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| Good to see someone with visibility taking notice Shame Wikipedia+etc. didn't show the same attention to the legislation that absolved AT&T from colluding with the NSA to clone/store our internet traffic.
At least they showed up to this fight. That's way better than nothing.
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kudos:4 | Re: Good to see someone with visibility taking notice Will Dslreports go dark tomorrow? | |
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| | | | Re: Good to see someone with visibility taking notice Doubt it. The site already has a decent enough userbase that are aware of SOPA/PIPA. Wouldn't make much sense as those blackouts are to bring awareness to the general public which sites like Wikipedia have plenty of. | |
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kudos:4 |  Twitter not going to go dark
Twitter co-founder Dick Costolo tweeted that it would be “foolish” and “silly” to shutdown a “global business in response to single-issue national politics.” Many took this to mean that Costolo believed any site that goes black (or, more likely, shows an anti-SOPA/PIPA landing page in place of normal content) over a single bill is “foolish” and “silly.”
So, will the Jan. 18 blackout be a success? Who knows. But you can be sure we’ll be checking Twitter all day to find out.
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kudos:4 | Facebook will celebrate anti-SOPA day by violating privacy
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The world's largest social network will be holding a press event in San Francisco tomorrow unveiling the first group of Open Graph actions that share user activities from outside the site with its users, All Things Digital is reporting, citing sources.
So, if a user is listening to a song, watching a television show, or reading a news article across the Web, it can be shared on Facebook for friends to see. Those friends can then join in and do the same. At F8, Zuckerberg said that the idea could create "a completely new class of social apps than what was ever possible before."
Facebook said that all the content shared won't show up in a person's news feed. Instead, the data will be found in their Timeline, with the ultimate goal of creating a visual record of what a person has done over the course of several years.
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| | | | | Re: Facebook will celebrate anti-SOPA day by violating privacy said by Romney2012:Facebook has plans of their own for anti-SOPA day - roll out their privacy abusing Open Graph initiative.
My solution to that is to stop using Facebook.
As for the Twitter twits: Money over ethics. What do you expect of such places? Twitter, Facebook, etc. are "social" only in that a lot of people use them. Of social consciousness, they have little. Witness Facebook's nev er-ending stream of privacy-wrecking antics.
It won't mean anything in the greater scheme of things, but I may take my sites down tomorrow, too. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Twitter not going to go dark said by Romney2012:http://news.yahoo.com/twitter-not-join-jan-18-sopa-pipa-blackout-170609000.html
Twitter co-founder Dick Costolo tweeted that it would be “foolish” and “silly” to shutdown a “global business in response to single-issue national politics.” Many took this to mean that Costolo believed any site that goes black (or, more likely, shows an anti-SOPA/PIPA landing page in place of normal content) over a single bill is “foolish” and “silly.”
So, will the Jan. 18 blackout be a success? Who knows. But you can be sure we’ll be checking Twitter all day to find out. I agree with Twitter. Of course you do..
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kudos:4 | And SOPA bill marches forward in February, blackout notwithstanding:
»judiciary.house.gov/news/01172012.html
House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) today said that he expects the Committee to continue its markup of the Stop Online Piracy Act in February.
Chairman Smith: "To enact legislation that protects consumers, businesses and jobs from foreign thieves who steal America's intellectual property, we will continue to bring together industry representatives and Members to find ways to combat online piracy.
“Due to the Republican and Democratic retreats taking place over the next two weeks, markup of the Stop Online Piracy Act is expected to resume in February.
“I am committed to continuing to work with my colleagues in the House and Senate to send a bipartisan bill to the White House that saves American jobs and protects intellectual property."
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kudos:2 | Re: Twitter not going to go dark I bet Chairman Smith has no idea how to use a computer. | |
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| | | | | | | Re: Twitter not going to go dark said by Rob:I bet Chairman Smith has no idea how to use a computer.
