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A judge has ruled that Richard O'Dwyer, the 23-year-old creator of sharing site TVShack, can be extradited to the United States. There he would be tried for copyright infringement and could face a five to ten year jail term in America.
O'Dwyer's website offered up links to other websites, which in turn hosted pirated copies of the latest movies and TV shows. The site didn't host any pirated content, and the servers were not in the US. The computer student also handled the site's operations from the UK.
The court heard that the creator earned upwards of £15,000 per month from advertising placed on the site.
The original URL, TVShack.net, was seized by US authorities in July 2010. O'Dwyer then moved the website to TVShack.cc, which was also seized in November 2010. In that month police officers from the UK and America seized equipment from his home in South Yorkshire.
No criminal charges followed from the UK authorities, but the US Customs and Border Protection agency wants O'Dwyer handed to them -- hence this hearing.
Judge Quentin Purdy of Westminster Magistrates' Court has ruled that the US authorities should be able to extradite the student. "There are said to be direct consequences of criminal activity by Richard O'Dwyer in the USA, albeit by him never leaving the north of England," Purdy said, as quoted by The Guardian.
"Such a state of affairs does not demand a trial here if the competent UK authorities decline to act, and does, in my judgment, permit one in the USA."
The ruling comes in light of growing concern over Britain's extradition treaty with the United States, especially in the internet era. Gary McKinnon, a British hacker with Asperger's syndrome, is still fighting extradition to the US after breaking into Nasa and Pentagon servers in 2005.
In their coalition manifesto, David Cameron and Nick Clegg stated, "We will review the operation of the Extradition Act -- and the US/UK extradition treaty -- to make sure it is even-handed". O'Dwyer's mother was quoted as saying "They need to pull their fingers out."
The student's defence team pointed out that the only UK prosecution of a similar site, TV-Links, ended last year with the case being thrown out. The defence plans to appeal Purdy's decision.
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Chicago, IL | Re: British TVShack founder can be extradited That students website had user submitted links.
Which definately falls under the same 1st amendment rights that classified ads sites fall under when users post links to illegal things.
If this goes to trial the student will win otherwise journalism and classified ads sites will also be targeted. | |
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And fuck the MPAA. Maybe if their member companies filmed everything they showed in the US in the US, I might have some respect for them. These SOBs are the kings of offshoring jobs to foreign countries. | |
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| | | | Re: DC Can't Do Anything Right I blame this law even being talked about on the liberals. They are destroying the Constitution and Hollywood is liberal central. Liberals love taken our freedoms away from us. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: DC Can't Do Anything Right said by dr3yec:I blame this law even being talked about on the liberals. They are destroying the Constitution and Hollywood is liberal central. Liberals love taken our freedoms away from us.
As one of the most opinionated right-wing conservatives on this site, I find the fact the fact that a positive number of Republicans support this bill, or any bill that benefits the entertainment industry to be appalling. This industry has been no friend of the GOP in any sense of the word, but the stupid GOP clings to the idea that if it appeases enough left-wing interests it might get some support.
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Chicago, IL | Re: DC Can't Do Anything Right Its all about corporate lobbying.
The entertainment industry 'buys' politicians to get them pass the bill. They dont use the internet or even know how it works.
I guarantee you that Romney supports SOPA. | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: DC Can't Do Anything Right said by Oh_No:Its all about corporate lobbying.
The entertainment industry 'buys' politicians to get them pass the bill. They dont use the internet or even know how it works.
I guarantee you that Romney supports SOPA. Oh I know... this crap is like the NDAA, bipartisanship at its worst.
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Chicago, IL | Re: DC Can't Do Anything Right Here is a list of congress that support SOPA.
»projects.propublica.org/sopa/
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1. Lamar smith ,the same hardcore fox noise candidate of Repug origin from the George bush state of Texas is the prime sponsor of the bill
2. A lot more teaparty terrorists support this bill including the Koch brothers
3. the republican policy of "Rich only, everyone else needs to die" is in tandem with this initiative | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: DC Can't Do Anything Right said by nutcr0cker:As much as the rightwing neocons love to blame the liberals for this the facts are otherway around
Wow, I had no idea that Sen. Patrick Leahy was a Republican.
