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| This Completely Misses The Point! Why aren't these sex offenders still in jail where they belong?
These databases, while useful, do not solve the root of the problem. That is, sex offenders would not be living in your neighborhood if they were in prison for much longer sentences than they are now! -- Hey Fast Eddie... you're next! | |
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1 edit | Re: This Completely Misses The Point! Because they served their sentence and apparently the California Attorney General wishes to insure that they are lynched as well.
I am no fan of sex offenders, but in my state sex between a seventeen year old and a fifteen year old (or even arguably to fifteen year olds) will get you on the list. In Michigan, public indecency is a listed offense and our prosecutors have used the law to prosecute drunks taking a wiz at in an alley. | |
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1 edit | Not all sex offenders are really sex offenders like the goverment makes them out to be. When I was 17, I had a girlfriend who was 15. We slept together, and I was tried for Statutory Rape when her parents found out, even though we were both minors. Does that make me a sexual offender? No, but if I would of been convicted, then I would have to register with this offenders list where ever I move.
Now that I look back at it, I am glad that everything happened the way it did. After the DA couldn't put a good enough case together besides her diary, without her testimony, they dropped the case. Her father then took out a repeat violence restraining (I had never harmed a hair on her, but when you pay someone enough money in the goverment you can make anything possible on the restraining order) order on me keeping me from her. She moved down with her biological mother almost three hours away. It didn't stop me from seeing her.
After awhile we broke it off because of the distance, and she told me that when she is 18 she would enull the order. Well longer story short, she did it and we are together today, and I get to sit across from her father at the dinner table on Holidays. He still hates my guts but he "Accepts" me I guess. I still hate his guts for what he put me through, but I try to pretend I like him. | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! said by technick :Not all sex offenders are really sex offenders like the goverment makes them out to be. Ain't that the truth. I know of one case several years ago when a co-worker's relative was arrested when a camera store owner called the police because the film they developed for her contained a few innocent pictures of her kids naked in the tub. The owner may have been legally required to make the call but nevertheless she was convicted of possessing 'child porn' and had her life ruined. Insane. -- "tick...tick...tick..." »www.jtf.org/ | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! said by Shamayim : said by technick :Not all sex offenders are really sex offenders like the goverment makes them out to be. Ain't that the truth. I know of one case several years ago when a co-worker's relative was arrested when a camera store owner called the police because the film they developed for her contained a few innocent pictures of her kids naked in the tub. The owner may have been legally required to make the call but nevertheless she was convicted of possessing 'child porn' and had her life ruined. Insane. Gotta love America, one of the places where nudity alone can be considered porn. | |
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| said by technick :Not all sex offenders are really sex offenders like the goverment makes them out to be. When I was 17, I had a girlfriend who was 15. We slept together, and I was tried for Statutory Rape when her parents found out, even though we were both minors. Does that make me a sexual offender? No, but if I would of been convicted, then I would have to register with this offenders list where ever I move. Now that I look back at it, I am glad that everything happened the way it did. After the DA couldn't put a good enough case together besides her diary, without her testimony, they dropped the case. Her father then took out a repeat violence restraining (I had never harmed a hair on her, but when you pay someone enough money in the goverment you can make anything possible on the restraining order) order on me keeping me from her. She moved down with her biological mother almost three hours away. It didn't stop me from seeing her. After awhile we broke it off because of the distance, and she told me that when she is 18 she would enull the order. Well longer story short, she did it and we are together today, and I get to sit across from her father at the dinner table on Holidays. He still hates my guts but he "Accepts" me I guess. I still hate his guts for what he put me through, but I try to pretend I like him. You my friend.... are a better man than I would be.
After that, I would just tell the wife/significant other "Ya know what why do I want to see him again??"
I think I could actually tolerate that ending.... although I would think less of him though... which is more than well in your right. I can only imagine the immense a$$ he probably feels sometimes, especially if you are good to the daughter.
I was in about the same type of situation, no legal implications though with my very first girlfriend. It was a new thing for me I was 16 (barely by like 3 months) and she just turned 15. We had good times but her dad would never hear of it. I broke it off due to the pressure we were getting from her parents.
