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One month left for them to come to an agreement...
(old news - 06:31PM Monday Oct 01 2007)
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There's now one month left before the temporary ban on Internet taxation expires November 1. A chance to extend the ban late last week was scuttled in the Senate after lawmakers continued to fight over whether the ban should be permanent or temporary. The ban, which was originally passed in 1998, was extended in 2004 for three years. ISPs have joined forces to support a permanent ban, while opposition to a permanent ban comes from the States themselves. ISPs say broadband prices could rise by 17% if the ban expires.

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grydlok

join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA

Tax

Congress "This is easy money"

ISP "The subs going to blame us for a rate hike"

Congress "To Hell with the subs we need more money to do dumb sh@# with"
BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN


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October 1st, @06:51PM

Re: Tax

said by grydlok See Profile :

Congress "This is easy money"

ISP "The subs going to blame us for a rate hike"

Congress "To Hell with the subs we need more money to do dumb sh@# with"
Apparently reading comprehension wasn't your strongest subject. Congress WANTS a ban. The issue is whether it should be permanent or temporary.

Also any money that would come from the tax would go to and be imposed by the STATES not the federal government.

grydlok

join:2004-01-06
Richmond, VA

Re: Tax

You are not getting my satire.
Congress can say what they want, but they will never give up a chance for more money.

roadyoadyoadyo

Re: Tax

I'm sorry...where do you see "Congress WANTS a ban."

It would seem to me that if they want it, they'll have no trouble passing it...as it stands, they seem to have an opposed portion working against it.

Reading? Who? You? Nooooo
Ricky Smith
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join:2004-09-11
Winter Park, FL

mmmm

They complain when they have to charge a tax and give that to the government, but they dont complain when they hike the prices all the time.
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Ricky Smith

TScheisskopf
World News Trust

join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ

Re: mmmm

Funny how that works, ain't it?

If you excuse me, I am being overcome by the combined fumes of astroturf and conneries...

Oh, and love your Pro Mod.

jgkolt
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join:2004-02-21
Lakewood, OH
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taxed by the state

how does that work. does google have to pay different rates to send information to different states or just the home users internet connection.
voipdabbler

join:2006-04-27
Kalispell, MT

It will be the states at first

If the ban is allowed to expire, states will probably be the first to tax broadband access. However, if new state taxes don't drive people away from broadband by a significant percentage, don't be surprised to the the feds adding new fees, too. Governments at all levels get addicted to new revenue streams so once a tax is in place it's almost impossible to repeal it. But then, the American middle class, which I will admit has been steadily shrinking over the past few decades,is pretty much incapable of living on a budget in this age of plastic and instant gratification.

KA3SGM
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join:2006-01-17
West Chester, PA
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·Verizon FIOS

Re: taxed by the state

said by jgkolt See Profile :

how does that work. does google have to pay different rates to send information to different states or just the home users internet connection.
Does it really mater who gets taxed how much, and for what reason.

It still will find it's way into the total amount due on YOUR ISP bill every month.
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"Lithium is no longer available on credit"
LostInWoods

join:2004-04-14
·Windstream

Unless the ban is extended, your state could charge a sales or other tax on the internet service from your ISP. This would be another add-on to your phone, cable, or whatever bill. Google would have nothing to do with it, unless Google is your ISP (not yet, that I'm aware of).

KA3SGM
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join:2006-01-17
West Chester, PA
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·Verizon FIOS

Re: taxed by the state

Hey, if Congress is so hell bent on the idea of putting permanent bans on taxes, maybe they would be willing to repeal the 16th Amendment too.
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"Lithium is no longer available on credit"
tmc8080

join:2004-04-24
Floral Park, NY

permanent

permanent ban

tax war profiteers at a higher rate
madrhino

join:2004-07-03
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast

Re: permanent

said by tmc8080 See Profile :

tax war profiteers at a higher rate
Then there wouldn't be any profit in war.

old_dawg
"I Know Noting..."

join:2001-09-22
Westminster, MD

Same ol' same ol' song....

RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

A Simple Compromise

Why not report out BOTH bills (Extension and Permanent) and schedule the vote on the Permanent Version FIRST (if it passes, the Extension bill is killed due to being a moot issue while failure of the Permanent version brings the Extension version to a vote)?