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| | | | | | | | | Re: DC Can't Do Anything Right Perhaps you had no Idea either that Lamer was a neocon of your linking either and that kenyan Obama also opposed SOPA. Maybe faux news failed to educate you correctly okay time now to continue watching faux news | |
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Mount Airy, MD | Re: DC Can't Do Anything Right said by nutcr0cker:Perhaps you had no Idea either that Lamer was a neocon of your linking either and that kenyan Obama also opposed SOPA. Maybe faux news failed to educate you correctly okay time now to continue watching faux news
Yawn.
Just because a handful of Republican idiots support this crap doesn't change the fact that Hollywood has always been in bed with the Democrat party. Even then, most of the senators and representatives who are running away from this are GOP, not Democrats.
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So you're saying Patrick Leahy is a Republican? Wow...
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both bills have cosponsors from both sides
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And your blame would be only half right.
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Mount Airy, MD | said by IowaCowboy:SOPA and PIPA will probably (and should) be declared unconstitutional as it interferes with legitimate content, which infringes on free speech. Therein lays the rub. We basically have to hope that at least 5 black-robed get it right.
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A lot of CD's do not have DRM and can be easily copied? As opposed to the ones that do that fail to play on certain players because they do not conform to the internationally established CD standard? And some even expose your computer(s) to rootkits/malware? I think I'll take the former over the later. In regards to music, most if not all of it has gone DRM-free by now. Although the AAC files being sold on iTunes have your account info embedded, so if you leak them to P2P, you might be hearing from RIAA. Not sure if the same is true of MP3's being sold on Amazon and Google Music. In any case, ever since major online outlets went DRM-free, the CD is finally going the way of the dodo and is becoming less and less relevant these days.
With that in mind, I wish that video industry learn from music one and make video content DRM-free as well. Although RIAA still supports SOPA/PIPA, IMO they are not as vocal about it as MPAA is. If only MPAA were to realize that locking content down and limiting what their paying customers can do with it drives them to piracy instead of increasing sales. Besides, most if not all DRM used with VHS, DVD, Blu-rays, etc. has been miserably defeated anyway. Oh, and while they are at it, can movie industry please produce something original as opposed to endless sequels, remakes and reboots? Some of the stuff that they keep putting out lately is not even worth pirating, let alone paying to see.
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Weird Al tries to get permission first out of respect.
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Oakland, CA | An irresponsible response? WTF!
A protest by websites whose members mostly agree to the action is irresponsible? And these websites " intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests"?
C'mon man!
Do they think we are idiots? Yes they do, and when you view the majority of U.S. citizens, most of us are idiots because statements like that can sound very compelling when not well informed. These people are writing new legislation that protects their corporate interests at the expense of a truly open internet. | |
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Boycott MPAA & RIAA
1.no going to a theater
2.no buying of new products
3.cancel any digital subscription that gets them into your wallet
4.purchase only new INDIE Non-RIAA & MPAA films & music
5.purchase only used physical MPAA & RIAA stuff
6.do not let these assholes into your wallet and spread the word
There you go.There is an appropriate response to a bully who thinks they can shut me up in a little house of their making.
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Just f**king incredible that these corporate swine actually don't think they are also abusing power.
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| Abuse of Power? These website are abusing their power?!?! Yea, like the RIAA/MPAA doesn't abuse its power to have influence on legislators that us regular folks cannot have. I'm all for stopping piracy but I'm tired of being told we should create legislation that can hurt mutiple industries in the name of protecting another. Come up with SMART and FAIR legislation and quit treating your paying customers like criminals and business might just improve for entertainment industry. | |
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| | | | Re: Abuse of Power? said by TheWickerMan:I thought the same thing when I read that idiotic quote. This is a classic case of the pot and the kettle.
This is worse. Maybe the Pot (MPAA) can call the Kettle (Google) black - they are both for profit corporations. In this case though, they decided to call the fine china black too - Wikipedia is a non-profit! | |
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IF we all do the same and spread the word maybe we can try and defeat this crap!
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Surely the MPAA would never skew facts about the harm being done to corn farmers because so many of us are pirating movies and thus avoiding the movie theaters and hence not buying as much popcorn... just to further their corporate interests.
Oh, wait... what was I thinking. The MPAA isn't a "[gateway] to information" so it's okay for them to skew facts. | |
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| | MPAA Please drop the bill(s) and figure out some other way to make money without harming the internet and consumers. Thank you. | |
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| said by Mr Matt:IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR EVERYONE THAT READS THIS POST AND THIS NEWSLETTER, SIGN ALL AVAILABLE PETITIONS OPPOSING THE SOPA AND TO DISCUSS THE ATTEMPTS OF THE SPECIAL INTEREST PUPPET MASTERS TO POISON INTERNET FREEDOMS BY PASSING A LAW THAT ALLOWS TAKING DOWN FREE SPEECH WITHOUT JUDICIAL REVIEW. USE SOPA AS AN ILLUSTRATION OF HOW CITIZENS RIGHTS ARE BEING USURPED BY THE SPECIAL INTERESTS THROUGH PAY OFFS TO LAWMAKERS.
