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| Re: Train other countries?! When the IP is owned by people/companies in the US, then yes, the US has a valid reason to educate other countries. If countries are members of the WTO, then they should already be educated, but a refresher might not hurt. Since Canada is a member of the WTO, expect your reeducation shortly 
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| Re: Train other countries?! Too bad laws are different in other countries and we're in no way obligated to honour your insane 60+ year copyright laws which magically seem to get longer and longer.
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part Even a broken clock is right twice a day. | |
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Land O Lakes, FL | Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part Sad to see that a broken clock is right more than the current band of elitists controlling the House and Senate. | |
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Laguna Hills, CA | The whole bill should have been vetoed. We don't need bigger gov't to service as private police for racketeers like the RIAA. | |
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by Dogfather  :The whole bill should have been vetoed. We don't need bigger gov't to service as private police for racketeers like the RIAA. The gov't isn't protecting RIAA. It is protecting "intellectual property" rights of many industries. And "intellectual property" makes up a larger and larger part of the US GDP and an even larger part of our exports. It is helping protect our economy from pirates.
said by Lineage :Train other countries?! WTFriggingheck? Yes, train other countries. Because it helps to get foreign countries to enforce laws protecting "intellectual property" rights of US companies and helps protect a large part of US exports.
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1 edit | Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part Here's where you are wrong TK.. Are you ever Right (nope)?. Tax Payer money shouldn't be used to protect the interests of PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. It' is THEIR JOB, NOT tax payers to do that... So yes, this is Big Government and Big Brother again. This time from the Democrats. Usually, it's been from the far right, but the left is starting their own stupidity. I'm amazed Bush was the one with COMMON SENSE here. This must be an alternate reality when I hear that said. | |
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1 edit | Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part But when the RIAA actually has to go to court and do their own dirty work they lose. So they have to buy off Congress to do it for them. | |
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| said by jc100 : Tax Payer money shouldn't be used to protect the interests of PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. It' is THEIR JOB, NOT tax payers to do that. The US government has been protecting the US economy, especially where foreign trade is concerned, since the US was founded. Read a little history before making invalid claims.
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1 edit | Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by Dogfather :Oh yeah, our EXPLODING trade deficit and decimation of our manufacturing sectors through outsourcing is proof the Federal gov't is protecting the US economy. What horsecrap. You are commenting on the governments ability to do a GOOD job. NOT on their responsibility to do the job at all. The job needs doing. It just needs to be done better. Maybe the new law will help them do that.
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Laguna Hills, CA | Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part More pro-corproate laws and bigger gov't aren't a solution. | |
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| While i agree with you TK that GOVT has the responsibility I have little faith that this new bill will actually result in them DOING a good job. IF there were bigger penalties for those in Congress, Judicial, and enforcement then I might have some faith. But until you see them held to the same standards that our military is held to (98% do The Right Thing and are held to it)then nothing will change. And onestly its do to a degradation of the morals of society. Things that are acceptable to the majority today would not have been tolerated 50 years ago.
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by bear73 :While i agree with you TK that GOVT has the responsibility I have little faith that this new bill will actually result in them DOING a good job. IF there were bigger penalties for those in Congress, Judicial, and enforcement then I might have some faith. But until you see them held to the same standards that our military is held to (98% do The Right Thing and are held to it)then nothing will change. And onestly its do to a degradation of the morals of society. Things that are acceptable to the majority today would not have been tolerated 50 years ago. I agree with you that the job isn't being done well. But I strongly disagree with those(like some above) that say since the job is hard to do and has been done badly, that it shouldn't be done at all. That makes the situation 10x worse. But there are many who think lack of morals and anarchy are a preferred way to operate in.
