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HSDPA service to go live in twenty major markets...
12:50PM Monday Jul 07 2008 by Karl Bode
tags: business · wireless
Back in May, T-Mobile finally launched 3G services in the NYC market, and promised that users would see a broader wireless broadband launch later in the year. That broader launch, which will include twenty-some major markets (a list can be found here, sorry Ohio), is scheduled for October 1 according to information obtained by TMO News. The company spent $4.2 billion last year for 120 1700Mhz licenses in order to offer UMTS/HSDPA, and a major 3G launch is well, somewhat overdue.

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patcat88

join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY

map

So wheres the coverage map? Or Tmobile hiding how shitty their network is?
gizmopt2002

join:2004-09-10
Fox River Grove, IL

Re: map

Someones a little bit of a pissy pete, aren't we?

I'll tell you that around here T-mobile is great, and I have been out of contract. My friends with Verizon seriously lack service, and often times text messages aren't received.

I'm looking forward to the launch and debating whether I should wait or not to get a new phone.

djdanska
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Re: map

said by gizmopt2002 See Profile :

Someones a little bit of a pissy pete, aren't we?

I'll tell you that around here T-mobile is great, and I have been out of contract. My friends with Verizon seriously lack service, and often times text messages aren't received.

I'm looking forward to the launch and debating whether I should wait or not to get a new phone.
I have had t-mobile service in the chicagoland area since 2003 and can say i am very happy with them too. They sucked pretty bad when i first got them but after a few years, they improved a lot. Every month for like 2 years, they added another tower or two. I still make a habit of checking »compass.t-mobile.com for new towers. It's a good feeling to know my provider is actually adding towers and i can look and see them online. (I think sprint does the same thing though)

I have 2 coverage issues still though. One being my moms condo in tampa. Poor signal and they have been promising a new tower for 2+ years now. And second being the cta subway system. I have not heard anything about that lately. I know at&t doesn't have coverage there either. Just cdma coverage. (I think u.s. cellular at least. Maybe sprint or verizon too. I don't know much about cdma coverage in the red/blue lines).

en102
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In So-Cal, T-Mobiles network is very good. It was Cingular's (PacBell Wireless) network originally, and AT&T now uses what was AT&T Wireless.
»compass.t-mobile.com
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Kyle

join:2003-10-15
Toledo, OH

Re: map

the Cali and NY markets are actually a partnership of ATT and T-Mobile. Both state this all over the place. Especially when ATT and Cingular became one.
djeremy

join:2004-07-12
San Francisco, CA
My T-Mobile coverage here in SF is fantastic. I have no issues. You can always go to their website and see street level coverage as well.

»www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx
pabster

join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
Yeah, because AT&T's 3G has such a tremendous footprint.

3G has been a laugh in the USA from the get-go. By the time these jokers get their 3G networks running coast-to-coast 4G will be widely deployed elsewhere.
EPS

join:2008-02-13
Hingham, MA

Re: map

We have two 3G carriers with excellent coverage... shame they use CDMA2000 1xEV-DO rather than UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA, though.

tiger72
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i'll also say that i've been extremely happy with t-mo's network.

Now if only we can get some 1700mhz 3g phones...

supergirl

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Hate to tell you, they are launching it next month from my understanding. Gotta sell @Home first.

T-Mobile's only good in a big, big city though. I finally, finally just have my personal cellphone. They are cute but a ROYAL PITA when a corporate one.

...Now, I just wish that crew from VZ Wireless would stop following me around. Weirdos!
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Jerm

join:2000-04-10
Richland, WA

it took this long because...

I have a friend who works for Tmob in Seattle, and he was telling me its taken them this long to launch because even though the won the spectrum last year, it's taken forever for the previous spectrum squatters (ie other goverment entities) to get off the sold spectrum. It's been a mess!

Ka0z

@bngmail.com

WTF

As a T-Mobile user myself, I honestly say...

WHO CARES? Why the hell are they using AWS? Seriously, why couldnt they use the SAME BANDS EVERYBODY ELSE USES? So we're forced to use their shitty low-end phones that they charge a ton for? I'll stick to my EDGE based iPhone on T-Mobile untill theres a phone thats worth paying full price for.

This is ridiculous.

