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join:2005-05-23
Geneva, IL | Re: Ummmmm Not until the Illinois Senate ratifies SB 678 and is signed by the Guv... | |
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join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH | Re: Ummmmm Ohio is next according to this article, but Ohio hasn't passed state wide frachising, yet. SB 117 has passed the senate, but is still in the house. | |
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join:2005-04-17
Millersburg, OH | Re: Ummmmm state wide franchising ?
so what does that mean for me in Embarq's territory | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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| Re: Ummmmm said by wvcaver  :state wide franchising ? so what does that mean for me in Embarq's territory It doesn't mean a thing for you as you will never see more than DSL. | |
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join:2003-11-13
Cleveland, OH | Too bad.... Most of the west side of Cleveland can't get DSL service. We're stuck with TWC until someone (SBC) gets their act together and starts upgrading their equipment. | |
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MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
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Jigsaw
Stardust We Are
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join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH
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| Re: YAY! said by MarkyD :for sub-par technology! I live in Cleveland they can keep there U-Whatever.
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana
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| Re: YAY! Yeah, I'm 200 ft. from a VRAD! and all I see is a straight line tap to the NSA when I look at it (and some cheap SOBs who think I'll be impressed by copper VDSL  )
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join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Re: YAY! yea to bad Verizon and Qwest let NSA tap too but i guess FiOS makes that ok
>.> not like this hasnt been going on since the 60's at lest | |
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Corona
It's cool, I'm takin it back
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join:2000-03-14
Aubrey, TX | 14 minutes, what, were you asleep or something?  | |
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join:2007-03-03
1001EB | ahh yes and so is your sub-par comments here.
»Review of AT&T FTTP by MarkyD
Man if you are not the poster child of spin I don't know what is. What next... tell us the sky is green? | |
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MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
clubs: | Re: YAY! have you lost your mind? What in there was spin? What in there was not fact? | |
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Hype83
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join:2003-08-19
Lafayette, LA | u got burned mr d lol | |
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RIRWIN1983
join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH | Columbus It's sad that the capital city of Ohio, Columbus, has to wait till Dec 24. And it will be funny to watch all the at&t tech's trying to access the VRADS have we have had a big snow and the cabnet doors wont open, should be very enertaining. | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
·Embarq
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| Re: Columbus said by Hall :said by RIRWIN1983 :It's sad that the capital city of Ohio, Columbus, has to wait till Dec 24. What does being the capital have to do with anything ?? it doesn't; chances are AT&T is going by size of the cities; Cleveland is easily the largest city in Ohio, and is rapidly expanding towards the Akron area; it only makes sense (from a profit standpoint) to deploy here first.
It'll be interesting to see how well this system turns out...too bad it probably won't be deployed in rural areas....of course, that doesn't really matter as I'm in Embarq territory. | |
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join:2002-05-28
Tallmadge, OH
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| Re: Columbus Actually, going by population size, Columbus is the largest city with 730,657 people. Cleveland has 452,208. Note, both of these figures are for the population within the city limits, not including the suburbs.
If you include the suburbs, then the Northeast Ohio area is the most populated area of Ohio. | |
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Fox McCloud
Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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·Sprint Mobile Broa..
| Re: Columbus correct.
but, see, most often, when someone mentions "the city of XXXXX has Y many people" they usually mean the city and the suburbs.
I just wonder how much longer it'll be before Akron and Cleveland completely collide to form a huge megalopolis... | |
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RIRWIN1983
join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH | if they expect to get there statewide franchise to pass, it be smart to get this up and going in the city where the movers and shakers both state and city level work. | |
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join:2005-08-30
Columbus, OH
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| Re: Columbus i would hope it would be a fair level decision as well. of course thats what local franchises were suposed to be when the started, now they are a revenue source for communities facing hard times, and a way to get projects the community cant afford to do, be paid for by the provider in exchange for them signing off on the franchise. | |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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| Re: Columbus said by RIRWIN1983 :i would hope it would be a fair level decision as well. of course thats what local franchises were suposed to be when the started, now they are a revenue source for communities facing hard times, and a way to get projects the community cant afford to do, be paid for by the provider in exchange for them signing off on the franchise. CATV franchise are no longer relevant. CATV, telephone and internet are now carried over the same wire. IPTV can and is provided by anyone why should only the companies that takes all the risk by providing the network have to pay? | |
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trparky
Bite My Shiny Metal Ass
Premium,MVM
join:2000-05-24
Cleveland, OH
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| WOOHOO! YES! About damn time it comes to Cleveland. I've been waiting for a long time.
Now, if only they can provide two DVRs. I don't need a third receiver, I just want two DVRs.
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Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | Re: WOOHOO! Why would anyone want a DVR when VCRs and DVD-R's exist. | |
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Gilitar
join:2000-11-20
Mobile, AL | Logo? Please change the logo..... | |
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join:2005-08-08
Birmingham, AL | At least they changed the logo... | |
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | . I wonder if the techs get hazard pay for working in Detroit. | |
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join:2006-09-03
Marietta, GA | Re: . well not all of detroit is bad; West Bloomfield/Bloomfield Hills is one of the richest suburbs in America I think | |
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en102
Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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| Re: . Novi, Farminton Hills isn't bad either. Just don't go south of 8 mile at night... the streets aren't even lit up (or at least wasn't when I was last there).
