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Seven States Join DOJ in AT&T T-Mobile Suit
AT&T's Deal Approval Path Gets a Little Steeper
by Karl Bode Friday 16-Sep-2011 tags: legal · business · consumers · AT&T
Seven states have joined the Justice Department's lawsuit seeking to block AT&T's planned $39 billion acquisition of T-Mobile. The attorney generals of California, Illinois, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Washington, New York, and Ohio were added as co-plaintiffs in the U.S. District Court of the District of Columbia.

The DOJ is set to meet with AT&T next Wednesday, during which AT&T will propose a number of what will likely be rather light concessions -- such as divesting a chunk of markets they had no interest in to begin with -- or agreeing to light neutrality rules they already planned to adhere to. The addition of the AGs could indicate state interest in ensuring the DOJ doesn't wimp out on a possible settlement.

"This proposed merger would stifle competition in markets that are crucial to New York's consumers and businesses, while reducing access to low-cost options and the newest broadband-based technologies," said New York Attorney General Schneiderman in a statement.

"We must do everything we can to encourage innovation and job creation. In vulnerable upstate communities, where concentration in some markets is already very high, and in New York City’s information-intensive economy, the impact this merger would have on wireless competition, economic growth, and technological innovation would be enormous."

Update: AT&T reached out to us with this statement on today's news:

It is not unusual for state attorneys general to participate in DOJ merger review proceedings or court filings. At the same time, we appreciate that 11 state attorneys general and hundreds of other local, state and federal officials are publicly supportive of our merger. We will continue to seek an expedited hearing on the DOJ’s complaint. On a parallel path, we have been and remain interested in a solution that addresses the DOJ’s issues with the T-Mobile merger.

We remain confident that we’ll reach a successful conclusion and look forward to delivering the merger benefits of additional wireless network capacity to improve customer service, expanded LTE deployment to 55 million more Americans, $8 billion in additional investment, and a commitment to bring 5,000 wireless call center jobs back to the United States.


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cahiatt
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Yay.....

I noticed Texas and Georgia aren't in the mix . Georgia being the old Bellsouth/Cingular hometown. Maybe they were already paid off?
thedragonmas

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Re: Yay.....

said by cahiatt:

I noticed Texas and Georgia aren't in the mix . Georgia being the old Bellsouth/Cingular hometown. Maybe they were already paid off?

Georgia is one of those "corporations can do no wrong" states.

fuziwuzi
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Re: Yay.....

said by thedragonmas:

said by cahiatt:

I noticed Texas and Georgia aren't in the mix . Georgia being the old Bellsouth/Cingular hometown. Maybe they were already paid off?

Georgia is one of those "corporations can do no wrong" states.

The prerequisite to be an elected official in Georgia is to have an IQ less than your age and a deep appreciation for campaign contributions.
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Re: Yay.....

said by fuziwuzi:

The prerequisite to be an elected official in Georgia is to have an IQ less than your age..

Wouldn't it just be easier to say "Georgia resident"?

fuziwuzi
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Re: Yay.....

said by cdru:

said by fuziwuzi:

The prerequisite to be an elected official in Georgia is to have an IQ less than your age..

Wouldn't it just be easier to say "Georgia resident"?

Unfortunately, there are some of us in the minority here who do not fit that criteria.
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King P
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Good!

The more, the merrier I say! Let's get this merger killed NOW!
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monchis
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Re: Good!

Awesome I am glad california is in there!!!
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hottboiinnc
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Re: Good!

sad part is those states have really no say so in this. I'm surprised after all of what Cali does to businesses that any still choose to do business there.
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Re: Good!

said by hottboiinnc:

sad part is those states have really no say so in this. I'm surprised after all of what Cali does to businesses that any still choose to do business there.

Because businesses will never turn down money, no matter how much they whine and moan about regulation.
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Hurray illinoia is there

Glad that this time chicago political machine is on peoples side. Lol

Not like that iowa that approved this deal. Wish i never had to change my dl and plate registration over there. Ia plates are awfully boring. Background of farm and des moines skyline.

FBGuy
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Re: Hurray illinoia is there

illinois plates are just as bad.

Rambo76098

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Re: Hurray illinoia is there

NY's plates are the worst, plain blue/gold, and the gold looks like Ohio's drunk driver plates.

Ohio's farm plate is something else too. Makes us all look like a bunch of hicks lol.
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I definitely preferred those older blue, with statue of liberty or NYC /niagara falls skyline. But I was not aware that drunk driver plates in Ohio are yellow. lol

I think Kentucky has the worst plate design of all states. Smiling sun made by 1st grader on plate? C'mon. Whoever came with this idea should be shot.