Nightshade
Beware the Blue Rabbit
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join:2002-05-26
Salem, OR

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October 1st, @09:43PM

Re: A Simple Compromise

Because it is beyond the ability of the congress to comprehend that sort of common sense approach on any bills.
birdfeedr
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join:2001-08-11
Warwick, RI
·Verizon FIOS

I'd accept a temporary ban if...

part of the congressional bill passed requirements to take all the ISP's taxes and call them Taxes, then take all the rest of the services and call it Services. Make that requirement permanent, and call it Truth In Telecomm Billing.

I'm thinking wireless, telephone, voip, and internet, whether cable or copper (fiber).

Then it would be OK with me to have a discussion about renewing the moratorium in 2012.
footballdude

join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO

too busy

The Senate is much too busy debating whether they will pass an official condemnation of Rush Limbaugh for something he didn't actually say. They just don't have time for important stuff like taxes.
Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

Re: too busy

I'm sure he said it...

zachary1
you talkin' to me?

join:2004-03-07
right here
Limbaugh can go itch his cyst on his ass.
Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

Re: too busy

..and just how do you know about that?!?
footballdude

join:2002-08-13
Imperial, MO

Re: too busy

said by Ahrenl See Profile :

..and just how do you know about that?!?
Because I listen to the show and I heard what he said first hand, as opposed to reading what somebody else said about what he said. It ain't complicated.
--
What's certain about Darwinism is that it would take less time for (1) a single-celled organism to evolve into a human being through mutation and natural selection than for (2) Darwinists to admit they have no proof of (1) - Ann Coulter
Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA

Re: too busy

I meant the Cyst..

..and both responses were supposed to be rediculous Mr.Serious.

DoctorDoom
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join:2006-09-19
Becket, MA

More TAXES! Oh, YEAH!

An undeniable fact of life: governments never met a tax that they didn't like. The only thing that prevents them from taking your entire income is that pols like their cushy, non-labor-intensive jobs even more, and the voters, as stupid as they are, CAN be pushed too far.

When your bills for using the Net go up—again—remember that the voters elected those economic-lifeblood-sucking political parasites.
BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

Re: More TAXES! Oh, YEAH!

said by DoctorDoom See Profile :

An undeniable fact of life: governments never met a tax that they didn't like. The only thing that prevents them from taking your entire income is that pols like their cushy, non-labor-intensive jobs even more, and the voters, as stupid as they are, CAN be pushed too far.

When your bills for using the Net go up—again—remember that the voters elected those economic-lifeblood-sucking political parasites.
Obviously reading wasn't your best subject. Show me ANYWHERE where Congress was poised to riase internet taxes?

justaguy

@lmco.com

Re: More TAXES! Oh, YEAH!

Obviously reading wasn't your best subject. Show me ANYWHERE where Congress was poised to riase internet taxes?

If the ban expires, it isn't a matter of Congress being poised to impose taxes, they would be swooping in like vultures.

vger83

@suddenlink.net

divided feelings

On one hand, I believe states should have as much freedom from the feds as possible. On the other hand, some states (North Carolina, for example) will not hesitate to impose new taxes if given a chance to do so.
ncbill
Premium
join:2007-01-23
Winston Salem, NC

Re: divided feelings

Yep, 7% tax on your telephone bill here in NC

They'll do it the same to your broadband in a heartbeat if the ban is not renewed.

dancy70
Premium
join:2005-01-29
Hudson, FL
·Verizon Online DSL

Internet taxes

Does not the issue go beyond just taxing access. The problem is also the states wanting to be able to collect sales tax on anything sold to you on the internet whether or not the merchant from whom you bought the item has a brick and mortar presence in your state. Beyond the ISP, this puts a tremendous burden and a whole lot of paperwork on any merchant that sells anything on the internet - he has to know and enforce the tax codes in all 50 states and God knows how many local taxing authorities. A bit of the same thing is happening, particularly in CA, where the state is trying to collect sales taxes from businesses who ship anything into the state no matter what channel it is bought through and no matter where the company has its business. The whole thing is unworkable/unmanageable.
bluedragon

join:2000-05-09
Hutchinson, KS
·AT&T Southwest

Broadband Tax Ban

What this comes down to is that government on all levels is not willing to control spending. There are many voters out there that have the gimme attitude when they vote. The number one job (in his or her own mind) of a politician is to get reelected. The more money or services they can get to their district the more likely they are to get reelected. New taxes make more money available to do just that.
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