I bet he knows enough of the computer to check his bank statement to ensure the "industries" are continuing the support donations  | |
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| said by Romney2012:http://news.yahoo.com/twitter-not-join-jan-18-sopa-pipa-blackout-170609000.html
Twitter co-founder Dick Costolo tweeted that it would be "foolish" and "silly" to shutdown a "global business in response to single-issue national politics." Many took this to mean that Costolo believed any site that goes black (or, more likely, shows an anti-SOPA/PIPA landing page in place of normal content) over a single bill is "foolish" and "silly". In support of Dick's commentary, I offer the following insightful quote:
said by Crackers the Parrot : It's Foolish and Silly - Foolish and Silly - BAARRACK! NV
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| said by Romney2012:http://news.yahoo.com/twitter-not-join-jan-18-sopa-pipa-blackout-170609000.html
Twitter co-founder Dick Costolo tweeted that it would be “foolish” and “silly” to shutdown a “global business in response to single-issue national politics.” Many took this to mean that Costolo believed any site that goes black (or, more likely, shows an anti-SOPA/PIPA landing page in place of normal content) over a single bill is “foolish” and “silly.”
So, will the Jan. 18 blackout be a success? Who knows. But you can be sure we’ll be checking Twitter all day to find out. I agree with Twitter. agree until the Gov decideds that things are being posted on twitter you should not see,,,,,,,, then you can no longer see twitter...this bill gives them that power......sad that a co founder of something like twitter is too stupid to see that LOL
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: Good to see someone with visibility taking notice What would be awesome is if Google and Yahoo blocked all requests coming from a .gov domain and all domains owned by the entertainment industries.
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kudos:4 | Re: Good to see someone with visibility taking notice said by Kearnstd:What would be awesome is if Google and Yahoo blocked all requests coming from a .gov domain and all domains owned by the entertainment industries.
Oh, so you are NOT against blocking of domains - as long as Google & Yahoo are the ones doing it. And not MPAA or RIAA or an ISP. | |
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| | | | | Re: Good to see someone with visibility taking notice As an act of protest, I agree. As a government legalized action like SOPA, I would not. | |
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| said by Romney2012:Oh, so you are NOT against blocking of domains - as long as Google & Yahoo are the ones doing it. And not MPAA or RIAA or an ISP. The MPAA or RIAA is welcome to block all the domains they like.
What Big Entertainment must not do is bribe MY legislators to direct government agencies to order domains blocked on their behalf.
Were they to do so, they would be engaged in government corruption.
An electorate that allows it deserves the corrupted government they will certainly get.
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Mullica Hill, NJ | said by Romney2012:said by Kearnstd:What would be awesome is if Google and Yahoo blocked all requests coming from a .gov domain and all domains owned by the entertainment industries.
Oh, so you are NOT against blocking of domains - as long as Google & Yahoo are the ones doing it. And not MPAA or RIAA or an ISP. Actually you just did not understand my wording I guess. I meant on the 18th Google should block all requests. Meaning that someone operating from with in a .gov location or from behind an MPAA or RIAA domain would be unable to access Google or its services.
Not google blocking access to view those sites.
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said by Kearnstd:Actually you just did not understand my wording I guess. I meant on the 18th Google should block all requests. Meaning that someone operating from with in a .gov location or from behind an MPAA or RIAA domain would be unable to access Google or its services.
Not Google blocking access to view those sites. Exactly. I believe this is referred to as refusal of service. For example, if you run a restaurant (or any other kind of business for that matter), you can refuse service to anyone. Not sure how Civil Rights laws would apply here since you cannot refuse service on basis of race, sex, age, ethnicity, religion, etc.
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| | | | | said by Romney2012:Oh, so you are NOT against blocking of domains - as long as Google & Yahoo are the ones doing it. And not MPAA or RIAA or an ISP. This is a different kind of blocking we are talking about. When you are hosting a web site, the web server(s) and other equipment that it is running off and/or is feeding its content is your property. With that in mind, you are free to block whoever and whatever you want. You are the one doing the talking, and therefore you can technically exercise control over who should and should not be able to hear you. This is similar to employers blocking certain websites from their corporate networks. The work computers and network is their property, and they have full right to decide what can and cannot be done with it.
What Hollywood is trying to accomplish with SOPA/PIPA is to prevent certain "voices" from being "heard", pretty much to an extent that you should not be "hearing" anything that they don't like. IMO, and as many will agree, it's not for them to decide.
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| | | Re: Congress doesn't care The point isn't for Congress to see this. The point is for regular folks to see it and contact Congress. | |
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| | shut down the whole internet shut down the whole internet, and see the world go dark if SOPA bill passes | |
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| Re: shut down the whole internet Closing it all down, people would setup their own private networks in response.