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Madison, AL | What? Publicity stunt? Noooooo... Why would companies and individuals possibly want the general public to know about this piece of shit corporate legislation or want their representatives to know that they know?
Of course this is a publicity stunt, because that's exactly what the MPAA/RIAA DOESN'T want - people to know. If people don't know, then there wouldn't be any resistance to it sliding through into law.
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1) Criminalize the "Whoops es", the "Mistakes" the "Accidentally on Purpose" take downs and put the Attorney General and his minions AND the Entertainment Industry CEOs and their minions in prison for 10 years (No parole) for the first offense. The economy will prosper as we build scads of prisons to hold them and hire tons of new Correction Officers.
2) Allow anyone to claim damage from an illegal take down (including people deprived of watching or listening to the item involved) and let THEM set the value of the damage for a civil claim, just as the Recording Industry does now. Again it will improve the economy as new companies with workable ideas come to life to replace the old, bankrupt companies, not to mention all the "Instant Millionaires".
I really think these two small changes could make this the greatest bill Congress ever passed. | |
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| | | Re: I 100% Support SOPA * I like those changes. Lets keep your changes and throw out the rest of the bill, just apply them to the current take-down notification scheme. | |
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Charlotte, NC | I agree with this balance. Not if this kind of mistake has already happened. Everybody else has to go to court the why should this group get a I think they are doing something wrong shutdown of a honest site.
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White City, OR | MPAA says its to stop Piracy wont support more refined law? SOPA & PIPA co-sponsor/s continue to make claims that this bill is about stopping piracy and protecting consumers but they are still forcing this bill down our throats despite numerous (probably intentional) oversights that enable the bills potential(certain) abuse to censor the Internet.
What makes it apparent to me that this bill is just one way for them to grab more power and control over something they don’t understand is that they will not even mention or acknowledge the alternative bill "Open Act" that deals with piracy in a much more directed and specific manner not just taking entire sites offline.
Check it out.
»keepthewebopen.com/
They insist that because we don’t support SOPA & PIPA we are somehow in cahoots with pirates and are making money somehow from the sales of pirated and counterfeit products. They do not admit that those in opposition to SOPA & PIPA will generally support the "Open Act". Perhaps we should investigate how the bills co-sponsor/s are going to benefit from the passing of this bill?
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1 edit | Cuba Gooding on a morning news show today. He was asked for his input on SOPA. As he is involved in the movie industry.
His take was that open access is important to the world. Things like wikipedia, youtube, google would be harmed by SOPA.
But on the same token, pirates are harming the industry, because the copies of the programs that are being downloaded are typically subpar with original format/release of the media. So that hurts the industry as a whole. He also used the whole "radio/TV broadcasts that are free", hence why the whole issue with the "piracy" thing. But he over looked that advertisers/the broadcast stations paid for the rights to transmit the music/shows.
I dunno if Mr. Gooding has downloaded or watched any pirated media, but i have seen a lot that was just as near good as theater/DVD release. Granted I have seen some whose quality left a lot to be desired.
I do think something has to be done. What/how, that is something that needs to be agreed upon all sides involved.
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Gaithersburg, MD | Hmmm... If Orrin Hatch, lapdog to the entertainment industry has pulled any support, that tells me this sucker's pretty much dead. And it's proven to be such a thornbush of an issue I'd be VERY surprised if any politician would even go near any variation in the future.
Seems that America might finally be waking up to some stuff. I don't recall EVER seeing such overwhelming opposition for an issue from so many directions, all across the board. Even the mainstream news couldn't ignore this one.
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We really need to introduce a pro-consumer, fair copyright bill and name it something like The Don't Rape And Kill Children Act. Then, when the MPAA/RIAA (and their political "friends") oppose it we can ask them the obvious question. 
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The SOPA is a form of poison to the internet freedoms. The way to poison someone is to not tell the victim that you are giving them poison while you are poisoning them. The victims here are the middle class citizens. The members of the MPAA and top management are wealthy. They are the only citizens that can afford to pay off our legislators and pay millions for propaganda in the form of deceptive advertisements.