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part So let's see. If you can't do it right, you should still try anyway? That works well. I mean hell, we got Iraq. We messed that one up, but YAY WE TRIED. Everyone in DSLREPORTS give us a cheer. Give me a break dude. Do you read what you write, or just type so you get responses out of us? Things need to be planned and executed and the cost weighed. With our economy going to SHIT, and taxpayers spending 700 billion PROBABLY, these PET PROJECTS are the last thing we need. Americans are losing their houses, jobs, etc. We don't need to be protecting corporate interests at our expense. IT IS THEIR JOB to protect THEIR PROPERTY. | |
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by jc100 :So let's see. If you can't do it right, you should still try anyway? You're right. We should capitulate and allow our society and economy to further degrade. That will help the situation. The US wasn't founded on the attitude of "hey, I didn't do it right the first time so I'm going to give up". But then again, maybe that attitude has allowed our country to get where it is today. | |
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by openbox9 :The US wasn't founded on the attitude of "hey, I didn't do it right the first time so I'm going to give up". But then again, maybe that attitude has allowed our country to get where it is today. But that is the attitude of so many of the slackers that now are in school or unemployed. Just give up; watch videos on the internet or listen to the stolen music on their iPods.
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part Stolen Music?
Just like walmart is about to do to paying customers?
Steal what has already been paid for.
Yea TK.. The government always looks out for the citizens, i mean look at our universal health care, oh wait we blew all that cash in iraq.
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part Universal healthcare ha...It took 5 weeks to get into see my family doctor that's the legacy of universal healthcare. Seriously are people still pushing for that down in the States?
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by Mashiki :It took 5 weeks to get into see my family doctor that's the legacy of universal healthcare. Just an aside, even here in the US, I have had to wait that long to see my neurologist at the time and, on occasion, a little over three months to see my PCP. This isn't a community clinic, but a private foundation hospital with an EXCELLENT reputation.
said by Mashiki :By-the-by and going back to topic, I'd suggest going for a CD levy down there. Not sure if you are kidding or not, but a CD levy addresses the problem from the wrong angle, especially when you consider that most infringement is not done with physical media. It might have made sense back before everyone had high speed internet and still relied on copying discs.
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1 edit | said by LiamJunket :said by openbox9 :The US wasn't founded on the attitude of "hey, I didn't do it right the first time so I'm going to give up". But then again, maybe that attitude has allowed our country to get where it is today. But that is the attitude of so many of the slackers that now are in school or unemployed. Just give up; watch videos on the internet or listen to the stolen music on their iPods. Sorry I have to disagree with having a bigger government role. The current system works. There is the DMCA and it is enforceable once a person is caught. To make the FBI now go after people seems like more money spent in the wrong direction the US has other issues.
Terrorism is more of a threat to the US then copyright intriguers.
Artists can sue or the RIAA has sued and done much to make people aware of illegal downloads even suing them.
Now tax dollars via:FBI will educate other countries.
Why not the RIAA and the like spend there money on catching the people responsible, but no spend US tax dollars not like the US already has financial issues lets just throw that in the 700 Billion bailout and call it an ear mark.
If someone takes your property then you take them to court.
It has always been that way.
Why should the Elite few (artists) get special help from the FBI when the RIAA has enough money to track down illegal file sharing?
Waste of money and politically motivated by lobbyist's, as usual pay someone in office to pass a bill.
EDIT: FYI the FBI goes after Drug dealers along with state and local authorities because Drugs are priority to them.
Does the FBI stop people from taking drugs or deter them?