Now a days, he is my dad's boss, and my dad is 2nd in charge below him. He has watched my successes, and watched me get a lot thinner. She ended up approx. 4 years later getting together with a guy he really wished she would not have. Had 2 kids with him, and left her alone, and single with 2 kids (never married). Her dad, for the most part we get along very well. I asked my dad one day "Do you think it ever crossed his mind as to what would have happend to his daughter had he just let it go??" My dad states "I am sure it crosses his mind many times, I am sure he regrets it too." From what I understood she was going for a computer science degree but fell short when the kids were born. Makes me wonder if I ever could read minds for 1 day I would take a day off and see what he thought... Call it my curiosity.... -- If you have a topic I have not responded to in the direct forum please be sure to reply to me... I get an e-mail when you do that so I know you updated your thread... Thanks David.. | |
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| said by technick :Not all sex offenders are really sex offenders like the goverment makes them out to be. When I was 17, I had a girlfriend who was 15. We slept together, and I was tried for Statutory Rape when her parents found out, even though we were both minors. Does that make me a sexual offender? No, but if I would of been convicted, then I would have to register with this offenders list where ever I move. Now that I look back at it, I am glad that everything happened the way it did. After the DA couldn't put a good enough case together besides her diary, without her testimony, they dropped the case. Her father then took out a repeat violence restraining (I had never harmed a hair on her, but when you pay someone enough money in the goverment you can make anything possible on the restraining order) order on me keeping me from her. She moved down with her biological mother almost three hours away. It didn't stop me from seeing her. After awhile we broke it off because of the distance, and she told me that when she is 18 she would enull the order. Well longer story short, she did it and we are together today, and I get to sit across from her father at the dinner table on Holidays. He still hates my guts but he "Accepts" me I guess. I still hate his guts for what he put me through, but I try to pretend I like him. Wow!
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|  |   bokamba Chengdu Rocks Premium join:2002-04-05 Falls Church, VA | I think you're missing the point. You shouldn't keep sex offenders in jail forever, so the question is what to do about them when they're released. | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! There is no research that shows that this law actually deters or protects. It was the brain child of the parents of Megan Kanka (sp) not criminal justice professionals. Conversely, there have been houses burned down because a person appears on the registry, people run out of town, and homes broken into and people assaulted. Not all the individuals wounded by the vigilantes of Megan's law were convicted sex offenders.
It is one thing to give the information to police. It is another to give it to every hot head in every neighborhood. Police are notoriously bad about prosecuting these thugs because they perceive former sex offenders as "scum" and sympathize with the thugs. To steal a quote from George Bush, "they have as much use for them as flees."
I am former Chair of the Prison and Corrections Section of the State Bar in my state. I've talked to a number of corrections professionals who think the law is a horrible idea, but people know what they know and no politician wants to be perceived as "pro sex offender" so these laws pass state legislatures with little debate.
Stopping ex-cons from reintergrating into society does not reduce crime. It encourages people to either live in a criminal subsculture, or go out and buy a new driver's license on the streets to hide so deep that the police lose track of them as well.
What we do about them is an important issue. Background checks for certain jobs/positions (e.g. day care, boy scouts, etc) are good. Police knowledge of who is in town can be helpful. What the California Attorney General has done is not a good idea. IMHO, it is disguised punishment (they cannot admit the real purpose because it would probably violate the Eighth Amendment's prohibition on ex post facto laws and could raise some cruel and/or unusual punishment laws).s
Laws passed by the Legislature to encourage thugs to roam the streets and dispense "justice" are a really bad idea and I fear that is precisely the real reason for this loaw. | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! Do you have kids?
If a sex offender moves into my neighborhood, I have a right to this information to better protect my family. I should also have access to details of the case, so I know if the sex offender was 17 and did the wild thing with a 15yr old girlfriend, or if it was a 50yr old guy molesting little kids. | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! Most states don't give you the information you seek and with all due respect, this individual also has the right not to have his house torched or to be beaten in the streets.
The other problem frankly is that there are a huge number of false accusations out there, (remember McMartin preschool). In a different generation, I'd have a prosecutor who had a case crumble give a deal say to fourth degree criminal sexual conduct with an agreement that my client receive diversion and no permenant record. Now, with Megan's laws we are seeing those things posted on the net.
It is a popular belief that innocents will not plead guilty. When a person is offered a sweat heart deal if you plea and are gambling on a potential life sentence if the jury believes a kid in the box, many people will take the deal.