Should I dig my modems out and connect them to my own
linux box for people to dial in like the 80's and 90's?
I still have PC board kicking around if you want to go that far backwards. | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Naw just have someone "accidentally" dig up the fiber optics going into the government buildings, so the lawmakers understand what the internet will be like with SOPA.
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Billings, MT | Another freakin' acronym.. Yep.. We have SOPA and PIPA..
It's just a form of ACTA for this country. I wonder what the other countries are trying to push on their citizens. | |
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Lakewood, OH | american what sopa and pipa will do is make other countries shift the responsibility of the internet away from the states so they can control it themselves and not be under the US laws even if they dont reside in the states. | |
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| | I am glad I am not 1st level support..... Tomorrow will be so much fun for 1st level support. I am sure they will appreciate this because we all know that the average person won't care or understand what all the fuss is about | |
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Mullica Hill, NJ | Re: I am glad I am not 1st level support..... Yea hopefully the ISPs have their Phonebots ready to minimize the calls actually reaching a CAE. doubt they will though.
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| | boycott would be better How does shutting down your site and censoring yourself send a message to Congress? You just did SOPA / PIPA's dirty work for them.
A boycott of the music and Hollywood people behind this nonsense would hurt them more. Money's the only thing they care about.
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| | | Re: boycott would be better It's showing massive amounts of people that it's a serious issue and raising awareness. I'm sure thousands if not millions visit these sites and have no clue what is even going on with SOPA/PIPA. This would bring it to their attention | |
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| | | | Re: boycott would be better said by tman852:It's showing massive amounts of people that it's a serious issue and raising awareness. I'm sure thousands if not millions visit these sites and have no clue what is even going on with SOPA/PIPA. This would bring it to their attention
But those thousands or millions don't matter to our elected representatives. I doubt my Congress critters even know what those sites are, but those critters are the ones who will vote.
You have to speak to them in language they understand, or it's all sound and fury and no substance, just like the Bard said.
And sadly, I'm willing to bet over half the massive amounts of people whose awareness you want to raise will go right out and spend money on a movie or a tune and never see the irony in it. | |
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| | | | | Re: boycott would be better said by goalieskates:But those thousands or millions don't matter to our elected representatives. I doubt my Congress critters even know what those sites are, but those critters are the ones who will vote.
If your Congress critter doesn't know what Google or Wikipedia are, they they have no business voting on any legislation that pertains to them. | |
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| | lol I like how in the article, it says isps will become content babysitters. That's funny if true. | |
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| Re: lol said by anon6 :I like how in the article, it says isps will become content babysitters. That's funny if true. It's what Time Warner has wanted all along.
To "safeguard it's customers", TW would like to allow - only content it owns - to travel freely across it's networks. Everything else would be subject to an inspection fee.
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kudos:1 | we need it The blackouts will do good being soo many didn't even realize this crooked crap was gonna slip through in the first place! Help make people aware and they will help fight this sorta BS.. | |
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Madera, CA | Re: we need it I'm surprised Facebook didn't join in, they should do the same thing Wikipedia is doing. On FB they would been sure to get the attention of the ppl who are un-aware of this. I can guarantee that most ppl don't even know about this. | |
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Madera, CA | NoScript on Wikipedia If you have NoScript and you still want to check out Wikipedia, just disable Wikipedia.org and Wikimedia.org and you can now it is unblock.
Not sure if this will work with other sites, but thought I let you know.
I'm surprised Wikipedia didn't use some process to prevent NoScript users from doing this, but I suppose not many ppl use NS anyways. | |
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| Re: NoScript on Wikipediasaid by Madtown:If you have NoScript and you still want to check out Wikipedia, just disable Wikipedia.org and Wikimedia.org and you can now it is unblock. I already had this filter in place in adblockplus.
|http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special*BannerListLoader*
I was using it to avoid looking at Jimmy's unshaven mug every time I went there to learn something new.
It lifts the anti-Sopa curtain as well.
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SOPA and PIPA are just indicators of a much broader problem. All around the world, we're seeing the development of legislation intended to fight online piracy, and regulate the Internet in other ways, that hurt online freedoms.
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