The 'Subway' restaurant on Telegraph/4 mile had glass similar to most banks with a turnstile for your sub. First time I've ever seen it in a Subway - usually just a sneeze guard will do.
When I asked, they stated all the stores in the plaza have been held up. I grabbed my lunch and left... quickly. | |
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MarkyD
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
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1 edit | this is just silly Every time I read about U-VERSE, I shudder. It's just such a half-asked project...
-6/1 is the top speed tier. Customers are getting 25mb/sec in total bandwidth for TV and internet. Why can't they make that dynamic...allowing unused bandwidth when the TVs are off to go to the internet speed? That would make it a little better, but not the best. Not even close. Cox is already offering at least 2x that speed here in Oklahoma City.
-Only 1 HD stream. Period, plain and simple...there is NO excuse for this. The other guys have been offering multiple HD streams for years now. Rolling out a product that can't even stream more than 1 HD channel at a time is absurd.
-Inferior HD picture quality. The compression they are using to squeeze all this into 25mbps of bandwidth is really, really poor.
I could go on. No wonder the take rate for the UVERSE areas is so low! AT&T can't even get it right on their FTTP customers, much less FTTN. | |
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AlphaOne
I see
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join:2004-02-21
| Sacramento ... August 20!
We'll see. I wonder what part of Sacramento will get it first.
Competition is good. Either U-verse will succeed or not, it'll still be a competition as far as Comcast is concerned.
They better improve their service or lower (roll eyes) the price.
It's a win-win situation for consumers/customers.
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join:2002-08-20
Oklahoma City, OK
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| Re: Sacramento ... it says OKC launch in August. Either AT&T has done a most excellent job at hiding the VRADS (unlikely), or they are only rolling it to a VERY Select area here in NW OKC. that's the only place (besides Edmond, [rich people]) that I'm seeing any VRADs. OKC's a big place...I wonder how many homes will have it available on that launch date?
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join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | Re: Sacramento ... I bet you can count that # on your 2 hands. | |
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join:2002-05-17
Palm Desert, CA
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | Tennessee? My estimation, sometime in 2027 when it doesn't matter anymore. | |
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ominae
join:2003-05-11
Columbus, OH
| What I don't get... ...is how AT&T will be offering U-verse (one HD stream and a 6/1 internet offering) as an upgrade? I live in Columbus where they already offer 6/768 DSL (see this link: »https://swot.sbc.com/swot/dslMassMarketC···YNAMICIP). I can't see how adding one HD stream is that much of an enticement to ditch my RR. At best they are being cautious, at worst it's a useless investment in technology that will need to be replaced, and replaced soon, to remain competitive. This is a complete waste. | |
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join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | Re: What I don't get... agreed....but careful, some sensitive Telco aficionado might label you a cable shill.  | |
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| ominae
join:2003-05-11
Columbus, OH | cable, dsl, fiber, satellite or bpl, it makes no difference. offer me a superior product at a fair price and i'll be your customer for life (or until somebody offers a better deal). | |
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tmc8080
join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY
| boycott the service please I hope AT&T sees a massive scale boycott of xdsl services so that they get the message their technology rollout was not exactly what the consumer wanted. When a company does broadband on the cheap they need taught a lesson in economic sabotage.. namely extremely low subscription potential customers. Then MAYBE, just maybe AT&T will start giving up the REAL deployments. with FTTP | |
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join:2003-12-05
Mesquite, TX | Re: boycott the service please In the meantime, get ready for the blissfully ignorant positive spin, which can only come close to the kind of PR spin Sony delivers on a regular basis. | |
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| cdheer
join:2004-04-28
Gurnee, IL
| said by tmc8080 :I hope AT&T sees a massive scale boycott of xdsl services so that they get the message their technology rollout was not exactly what the consumer wanted. When a company does broadband on the cheap they need taught a lesson in economic sabotage Well that's just silly.
Why boycott? If people actually want it, shouldn't they get it?
The problem, as always, on forums like these is we all start to believe that we are the average consumer. We're not even close, of course. Plus, as others have pointed out, it's competition. Even if you don't like it, if it makes the alternative services better and/or cheaper, you win.
I believe that AT&T will eventually upgrade to FTTP. I believe that they started out with FTTN for cost purposes so they could afford to upgrade as many areas as possible. As subscriptions start rolling in, they can use that to finance the FTTP upgrades. (Their rollout schedule is far more aggressive than FIOS, which has creeped along rather slowly and cost a lot more.)
Do I want U-Verse as it stands today? Hell no. I can get 10/10 (shared) service from an RF provider and I currently get 4 HD streams from DirecTV simultaneously. U-Verse would be a downgrade in every sense.
But I think I understand their strategy, and perhaps U-Verse or some competitive IPTV service will be my choice in a couple of years. | |
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meister_sd
Premium
join:2006-01-29
La Mesa, CA
1 edit | None of you are from San Diego! I am in the San Diego region and I thought it would be nice to get all that the hype offers me. Here is my response:
We're Sorry
AT&T U-verse service is not yet available based on your entry.
So, as most of you post - so much bull crap. Amazingly AT&T, Cingular, SBC or what ever they call themselves now.... Still want an arm and a leg to watch/see/hear anything. Oh well, time to pay the bill. Just wonder who will cash it...................
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join:2002-07-25
Cleveland, OH | It's June 18 in Cleveland and no UVerse yet... Well, ATT, what's up? | |
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San Diego U-Verse Launch