CarterStClai
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join:2002-04-17
Sugar Land, TX

Nice backup

I might plug a card into my router as a failover WAN when Comcast is down...depends on the monthly fee.
Cjaiceman

join:2004-10-12
Aurora, CO
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T-Mo sucks in Denver

Two of my friends were on T-Mo's network and for no reason it would drop a call. They went through several phones and lived in different parts of the metro area, but still had the same crappy service. My Sprint work phone is almost as bad, its not the phone as I have had it replaced a couple times, its just their network sucks. At least in the Denver metro area AT&T and Verizon are the ones to get. I like AT&T a little more as they now have 3G, which is fast, I can usually get about 1.9-2.1Mbits/sec down while on Verizon I can only get about 1Mbps down. I also like the idea of the SIM card so I can run my TyTN II, and not have to buy the AT&T Tilt.

The point is, T-Mo sucks around here and is a joke at best. As for my friends that had T-Mo, they got AT&T and they have never looked back. Dropped calls are a thing of the past, I can't actually remember the last time I dropped a call on AT&T or Verizon...
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HotRodFoto
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Re: T-Mo sucks in Denver

said by Cjaiceman See Profile :

Two of my friends were on T-Mo's network and for no reason it would drop a call. They went through several phones and lived in different parts of the metro area, but still had the same crappy service. My Sprint work phone is almost as bad, its not the phone as I have had it replaced a couple times, its just their network sucks. At least in the Denver metro area AT&T and Verizon are the ones to get. I like AT&T a little more as they now have 3G, which is fast, I can usually get about 1.9-2.1Mbits/sec down while on Verizon I can only get about 1Mbps down. I also like the idea of the SIM card so I can run my TyTN II, and not have to buy the AT&T Tilt.

The point is, T-Mo sucks around here and is a joke at best. As for my friends that had T-Mo, they got AT&T and they have never looked back. Dropped calls are a thing of the past, I can't actually remember the last time I dropped a call on AT&T or Verizon...
I'll second that one, used to have T-Mobil here in Denver also, more dropped calls than a teen break up on the phone. Horrible service. Verizon has won me here.
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jfmezei
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1700 ?????

Ok, let me get this straight:

GSM is at 900 and 1800 wordwide, 850 and 1900 north america

3G is 2100 worldwide, but 850/1900 in north america, and now they are adding 1700 in north america ?

How many handsets will be true "world" handsets with all that mismash of frequencies ?
kingofdsl

join:2002-12-11
Afton, OK

Re: 1700 ?????

It's not that hard to mix frequencies anymore.

KA3SGM
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Re: 1700 + 2100

The AWS frequency uses 1700MHz Phone to Tower AND 2100MHz Tower to Phone, but the bands don't line up with other Countries, as 1700 is unique to the US.

You can't blame T-mobile USA .01 for this nightmare, it's the good old FCC's doing, and what bands they were able to vacate from other users to take to Auction.

T-mobile only purchased the AWS spectrum that was available to them.

It was either that, or no 3G ever, aside from them purchasing another heavily spectrum laden carrier such as Sprint/Nextel, which is still a possibility, since Verizon is currently tied up with acquiring Alltel.
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stufried
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Re: 1700 + 2100

I don't blame TMobile, but I'm not sure whether the network is worth investing in.

TMobile's EDGE network is a great bargain. I am afraid that with a little bit of 3g on an off frequency, they will start charging the same rates for their data as the other guys.

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Re: 1700 + 2100

said by stufried See Profile :

I don't blame TMobile, but I'm not sure whether the network is worth investing in.

TMobile's EDGE network is a great bargain. I am afraid that with a little bit of 3g on an off frequency, they will start charging the same rates for their data as the other guys.
I already have a T-Mobile Nokia 6263 phone that is UMTS/WCDMA capable on 1700-2100 UMTS, although we are still operating on GSM, but I dread to hear what they eventually charge for HSDPA.

At least they have ample competition, and being late to the game, they might initially offer some impressive deals to attract new customers, or draw them away from their competitors.

As deciding whether or not the network is investing in, I see Cricket(Leap Wireless) and MetroPCS now building out their new networks, and their target is FLAT RATE local voice plans.

There is still money to be made in Wireless Data, and I am still waiting to see where T-Mobile goes with it.
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TowerTechVegas

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AWS/GSM Spectrum Clearing

Hey guys, one of the +'s with TMO's upgrade to AWS is that currently all the EDGE traffic occupies existing voice channels. Once AWS is operating (around Aug/Sept for So Cal and NV) it will free up all the previously used edge channels for voice; ie, fewer dropped voice calls. We have recently completed the install of 186 AWS sites in the Vegas market. TMO is drive testing and optimizing them now.
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