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| said by LiamJunket :said by Dogfather :Oh yeah, our EXPLODING trade deficit and decimation of our manufacturing sectors through outsourcing is proof the Federal gov't is protecting the US economy. What horsecrap. You are commenting on the governments ability to do a GOOD job. NOT on their responsibility to do the job at all. The job needs doing. It just needs to be done better. Maybe the new law will help them do that. wow, I actually agree with that statement. | |
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| Protecting the economy is NOT what this bill does. It protects PRIVATE CORPORATE interests at the expense of the Tax Payer. You bitch and bitch about big government, then support this law? Seriously, WHY SHOULD MY MONEY be spent to ensure PRIVATE interests. If you ran a car dealership, is it the cities duty to make sure it doesn't get broken into? Should they station a cop there 24 hours a day / 7 days a week JUST for your business? That's exactly what the RIAA is getting. A 24/7 Private police force that TAX PAYERS are footing the bill for. Police in a community protect everything , NOT JUST ONE asset. We're paying for this PRIVATE COMPANY to have their own force. What a joke. You can't justify it and there's nothing that you will say that will give justification. Go ahead and try. There's a huge difference between setting up an organization to see EVERYONE'S interests versus dedicating it to ONE SPECIFIC entity. Either way, tax payers shouldn't foot the bill on something like this pet project. End of story. | |
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by jc100 :It protects PRIVATE CORPORATE interests ... WHY SHOULD MY MONEY be spent to ensure PRIVATE interests. I know I can talk until I am blue in the face and you will NEVER get it or agree, but the law is to protect all IP(intellectual property) and not just the RIAA or MPAA. And protecting Corporate interests also protects about 75% of the US economy. Don't like that? Too bad.
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1 edit | Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part Protecting Intellectual Property is ONE THING. However, that is still PRIVATE ENTITY and the FBI is already there to do that. We do NOT need to spend MORE BILLIONS to set up separate departments to do the job. We already got ENOUGH FAILURE on their part. Can we say 9/11 anyone. Our money doesn't need to be further SQUANDERED to facilitate someone else's BUSINESS.
READ ABOVE. If you owned 10 car lots in 10 states, SHOULD TAX PAYERS cover the cost of stationing a 24/7 police officer there to make sure you CARS ARE NOT STOLEN. After all, your business HELPS the economy too. So let's just have EVERY BUSINESS get PRIVATE PROTECTION that OUR money is used for. That's what you are advocating on a GRANDER SCALE.
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1 edit | Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by jc100 :If you owned 10 car lots in 10 states, SHOULD TAX PAYERS cover the cost of stationing a 24/7 police officer there to make sure you CARS ARE NOT STOLEN. After all, your business HELPS the economy too. But we do use tax revenue to fund and support law enforcement...to include protecting your 10 car lots. What am I missing? | |
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| Aren't there enough laws already to protect IP? What about copyright laws, DMCA? Are you saying that 75% of our economy is IP? It should be in very good shape now if that is the case since our IP is pretty safe. Unfortunately, the stock market doesn't seem to agree with your definition of 75% of economy. | |
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2 edits | Where are you getting your corporate interests protects 75% of the US economy, when small businesses have produced half of the GDP of the US?
In a recent study of 16 major industrial sectors, the share of GDP accounted for by small employers held steady at 50 percent over a seven-year period, ranging from 18 percent in the information sector to 85 percent in other services, the agency said. Source: »www.inc.com/news/briefs/200704/0416gdp.html
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Alexandria, VA | Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part Small businesses can own IP as well. IP owners don't have to be large international corporations. | |
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| said by jc100 :This time from the Democrats. Usually, it's been from the far right, but the left is starting their own stupidity.  They started their own stupidity in the '30s!
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part Which was??? The Great Depression was due in part to what we have now. No regulation. Except back then, banks were not FDIC. So when they went under, they took everyone's money with. There were a LOT of banks in that era who were taking money and investing it in companies who had no real assets. Many companies inflated their worth and there were no checks to see if anything was true. That was the fault of the whole system back then. We should have learned from that and fixed it 70 years later. Last I recall, Republicans ran things the last 8 yrs. Matter of fact, if you go to the bls.gov website, every year republicans are in office, Unemployment and Crime go up. When Democrats are in, both go down. Strange, ay =). | |
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by jc100 :When Democrats are in, both go down. Strange, ay =). Ah. So let's just kill all the Republicans, and the right wingers, and be done with it.
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| said by jc100 :Here's where you are wrong TK.. Are you ever Right (nope)?. Tax Payer money shouldn't be used to protect the interests of PRIVATE CORPORATIONS. It' is THEIR JOB, NOT tax payers to do that... Tell that to the $700bln+ bail-out plan on the table!