»www.city-data.com/forum/attachme···oday.jpg

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Re: Hurray illinoia is there

You can still use the old White and blue plates in NY State. I did not opt to have the new ugly Blue/Yellow on my car.

Also if you wanted to keep the same numer as the old plates they soak you as a vanity plate, and you pay a much higher fee.

Leave it to DMV in New York State to screw us even more.
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said by chgo_man99:

I think Kentucky has the worst plate design of all states. Smiling sun made by 1st grader on plate? C'mon. Whoever came with this idea should be shot.

Yeah, Ohio has drunk driver plates that are goldish-yellow with dark red letters. The NY plates are easy to confuse with them from a distance, it looks like drunk plates with a big frame around it. I didn't even have to search for a pic of NY plates, this pic came up when I searched Google for "Ohio Drunk Plates". LOL






Forgot about those KY plates... they are awful, at least they got rid of them. New "unbridled spirit" plates are boring, but at least not ugly.
chgo_man99

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huh? you think lincoln in background is boring? I don't think so. Besides you can get customized plate in IL if you are willing to shell out more cash. You can get Bears edition. GO BEARS!

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Hey now... I live here
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broken promises

too many people remember the broken promises of 2006 meger of Bell South..

the line has finally been drawn in the sand- the merger is NOT in the interests of 7 of the most populous states in the country... ** we all know why Texas & Florida did not sign on...

need futher proof the deal is dying or dead?

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYxvVe9y···=related


»blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/08/31/a···ly-dead/

Now AT&T can go back to their 85-100% promises made of bringing Uverse (however non-futureproofed vdsl is) to Bell South and not capping deployment at 40-50% total footprint. Comcast awaits a time when they won't look like a monopoly having Docsis 3.0 compared with lucky if you can get it competitor dsl....

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Re: broken promises

said by tmc8080:

... ** we all know why Texas & Florida did not sign on...

I'm willing to bet Texas didn't sign because AT&T corporate is based in Dallas (and was previously in San Antonio).
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ctceo
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Class Action?

Can't they just request dismissal under their supreme court case AT&T Mobility v. Concepcion, No. 09-893 ?
Brittany

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Where does T-Mobile go from here?

I'll be happy to see this merger killed, but what about T-Mobile. Both service and support are showing some weakness and their loosing subscribers.
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Re: Where does T-Mobile go from here?

service on TMO hasn't been hurt at all. And just because you lose customers doesn't mean its because of the merger. All companies lose customers and TMO isn't really worried about them. They'll make up for it with their $50 unlimited everything and no contract options and their new FlexPay - month to month store that just launched on their website. One of the few national carriers that are selling smart phones for under $199 with national access that isn't subject to roaming issues- aka Virgin Mobile.
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said by Brittany:

I'll be happy to see this merger killed, but what about T-Mobile. Both service and support are showing some weakness and their loosing subscribers.

They'll use the $3 billion in cash and $3 billion in spectrum to expand their network.

ctceo
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That was the point. Win-Win.

Merger Approved: Win
Merger Denied: Win (after subscribers are absorbed)

The latter is the least desireable outcome, but a win nonetheless.
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State AG's

need to go back and do some good for their states instead of spending money on the ATT Mobility / TMO USA Merger. They have really no power over this and just out to try to make a name for the AG. Two of the states are already broke worrying about their own citizens let alone trying to dictate how a business should merge. Maybe its time to elect some new AG's who will work instead of spending $$$ on this.

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They are working. They aren't doing what you want them to do apparently, and you are welcome to vote based on that. I am sure others will vote based on the work they are doing, which is certainly worthwhile.

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said by HappyAnarchy :

They are working. They aren't doing what you want them to do apparently, and you are welcome to vote based on that. I am sure others will vote based on the work they are doing, which is certainly worthwhile.

Exactly, an AG is supposed to do what is necessary to protect the citizens of the state of which he/she is AG. If that means filing papers to try and stop a telecom mega-merger, then so be it. That is what an AG does.
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Re: State AG's

not when the AG has no power to try and stop. The only thing they're doing is causing more debt. So yah you can be glad that your AG is spending money the state doesn't have. If this was a state matter the states would have already had their input like they did with VZ and Frontier and VZ and Fairpoint. Cellular and MSO mergers do NOT go in front of the states there for they need to focus on things that affect them directly. They have options for cellular providers. And we can name and and every provider off they have as an option. And next when we see Sprint buying another prepaid company up we should maybe have the states file to block that as well.

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Re: State AG's

Alright Mr. Negative Nancy/Industry Shill. We get that you think it's a waste of time and money. Obviously the AGs and DOJ don't think so. I support our AG Dewine in throwing Ohio on the case for states that have problems with the merger.