How do we put all this on the web if you think that society has the right to do this renige on the deal in the first place (remember the promise for no record. It is functionally meaningless once you are posted on perverts.com). | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! Simple. Err on the side of giving people the information they need to better protect their family. And you come down HARD on people using the list to get "revenge" or whatever against those people.
False accusations are all over, but not too many get convicted.
I should know if a convicted child molester moves in next door, and be armed with the information I need when his son wants to invite my son over for a sleep-over. It is as simple as that. | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! For the love of this country, stop using the phrase "better protect my family". There are plenty of ways to do that without knowing where the sex offender lives. And if you think that this is crucial, explain to me why you aren't interested in knowing where convicted burglars live. With maps and photographs. Or anyone who has commited a number of other crimes that may have a negative impact on your family.
Somehow we assume that a person who vandalizes a bench in the park, or breaks your car window, or steals your TV is less dangerous than a 17 year old with "feelings" for a 15 year old. And at the same time we assume that all other "petty criminals" will recover and change their lives, but a person taking pictures of her kids is a criminal whose face may as well hang in the post office next to the infamous "top-10" list. Does anyone see a problem with this, or am I an immoral individual with no values or beliefs? | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! I think the possibility of living next to a child molester is a little more serious than a vandal or a burgler. Ask anyone with a child, and I can guarentee you that they would rather have their TV stolen than have someone molest their child. That argument doesn't hold any water.
If I don't know the neighbor who moved in recently is a sex offender, I might let him watch my kid, or let my kid go over and play with his kids (if the state gave his back to him), etc. That is a real way to protect your family other than locking them in the house.
As for the 17yr old with a 15yr old... that is why I said earlier that they should list the offense... so that I know if it is just something minor like that or if it was a 50 yr old guy molesting a 5 yr old. | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! The argument holds water because at this point in time we have drawn a relatively arbitrary line of using somewhat extreme measures to protect children from one type of crime but not others (a TV was an example. If your children are sleeping at home or are watching it, do you think they don't have a chance of becoming victims in this situation?). You try to remove ambiguity by offering to list the offense. Good on the surface, terrible when we talk about privacy, especially when we come to a situation where any offense is "statutory" - offense against the law, not directly against an individual. Why would anyone consider stripping people of their privacy and dignity for a minor offense that would be irrelevant in a State with a different statute on the books is beyond me.
It is the government's responsiblity to protect the privacy of its citizens by filtering out certain offenses. You cannot err on the side of "more information" because we believe in privacy (therefore the answer "Simple" doesn't really cut it). This goes back to the whole "liberty/ temporary security" discussion that is very hard to argue with. States that filter by level of offense have it mostly right.
I say mostly because I think that as a society we have a bigger problem that cannot really be solved this way - this is reactive, and not preventive. Ultimately every criminal would have to be listed, because the argument of "protecting the family" can be taken to any extreme and is also hard to argue against. But no knee-jerk reaction has ever solved anyone's problems, only has put off the resposibility of dealing with it. | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! Someone simply convicted of burglery isn't a child molester until they molest a child. If they are inside watching TV, then odds are the parents are in the house as well. ...and I wouldn't stand around waiting for the Police if something was happening to my child. Buglery and child molestation are not even close to being in the same category. Short of murder etc, molestation is the worst thing that could happen to a child.
The list has its faults, like the statutory situation, but fix that... don't remove the lists.
As far as I am concerned, the minute someone molests a child, his right to privacy on that matter goes out the window. I'd rather be armed with the information I need than be in the dark because you don't want to offend a child molester.
When you have kids, here is what I want you to do. Check out the list for your state, and move to the area with the highest concentration of sex offenders. Move in right next door to one of them. What? Doesn't sound like a good idea to you? Wouldn't put your family at risk like that? My point exactly. | |
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| What goes along with that though? How much detail do you display? The woman busted for taking pictures of her child in the tub (which is a perfectly natural thing for most parents) is listed as someone in posession of child porn, with no detail as to why? Or to the opposite end, where the serious offender moves in down the block, the neighborhood hotheads get a dose of extreme detail, and decide to form a lynch mob? | |
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| Re: This Completely Misses The Point! said by JimmySask :What goes along with that though? How much detail do you display? The woman busted for taking pictures of her child in the tub (which is a perfectly natural thing for most parents) is listed as someone in posession of child porn, with no detail as to why? Or to the opposite end, where the serious offender moves in down the block, the neighborhood hotheads get a dose of extreme detail, and decide to form a lynch mob? Hear hear Jimmy a man or woman should be able to molest children without worrying about the community clamping down on his or her butt.
