porn? Of course... Anyone knows that any file sharing technology that provides free, unrestricted and untrackable file trading is invented, deployed and used solely by child molesters. | |
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| | | said by Varlik:So that is what that company thinks of it's Usenet users, pedophiles? Of course not. They also realize that Usenet users are petty criminals stealing and sharing copyrighted material.  | |
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| | | I've never seen any child porn on usenet but if thats a problem they can always remove the group.
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| | VarlikWithout Honor You Will Never Be FreePremium
join:2002-01-06
Anderson, SC | Re: Child Porn? said by BodyBumper:I've never seen any child porn on usenet but if thats a problem they can always remove the group. :(Wish that I could say the same.
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| | | | said by BodyBumper:I've never seen any child porn on usenet but if thats a problem they can always remove the group. The sad thing is, "legal" child porn can be found right on the internet easily like this site: »gallery.greatestjournal.com
Why they would remove usenet is completely asinine. But then the mayor of Toronto is blaming the US for the recent drive by shooting at Eaton Centre. | |
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| | | | | Re: Child Porn? Actually it wasn't a drive by shooting. Approx. twenty teens were having a shootout on Toronto's busiest street on Boxing Day. (1 dead, 6 injured). He blamed the US for all the guns on our streets. He was "blaming" criminals that illegally smuggle guns into Canada.
If you want rhetoric...here's what Miles O'Brien said on CNN about it: "The murder rate in Toronto has doubled this year...a crime spree is underway." Miles (like most American media) doesn't like to confuse his audience with facts.
BTW, I plan on cancelling Rogers soon and going DSL with a small ISP. The advantages:
1. $30 vs $50 monthly
2. No bandwidth limits
3. What you do with your connection is your business
4. Customer service
5. No BS TOS agreement
6. Ted never sees another nickel of mine | |
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| | What a crock of s--t. Combat child porn, my furry pink ass. People know a cost-cutting measure when they see one. | |
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KyeU
join:2003-12-31
Canada | Religious Outburst "LET MY PEOPLE GO." | |
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tdkyo
join:2002-12-07
Rochester, NY | Pfff, not the real story At least me ISP Frontiernet has come clean by stating that it was too much a burden for them to manage when they announced that they would no longer offer the binary usenet to their broadband users. | |
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| Roop
join:2003-11-15
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| Re: Pfff, not the real story said by tdkyo:At least me ISP Frontiernet has come clean by stating that it was too much a burden for them to manage when they announced that they would no longer offer the binary usenet to their broadband users. if rogers said that and threw some statistics to back it up i'd belive them...
however their news service has sucked long and sucked hard for many a year. i've been using newshosting.com for some time now. 40 day renteion and 6mbits unlimited at $15 USD.
rogers allowed 2 connections per IP and throttle those to 32Kbytes/sec (that is not a typo). it had a good 2-3 week retention but downloading the headers took 2 days.
previous to this rogers had a very fast news provider but the retention was 12-48 hours. 72 if you were lucky.
i didn't mind the retention issue back in the day but the speed capping really was the last straw. kudos to BBR for making the people aware of roger's shady practices. | |
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@rr.com | Agreed, customers want to be treated with respect, not like they can't understand the reasons isp's do things. | |
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 scoobyPremium
join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL
kudos:1 | usenet != cheap You need a good 75tb of fast scsi disk to maintain a weeks worth of usenet. That number is also growing every week. Not sure if sata with hardware raid would be able to keep up. | |
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|  dvd536as Mr. Pink as they comePremium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
kudos:4 | Re: usenet != cheap My guess is there was also pressure from the *AA's too. | |
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1 edit | Re: usenet != cheap said by dvd536:My guess is there was also pressure from the *AA's too. i doubt that.
the AA's would need proof that people were uploading content from rogers' IPs... no real pirates use traceable usenet accounts when uploading to usenet.
rogers might be tight on most issues, especially those that affect their revenue but they don't really care about piracy.
proof you ask?
»[ Extreme] Rogers e-mail, infringing copyright | |
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| | excuses, excuses, excuses. It is always an excuse with the isp's. Just like stupid telus and there port blocking. "Its to help you the customer from viruses" LOL ya right. They just want MORE money from you to open the ports. If it was a virus issue, they would not offer the ports to be open for a price. Wonder if rogers will pass the savings along to there customers after shutting down the Usenet. LOL that's another big laugh. I'm sure there like most isp's; the Usenet is not really part of there service; at least that's the way they put it. Excuse after excuse till there will be nothing you can do on the internet except read spam mail; witch they seem to have no control over. Who knows maybe email is next to go. I thought technology should be going forward, not back to the BBS days! LOL!
excuses, excuses, excuses, now give your self a pat on the back for saving the world ISP ceo's :-p | |
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|  JammerMan79Premium,VIP
join:2004-05-13
Prince George, BC
kudos:10 | Re: excuses, excuses, excuses. " If it was a virus issue, they would not offer the ports to be open for a price."
Actually the reasoning is that if you are willing to pay for a server plan then you know what you're doing. | |
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| | | | Reply to JammerMan79
" If it was a virus issue, they would not offer the ports to be open for a price."
Actually the reasoning is that if you are willing to pay for a server plan then you know what you're doing.
I also heard that excuse as well and had a feeling someone would bring that up as well. I ran a server for years until they blocked it.I am not willing to pay extra, and I would consider my self "up to par" on things like that. I never abused the bandwidth, I just had some text articles I wrote. And yes, I am aware there are things that can be done to get around it. Its just not the same. My point was, it was an excuse. | |
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Roop
join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON Reviews:
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| sadly true "Wonder if rogers will pass the savings along to there customers after shutting down the Usenet."
the sad thing is that this seems like an honest compromise:
take away some service, reduce the price.
but of corse to rogers that's take away some service, boost profits which 90% of their sheeple won't even know about.
i guess webspace would fall after that. oh silly me, outsourced to geocities. half the functionality plus ads. no ftp.
even email is outsourced to yahoo which has many more "features" including one that allows all the spammers out there to direct their trash at your yahoo account.
what next? outsource the connection? i think i'll call it quits when my first hop is 5000ms away in india. | |
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| | Wrong! Well, they got it half right. They can't keep up with all the legal porn out there. Torrentz sites have taken a bit of the load from the groups but Usenet will always be king in that regard.
There is an incredible demand for adult porn. The ISP's just don't want to bother anymore. | |
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