 | | This just we need a tablet with a f* forced $50-$60 /m data This just we need a tablet with a f* forced $50-$60 /m data plan with high roaming fees and at a high priced for a locked in one. | |
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| | | | Re: This just we need a tablet with a f* forced $50-$60 /m data You are kidding me right? Why the hell would you want to get a tablet with out a data plan? You will 100% have to get a data plan. If you have been sleeping under a rock ATT as well VZ requires a data plan with all smart phones now, (not just for the iphone) as well as their netbooks which it should and I agree. Even if you break down the name, N E T BOOK. Why you ask? Because that is what those phones are designed for. I know your come back is going to be all about wifi and I am sure you are probably part of the group who bitchs about having to pay for hotspot use, which with att is free if they own the hotspot which they do at most of the popular places. So if you really look at it smartly you would want it to come to att. Now if you wanna look cool and just want to get a phone to text there is such a wide selection of texting phones other than BB's and other PDA's. If you didn't already know all phones have calenders and to do lists and all those other features that you are going to come back on this post and bitch about. Bottom line is data is the future and money maker behind wireless now. They hardly make money off of voice anymore and I wouldn't doubt if in the near future minutes will be unlimited and it will be data that will be metered. Last but not least did you think VZ would charge any less? Besides just being a follower and jumping on the att bashing bandwagon know what you bitching about before you do. I will go out on a limb and say you don't even have or have ever had att. Im not a big blue supporter but I also will not bash them just to do so. I have their service as well as an Iphone and have never had an issue with dropped calls or connecting to 3G. My speeds are great. Where I am its actually VZ who has no 3G and very poor service. | |
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| | | | | Re: This just we need a tablet with a f* forced $50-$60 /m data Uh, wouldn't a netbook ONLY have a Data plan? Otherwise, why would Verizon, at&t, T-mobile, Sprint, or whomever sell it? It certainly wouldn't be for voice. You guys... | |
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|  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium
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kudos:4 | At a cost of $800 to $1000, I doubt there will be any FORCED bundling. Though I would expect that one or more cell providers may offer some discount if you sign up for a data plan. That is, you will be able to buy this device retail and not only from a cell provider. | |
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| | | | Re: This just we need a tablet with a f* forced $50-$60 /m data And that's the way it should be. Users pay full price, providers add functionality for an additional price. The customer gets a choice and providers don't get shoved into the pay-now, recoup-later corner. | |
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|  tiger72SexaT duorPPremium
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kudos:1 | Then.
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| |  C0deZer0Oc'D To Rhythm And PolicePremium
join:2001-10-03
Davenport, FL | Re: This just we need a tablet with a f* forced $50-$60 /m data b-but, it's shiny... and it's Aaaapple...
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| MRCUR
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What I would really like to see is what AT&T is doing with netbooks: subsidize them after requiring the data plan and let Apple sell them for full price themselves. | |
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The world is moving to LTE and whoever will be left out will have no choice but to either either join the boat or head to bankruptcy/buyout.
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| | | Re: Apple will never make a CDMA device said by adisor19:CDMA is finally biting Verizon and Sprint in their ass. It's a dead end technology that has no forward path. Sprint is quasi doomed if they think WiMAX has a chance. WiMAX does have a chance because LTE is controlled by the 3GGP telcom industry. WiMAX is IEEE, which the consumer electronics industry is already tied into (with wifi). I don't see a mass of consumer electronic devices going LTE because it would mean the telcom industry controls it. Most CEDs will go WiMAX when the global coverage is there - they just simply drop in a dual WiMAX/WiFi chipset. WiMAX and LTE will coexist just as DSL and cable modem coexist. The cable companies probably could benefit from WiMAX the most since they don't have to lay physical cable in new markets they want to get into. The cable companies won't go LTE because it is controlled by 3GGP.
With Qualcomm creating a dual LTE/CDMA migration path, I could see Sprint going for it when needed for the voice path. Right now, they don't need to make any announcement to do so. And Verizon will take at least til 2015 to replace their network, probably much much longer. Word is, Verizon will only use LTE for data only for a while, not voice. | |
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| | | | Re: Apple will never make a CDMA device I agree with Xenophon.
But separately, I also wonder why Apple would launch a tablet with only a 3G option. Unless they want to introduce a second-gen version a year later that will force first-gen users to upgrade. Urgh. Can't we just jump to the end game here already? | |
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|  en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
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1 edit | I tend to agree... CDMA is nearing its end of life as a product for R&D/expansion. Many carriers (including all Canadian carriers) are migrating to some form of GSM/HSPA at this point. WiMAX is still a possibility, but I suspect that it will not be a major contributor for business mobility in the same regards as HSPA or LTE, as it has no ties to telecomm.
Personally, I'd like to see WiMAX be a competitor to LTE, and keep the prices decent.
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kudos:12 | Mini-PCI All these mini devices use mini-pci cards. It's likely, much like the Dell Mini, Apple will have the option of simply swapping the card for Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, whatever card they choose.