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part Pretty much for people who argue against anything socialized. My belief, the government is needed AT TIMES but it should not be there to help private companies who make STUPID DECISIONS. It's one thing for tax payer money to build Roads, Fund Schools, Maintain Public Safety (Fire, Police, EMS), etc. It's another thing to expect tax payers to foot the bill for a PRIVATE COMPANY who offers NO REWARD to tax payers who will no doubt be on the losing end of this scheme. | |
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2 edits | said by LiamJunket :Yes, train other countries. Because it helps to get foreign countries to enforce laws protecting "intellectual property" rights of US companies and helps protect a large part of US exports. Even if the foreign laws of intellectual property rights are different than US Laws?
Tell me TK are they gonna teach foreign companies US law or their own laws? If that's the case what laws are going to be more supreme, the laws of the US or the laws of the foreign country that the US companies choose to do business in?
I think foreign countries know their laws pretty well. After all, they did pass them. The last thing any foreign country want is some other country coming in and "training" them what the foreign country's laws are and it should be done their way. Many countries would consider that a threat of their sovereignty.
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| but from what i can tell, the bill is focused more on protecting the 'IP' of the entertainment industry than protecting the IP of companies like Intel, 3com, GE, Boeing, Cisco, etc.. i always seem to seem to come across articles on how NBC, RIAA, MPAA, or some crappy singer (or some manager to a whiny, crappy band in the case of U2) on how people 'stealinz there philez'. i don't have any respect or pitty for the entertainment industry as they rake in millions of dollars by any means necessary to pay people that don't contribute a lot of good for society and when they do produce something, all it is is just the same old crap (or good made into crap) in a different packaging. last time i checked, america got to where it is today because of engineers, scientists, people in the high technology scene, and the like. the entertainment industry didn't develop that pushed america (or any other country) ahead. i think the entertainment industry has become a cancer upon society that needs to be put into check. | |
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| Nice try, but that had nothing to do with the provision being dropped - the Democratic controlled Senate Judiciary committee couldn't care less about what the Bush Administration wanted. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), Author of the Internet Tax ban, Section 230 of the CDA, Net Neutrality and Net radio champion, held up the bill until that section was removed. There are actually good sections of the bill (basically focused on preventing dangerous counterfeits of physical goods) but the civil enforcement provision would have been a disaster for the Internet.
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| Re: Thank Senator Wyden for killing the "Govt suing infring... said by JSM88 :Nice try, but that had nothing to do with the provision being dropped - the Democratic controlled Senate Judiciary committee couldn't care less about what the Bush Administration wanted. Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR), Author of the Internet Tax ban, Section 230 of the CDA, Net Neutrality and Net radio champion, held up the bill until that section was removed. There are actually good sections of the bill (basically focused on preventing dangerous counterfeits of physical goods) but the civil enforcement provision would have been a disaster for the Internet. It's nice how TK wants to claim credit for the Republicans, but unless they actually went and hit someone with that letter they sent, the Bush administration had about as much impact on this issue as an arthritic chicken. That is your opinion. The press disagrees with you.
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| Bush finally did something smart.
and this is a total total waste of my tax dollars.
War on drugs-Failure
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| maybe we do lack some of the older morals today but i also think the MPAA and RIAA are also at fault for p2p piracy. they did a full frontal attack on napster and then took nearly a decade to respect that digital delivery without DRM is logical and what the people want. and if you cant provide people what they want in this digital age then someone else is able to. moral or not.
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| Re: Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part said by pandora :That will stop it from passing for four or five months. Is there a position on this bill by Senator Obama or Senator McCain? The Senate passed it with the offending section removed. The House is expected to take it up today or tomorrow.
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| the DMCA is in violation of copyright law imo. it makes things illegal which are still legal. US Copyright Law says i can copy DVDs for personal use. the DMCA says i cant because i have to break the encryption.
its like setting a speed limit of 75, auto makers putting a 55mph governor on cars and another law making it illegal to remove the device. that is the DMCA.
