Re: Terrible news...
said by IPPlanMan:I doubt rushing is causing more deaths. More likely just the total amount of work on towers this year means more workers are at risk. I'd like to see a stat like number of tower deaths per total hours worked while on the tower.
Terrible news to hear. Condolences to the families.
Sprint's in a rush with LTE? Couldn't have fooled me.
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Re: Terrible news... Agreed.
Right now you have all four carriers putting new equipment online. AT&T for LTE in at least three different bands (lower 700, AWS, CLR). Verizon for both upper-700c and AWS, depending on the area. Sprint for both phases of Network Vision (initial 800/1900, then 2500/2600). T-Mobile for its PCS H+ and LTE, though they don't have a lot left to do.
I don't think there's been this much tower climbing activity in the US, ever.
Re: Some things you can't rush... That's the problem. They are using sub-contractors and sub-sub-contractors. They should work like the wireline side, with a Union so that only the Union guys with company equipment adhering to strict rules and procedures could go up the towers. Without a union, they can hire any yahoos to do it, and this is what you get... My company does work far off the ground, 50+ feet above concrete. Our workers don't fall, and don't die. There are very strict rules and procedures regarding OSHA compliance, if you're more than 6 feet off the ground, you have to have fall protection. That includes guys in JLG lifts and the like.
Re: Some things you can't rush... Can't believe a whole 35 minutes has passed since you posted this and some knuckle-dragger hasn't posted a rant about how terrible unions are.
Re: Some things you can't rush...
said by eco:I'm more amazed that BiggA is arguing *for* unions. Never thought I'd see the day.
Can't believe a whole 35 minutes has passed since you posted this and some knuckle-dragger hasn't posted a rant about how terrible unions are.
Re: Some things you can't rush... A carrier's lack of foresight and planning is not the customer's fault. LTE is the new shinny and is being heavily marketed by the carriers. Yes customers want their carrier to deploy LTE, but not die trying. There is irresponsibility going on with these deaths and blaming the customers is just a straw man argument.
Re: I love statistics.... Actually, Loggers (Lumberjacks) are number one and Fisherman are number two in the US. The Government just recently issued the latest report. Tower workers didn't even make the top 10, nor did Police or Fire (In spite of all the hoopla raised by their unions in order to get even better contracts next time). They were followed by pilots, roofers, ironworkers, sanitation workers, power linesmen, truckers, farmers and ranchers, and construction laborers.
These figures are reached by factoring the death rate per 100,000 workers in the industry.
Re: I love statistics....
said by 54067323:The number of Government Workers (local, state and federal) as a whole dropped in 2012 to the lowest number since the Bureau of Labor started keeping statistics, this even after factoring in those that died of massive coronaries while attempting to get out of their cars after eating yet another dozen donuts. said by ropeguru:
Same could be said of firefighters and police officers.
When comparing deaths per hundred thousand police and firefighters have a rather safe job compared to those who work in construction.
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said by moldypickle:Young, inexperienced and invincible are not the makings of a "long term" tower climber, add to that a bit of weed smoked at the top and on a descent it may all go real south, real fast.
PBS documentary on the subject. Definitely a look into what the problems are. Good watch too
Now please understand, I have no knowledge if anyone involved in any of those accidents did such, I can only relate to my experiences in that industry, it was for many a right of passage once they got "high" enough.
Re: Who did they work for?
said by batterup:At $10 per hour what do you think???
Were these represented linesmen like JCP&L or guys picked up that morning looking for day work?
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Re: Cellphone tower catches fire in Sanford, Florida We did that up here in the Philly area too.
Also a welding job gone wrong:
They recently lit another candle up the road in New Jersey as well:
In both cases, the workers got off the tower without any fatalities.
Go figure, the heliax type cables are relatively flammable foamed-polyethylene insulated, PVC jacketed.
The whole monopole-type tower is hollow, with large cable(and air) entrances at the bottom, and the top wide open, it's a natural chimney.
NFPA and local codes are going to change after this, requiring either plenum rated cables, and/or fire-stop foam blown into the tower.
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