  grydlok
join:2004-01-06 Richmond, VA | Tax Congress "This is easy money"
ISP "The subs going to blame us for a rate hike"
Congress "To Hell with the subs we need more money to do dumb sh@# with" | |
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 |  BF69
join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
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| Re: Tax said by grydlok :Congress "This is easy money" ISP "The subs going to blame us for a rate hike" Congress "To Hell with the subs we need more money to do dumb sh@# with" Apparently reading comprehension wasn't your strongest subject. Congress WANTS a ban. The issue is whether it should be permanent or temporary.
Also any money that would come from the tax would go to and be imposed by the STATES not the federal government. | |
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join:2004-01-06 Richmond, VA | Re: Tax You are not getting my satire. Congress can say what they want, but they will never give up a chance for more money. | |
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| Re: Tax I'm sorry...where do you see "Congress WANTS a ban."
It would seem to me that if they want it, they'll have no trouble passing it...as it stands, they seem to have an opposed portion working against it.
Reading? Who? You? Nooooo | |
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 Ricky Smith Premium join:2004-09-11 Winter Park, FL | mmmm They complain when they have to charge a tax and give that to the government, but they dont complain when they hike the prices all the time. -- Ricky Smith
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 |   TScheisskopf World News Trust
join:2005-02-13 Belvidere, NJ | Re: mmmm Funny how that works, ain't it?
If you excuse me, I am being overcome by the combined fumes of astroturf and conneries...
Oh, and love your Pro Mod.  | |
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  jgkolt Premium join:2004-02-21 Lakewood, OH clubs: | taxed by the state how does that work. does google have to pay different rates to send information to different states or just the home users internet connection. | |
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join:2006-04-27 Kalispell, MT
| It will be the states at first If the ban is allowed to expire, states will probably be the first to tax broadband access. However, if new state taxes don't drive people away from broadband by a significant percentage, don't be surprised to the the feds adding new fees, too. Governments at all levels get addicted to new revenue streams so once a tax is in place it's almost impossible to repeal it. But then, the American middle class, which I will admit has been steadily shrinking over the past few decades,is pretty much incapable of living on a budget in this age of plastic and instant gratification. | |
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·Verizon FIOS
| Re: taxed by the state said by jgkolt :how does that work. does google have to pay different rates to send information to different states or just the home users internet connection. Does it really mater who gets taxed how much, and for what reason.
It still will find it's way into the total amount due on YOUR ISP bill every month. -- "Lithium is no longer available on credit" | |
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join:2004-04-14
·Windstream
| Unless the ban is extended, your state could charge a sales or other tax on the internet service from your ISP. This would be another add-on to your phone, cable, or whatever bill. Google would have nothing to do with it, unless Google is your ISP (not yet, that I'm aware of). | |
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join:2004-04-24 Floral Park, NY | permanent permanent ban
tax war profiteers at a higher rate | |
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join:2004-07-03
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast
| Re: permanent said by tmc8080 :tax war profiteers at a higher rate Then there wouldn't be any profit in war. | |
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 |   old_dawg "I Know Noting..."
join:2001-09-22 Westminster, MD
| Same ol' same ol' song.... | |
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join:1999-12-08 Suffern, NY
| A Simple Compromise Why not report out BOTH bills (Extension and Permanent) and schedule the vote on the Permanent Version FIRST (if it passes, the Extension bill is killed due to being a moot issue while failure of the Permanent version brings the Extension version to a vote)? | |
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| Re: A Simple Compromise Because it is beyond the ability of the congress to comprehend that sort of common sense approach on any bills. | |
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·Verizon FIOS
| I'd accept a temporary ban if... part of the congressional bill passed requirements to take all the ISP's taxes and call them Taxes, then take all the rest of the services and call it Services. Make that requirement permanent, and call it Truth In Telecomm Billing.
I'm thinking wireless, telephone, voip, and internet, whether cable or copper (fiber).
Then it would be OK with me to have a discussion about renewing the moratorium in 2012. | |
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join:2002-08-13 Imperial, MO | too busy The Senate is much too busy debating whether they will pass an official condemnation of Rush Limbaugh for something he didn't actually say. They just don't have time for important stuff like taxes. | |
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join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA | Re: too busy I'm sure he said it... | |
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join:2004-03-07 right here | Limbaugh can go itch his cyst on his ass. | |
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join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA | Re: too busy ..and just how do you know about that?!? | |
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join:2002-08-13 Imperial, MO
| Re: too busy said by Ahrenl :..and just how do you know about that?!? Because I listen to the show and I heard what he said first hand, as opposed to reading what somebody else said about what he said. It ain't complicated. -- What's certain about Darwinism is that it would take less time for (1) a single-celled organism to evolve into a human being through mutation and natural selection than for (2) Darwinists to admit they have no proof of (1) - Ann Coulter | |
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join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA | Re: too busy I meant the Cyst..
..and both responses were supposed to be rediculous Mr.Serious. | |
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  DoctorDoom Troll hunter Premium join:2006-09-19 Becket, MA
| More TAXES! Oh, YEAH! An undeniable fact of life: governments never met a tax that they didn't like. The only thing that prevents them from taking your entire income is that pols like their cushy, non-labor-intensive jobs even more, and the voters, as stupid as they are, CAN be pushed too far.
When your bills for using the Net go upagainremember that the voters elected those economic-lifeblood-sucking political parasites. | |
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join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN
| Re: More TAXES! Oh, YEAH! said by DoctorDoom :An undeniable fact of life: governments never met a tax that they didn't like. The only thing that prevents them from taking your entire income is that pols like their cushy, non-labor-intensive jobs even more, and the voters, as stupid as they are, CAN be pushed too far. When your bills for using the Net go upagainremember that the voters elected those economic-lifeblood-sucking political parasites. Obviously reading wasn't your best subject. Show me ANYWHERE where Congress was poised to riase internet taxes? | |
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@lmco.com | Re: More TAXES! Oh, YEAH! Obviously reading wasn't your best subject. Show me ANYWHERE where Congress was poised to riase internet taxes?
If the ban expires, it isn't a matter of Congress being poised to impose taxes, they would be swooping in like vultures. | |
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@suddenlink.net | divided feelings On one hand, I believe states should have as much freedom from the feds as possible. On the other hand, some states (North Carolina, for example) will not hesitate to impose new taxes if given a chance to do so. | |
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 |  ncbill Premium join:2007-01-23 Winston Salem, NC | Re: divided feelings Yep, 7% tax on your telephone bill here in NC
They'll do it the same to your broadband in a heartbeat if the ban is not renewed. | |
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  dancy70 Premium join:2005-01-29 Hudson, FL
·Verizon Online DSL
| Internet taxes Does not the issue go beyond just taxing access. The problem is also the states wanting to be able to collect sales tax on anything sold to you on the internet whether or not the merchant from whom you bought the item has a brick and mortar presence in your state. Beyond the ISP, this puts a tremendous burden and a whole lot of paperwork on any merchant that sells anything on the internet - he has to know and enforce the tax codes in all 50 states and God knows how many local taxing authorities. A bit of the same thing is happening, particularly in CA, where the state is trying to collect sales taxes from businesses who ship anything into the state no matter what channel it is bought through and no matter where the company has its business. The whole thing is unworkable/unmanageable. | |
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join:2000-05-09 Hutchinson, KS
·AT&T Southwest
| Broadband Tax Ban What this comes down to is that government on all levels is not willing to control spending. There are many voters out there that have the gimme attitude when they vote. The number one job (in his or her own mind) of a politician is to get reelected. The more money or services they can get to their district the more likely they are to get reelected. New taxes make more money available to do just that. | |
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