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| maybe so but the Music and Movie industries buy these laws to increase their profits. if the RIAA and MPAA had their way nothing would ever enter public domain and copyrights would be infinite in length. we need a firm time limit, seriously 20 years is plenty of time for an entertainment IP owner to make money off the work. especially corporations who are cranking out new stuff every week.
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| USA will be 1930's recession now in no time GREAT bring more fascism into it and big plutocratic govt.
In time it will all spiral into chaos and millions will have no food no health care and the jail system will implode into a citizenry of the damned.
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Elf Wizard
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Mullica Hill, NJ
| Copyright as we know it should be Abolished we need new more reasonable copyright laws. as of current the laws do not properly serve the public(which is the point of laws). right now media will not enter public domain until nearly 100 years after the creator is dead. proper laws would end the copyright 20 years after the creation of the media, like a how a drug patent expires. you have X-number of years to make it profitable and then it goes public domain. if you cant make it profitable in that 20 years then tough luck you loose and made a shitty product.
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NOCMan
Verizon Fios User
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join:2004-09-30
Flower Mound, TX
| How is it that this gets passed before fixing the economy. It seems these retards have nothing more pressing right now, but they manage to pass this piece of legislation?
People need to get their priorities straight.
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| Re: How is it that this gets passed before fixing the economy. you seem to forget that fixing this country doesnt put wads of money into law maker pockets. being bribed by the RIAA does. sadly the public and the nation as a whole looses per usual.
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Mechanicsburg, PA | Clearly, we know who the government works for. | |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA
| Copyright Czar? Who cares about the copyright czar? I mean, it's a waste of money, but that's all it is. Same goes for the "educating other countries" positions -- they're a waste of money AND an annoyance to other countries, but not particularly dangerous.
Now, the part about civil forfeiture (which is still in there) -- that's dangerous. That means if TKs buddies at the RIAA say your IP address is used for infringement, they can take your computer and all associated networking hardware -- by suing the equipment, no rights for you. With a teeny stretch they can take the house it is in as well. | |
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Schlomo_Lipshitz
@rr.com | Re: Copyright Czar? I'm sure a copyright czar will do as well as the drug czar has done.
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clickwir
join:2001-06-21
Dickson City, PA
1 edit | Once again... Once again... it should be the burden of the copyright holder to police and enforce their copyright... not the work of the government.
I wish I could vote for my tax dollars to NOT be used for such bullshit. This does not help "the people", this only helps "big corporate". What ever happened to the government of the people... and for the people?
I live in the U.S. and I don't want us telling other countries what to do and how to do it. Just leave the rest of the world alone to do their own thing. USW is not what I want. | |
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join:2003-05-01
Salt Lake City, UT
| It has much to do with tracing the activity The RIAA has run into many obstacles when it comes to tracing IP activity to an actual user. A government authority like the one they are setting up will have no problems with that at all. Proof they can use in civil court is what the RIAA really wanted here, and now they will have all the proof they need from a very reliable source.
At least there is still a way to obtain all the mp3's I want without risking my financial future. I just record songs from digital radio stations to high bitrate mp3 files on my PC with a system called HD RadioPC. The mp3's are of much higher quality than those you buy from iTunes and the like. The best part is that its completely legal for me to do this, so I dont need to worry about copyright czar's. I only spent like $30 bucks for a reciever along with an interface and software, and now I have an enourmous music collection. | |
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@rogers.com | Re: It has much to do with tracing the activity Where do we have the money for this. America is 11 trillion dollars in debt.
Do bazooka hank and comrade bernanke also have the money for this? Now the printing press is being used to fund more government projects that wont do anything | |
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Salt Lake City, UT
3 edits | Re: It has much to do with tracing the activity If your discretionary budget is really that bad, then maybe you need to re-evaluate the direction you have chosen for your life, and concentrate on improving your financial future rather than posting in stupid forums like this.
For the rest of us, entertainment is simply something we refuse to give up. We know that the sky is not falling and that the economy will recover and go on as it always has in the past. America has seen much more challenging times before this and that never stopped us.  | |
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Senate Creates Copyright Czar
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Thank Bush for killing the "Govt suing infringers" part
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