Yes, other mergers have happened. But none of this scale, and with this many lies/negative consequences. AT&T was broken up before for a reason. Honestly I can't believe SBC was allowed to acquire and combine so many of the split-up companies in the past few years.

And this does impact states, this will result in them doling out more unemployment payments once AT&T starts laying off, plus less network investment, all of which means less tax revenue for the states as well. It's a lose/lose financially (excluding AT&T investors).
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said by hottboiinnc:

not when the AG has no power to try and stop. The only thing they're doing is causing more debt. So yah you can be glad that your AG is spending money the state doesn't have. If this was a state matter the states would have already had their input like they did with VZ and Frontier and VZ and Fairpoint. Cellular and MSO mergers do NOT go in front of the states there for they need to focus on things that affect them directly. They have options for cellular providers. And we can name and and every provider off they have as an option. And next when we see Sprint buying another prepaid company up we should maybe have the states file to block that as well.

AG's can influence the outcome of a DOJ court case, and can slow down the process. Speed is extremely important to AT&T.

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said by hottboiinnc:

need to go back and do some good for their states instead of spending money on the ATT Mobility / TMO USA Merger. They have really no power over this and just out to try to make a name for the AG. Two of the states are already broke worrying about their own citizens let alone trying to dictate how a business should merge. Maybe its time to elect some new AG's who will work instead of spending $$$ on this.

Always with the negative waves Moriarty.... It's the weekend; why not go outside and get some fresh air?

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hottboiinnc
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Re: State AG's

its not being negative. It's the fact the states are spending money they don't have to worry about something they have NO CONTROL over. The law does NOT give them power over cell phone providers. If they did; they would give their input.

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Nice kellys hero's reference.

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Attorneys general not attorney generals

ATT had it right.
omfgoats

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I am SHOCKED!

Pretty much everybody thinks that DeWine is in the pocket of Big business. The fact that he authorized this suit must mean they know they can't hide this turd sandwich.
BiggA

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Either

Let AT&T and T-Mobile merge, or T-Mobile will go under, and AT&T can buy their spectrum assets at an auction. Why is the latter better?
old_wiz_60

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Looks like..

the deathstar will have to send out a big batch of unmarked fat envelopes to the right people in those 7 states.
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My AFee&Fee Story

I'd like to share my story with AFee&Fee with anyone who is interested.

About 2005 I decided to try out AT&T with the newly released iPhone since I was having some issues with TMO back then with bad signal in a heavily populated area. So I ventured down to the ATT store and shelled out several hundred dollars and signed up. I proceeded to go around everywhere that I normally go and found that the signal quality was even worse. I also found several areas where the signal strength was quite good but the call quality was horrible.

So after the fourth day of my "30 day guarantee of satisfaction or my money back" I returned to the store; returned the phone; and cancelled my service...

OR SO I THOUGHT...

After another 3 months rolled by I received a collection notice for a bill. Turns out it was ATT trying to claim that I had not paid them at all for several months of service. I notified them that they were mistaken. Well that was the last that I heard from ATT...

BUT THAT ISN'T THE END OF THE STORY...

Many months rolled by and then I got a collection agency notice for it and also a credit report notice claiming that "someone" had placed a bad credit rating on my report. Well I knew something was amiss so I decided to pull my reports... and guess who placed it there... AT&T. Well I disputed the merit of their claim and heard nothing back from any party. Another year or so rolled by and then I got yet another "bad credit report" from the big 3 credit bureaus... once again it was AT&T.

AFee&Fee has continually harassed me even up until last week continually barraging my credit report with negative reviews. I of course ignore any further notices because they are very much without merit. I am also told that the statute of limitations has been exceeded by these false claims from AT&T.

I am not sure if I "signed up" before the "arbitration" (aka try to screw over the Consumer clause) but regardless my claim will be in a Federal Court where "arbitration" would be violating at the very least the Sixth and Seventh amendments, so I'm told by Counsel, when I choose to proceed.

The Moral of this Story is...."If we (AT&T) can't have you as a Customer, we at AT&T will do our very best to destroy your Credit Rating at the Credit Bureaus".

This to me seems extremely unethical and fits into the definition of antitrust according to a few web sites and legal dictionaries as:
opposing or intended to restrain trusts, monopolies, or other large combinations of business and capital, especially with a view to maintaining and promoting competition
I am extremely unhappy with AFee&Fee and I dare not type any "colorful metaphors" about ATT that I have been thinking about along with this proposed acquisition.

I am extremely ecstatic that I did not cancel my TMO service and I have thus since learned that my issues with TMO weren't as bad as I thought.

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