Seeing as how Cens reports on the Taiwanese industry, I can understand why they would say it is HSPDA capable. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Mini-PCI said by Matt:All these mini devices use mini-pci cards. It's likely, much like the Dell Mini, Apple will have the option of simply swapping the card for Verizon, Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, whatever card they choose. Seeing as how Cens reports on the Taiwanese industry, I can understand why they would say it is HSPDA capable. Yep, this tablet is much bigger than a a PDA or phone. Its almost guaranteed to have a mini PCIE or mini PCI card. | |
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| en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: Competition? Because there are those that are Mac fans (won't touch Windowz), and those that have money to burn.
I'd prefer a Mac over a PC, if the price was better. I compromise, purchase a cheap laptop (WalMart $399 Toshiba with 17" / Vista / 3GB RAM), and install Linux on it. Best of both worlds. Decent/cheap device + stable OS
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1 edit | Re: Competition? said by toddbs98:Apple cultist will buy whatever Steve Jobs tells them and use it on the carrier he tells them and only use the features and software he tells them they need. He has proven time and time again that his cultist are more than willing to pay premium prices for 2nd rate products such as the ipod,iphone and Mac. Really? I hope you're making an effort at being facetious, some of us prefer quality over quantity and are willing to pay a little more at the onset, knowing full well that in the end we wind up paying less for the total package than those who pay less at the time of purchase BUT must dole out a lot of money to wind up with a product that would poorly emulate what Mac aficionados get from the onset, besides, we can run whichever OS we want on any Intel Mac... if we so desire.
If what you say were true, the MacBook Air and the Apple TV wouldn't be the flops they are, would they?
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| Re: Competition? said by NwkEWR:said by toddbs98:Apple cultist will buy whatever Steve Jobs tells them and use it on the carrier he tells them and only use the features and software he tells them they need. He has proven time and time again that his cultist are more than willing to pay premium prices for 2nd rate products such as the ipod,iphone and Mac. Really? I hope you're making an effort at being facetious, some of us prefer quality over quantity and are willing to pay a little more at the onset, knowing full well that in the end we wind up paying less for the total package than those who pay less at the time of purchase BUT must dole out a lot of money to wind up with a product that would poorly emulate what Mac aficionados get from the onset, besides, we can run whichever OS we want on any Intel Mac... if we so desire. If what you say were true, the MacBook Air and the Apple TV wouldn't be the flop they are, would they? You have no idea what you are saying.
You will not end up paying less by paying twice as much for an Apple product over a PC or MP3 player.
Apple is not made any different than non apple products. They are not using any better parts. Apple is just charging you more for the same thing.
Also, you can run OS X on a PC for a lot less than buying an Apple computer.
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| | | | | | Re: Competition? Apple is charging extra for the software and the "seamless experience" it offers when paired with their hardware (their words, not mine). I have been a PC guy my entire life and the Apple iPhone was my first real Apple purchase -- and I will never consider switching back to a "normal" phone again. | |
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| | | | | Apple hardware has less quality than a good brand motherboard. I really don't care what system people use, I use them all... All PCs have problems. Apple is no better than a "Windoze" or "Linux" system. It's mostly marketing and eye candy. ...and it's different than Windows. Different is not better or worse, it's just different.
I have a PC that is rock solid reliable. I've had Macs that were rock solid reliable, and I have a linux box that is rock solid as well. I've also had some of all three that were pains in the arses, broke down, got the BSOD, Candy Cane Swirl of death, etc... | |
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| | | | | | Re: Competition? said by jjeffeory:Apple hardware has less quality than a good brand motherboard. Asus makes the Macbooks... So, are you saying that Asus makes a lower quality product than its own product?
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Don't get me wrong, there are quite a few Apple products that I like, but other products are just not worth their cost. | |
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| | | Re: Verizon said by rit56:Maybe Apple had a look at Verizon Wireless's new pricing plan and decided they don't want to participate in overcharging and gouging their customers. I hope Verizon doesn't get it. That would be an opposite day now wouldn't it? Apple hasn't seen a high price they didn't like... LOL as if Apple cares about their customers... | |
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| | Physically yes. Software support, no. They will probably have the physical capability for it, but the software will block it from being used.
You will have to wait until 2nd gen to get it enabled. | |
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| en102Canadian, eh?
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| | Apple and cost I always try to stay away from PC vs. Mac discussions but, if Apple makes something people want or don't need they will still end up buying it. Even their flops such as Apple TV, the newton, and the Macbook Air still managed to sell, not like the ipod/iphone but they still ended up as collectors items to people. If this is announced in Feb as rumored the people who always have to be on the bleeding edge will be there in line on day 1 to get it. If Steve Jobs were to also announce that day the "iSuit" or "iBrain" which would have a list of features so long it would take 12 hrs to read all of them off and it would be a cyberbrain like Ghost in the Shell (»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_t···_Complex) and it cost $500,000, and there was a 1% chance that when it crashed/died you would become brain dead there would still be a line around the block on day 1. Again ,I take no sides on the PC vs. Mac endless battle since I am just happy that technology has come so far in such a short time. | |
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