Sheesh what is this world coming to when you can't even grope kids without some parent taking offense.
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| "False accusations are all over, but not too many get convicted."
The research from Innocence Projects on the subject demonstrate that there are more innocents being convicted than was ever imagined. The Department of Justice did a publication called convicted by juries exonerated by science that is really scary in this regard.
Here is a link to the publication:
www.ncjrs.org/pdffiles/dnaevid.pdf
I understand what you are saying, but I think that we have different values (safety v. civil liberties). Peace!
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|  |  |  |  |  |   technick Premium join:2000-12-16 Loganville, GA | ... This will work if all of the offenders register every place they move and follow probation. I don't know why they need the personal information of the offender other then his name and his picture. | |
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| About time... Arizona has had theirs up for a while....
www.azsexoffender.com
On the AZ site you won't get posted for "statuatory rape"
Only more serious crimes and I am glad that they do this, Especially with children...
Quote from the AZ site:
"WARNING This site does not contain information on all convicted sex offenders! Information is only provided for sex offenders with risk assessment scores of Level 2 (Intermediate) or Level 3 (High)!" | |
|  |   state stress magnet Premium,Mod join:2002-02-08 Hampton, VA clubs:  | Re: About time... Same with Virginia, the State Police have been making that information available for years:
»sex-offender.vsp.state.va.us/ | |
|  |  |  cevans59 Premium join:2003-08-14 Smithton, IL | Re: About time... Illinois has had theirs up for awhile now too. Of course what it really list is the last known address.
Wasn't there a story not long ago about a man looking up offenders in his state and then he was going to "take care" of them? | |
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| Arizona has had theirs up for a while....
www.azsexoffender.com
Be careful, don't go to »www.azsexoffenders.com
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1 edit | Texas has one as well »https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/soSear···arch.cfm
I would rahter know about a sex offender living in my neighborhood than not. I would rather take precautions then end up in a situation where my child was exposed to this type of behavior or worse, becomes a new victim...
I know....they did their time...blah, blah, blah.... I don't give a damn...
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They also have a mapping utility to see how close they live to you: »216.140.183.80/SOMAP/somapSearch.cfm -- America.....F*ck Yeah... | |
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| I looked up my city... I found 8 people, luckily nobody that lived relatively close to me.
I like the idea of this kind of database. It lets the people who live around these creeps know what's going on. -- Secure-Wifi.Net is now open for buisness in the LA/OC area.
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| Good move I also think this is a great move for California. If you have kids, this will give you a lot of peace of mind knowing if there is anyone in the neighborhood you should watch out for...people have a right to know this kind of information. Once you have commited a crime, you lose certain rights, and this is one of them. If you don't do anything wrong again, then it shouldn't be a problem (probably depends where you live in California, but I'd like to think most people are fairly civilized and tolerant here). | |
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| Re: Good move said by cbiggers : If you have kids, this will give you a lot of peace of mind knowing if there is anyone in the neighborhood you should watch out for... Don't get a false sense of security though. Just because someone isn't on the list doesn't mean a thing. Every offender had a first time once.
I'm a father of 2 kids, and I want to know if sex offenders are in my neighborhood, but to have them beaten, vandalized, etc. is just plain stupid.
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| Here is a use. There is a list for Illinois. I have 2 daughters. Before holloween I looked up my area and found 5. I made sure my kids did NOT go trick-or-treating at their houses. -- Ever notice when your a toddler, your taught to walk and talk. When you start school, your told to shut up and sit down. | |
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| Re: Here is a use. said by srbianats :There is a list for Illinois. I have 2 daughters. Before holloween I looked up my area and found 5. I made sure my kids did NOT go trick-or-treating at their houses. Why not?
Did you think they would hand out chocolate dicks to the children?
I would certainly hope that you would have traveled with your children trick or treating as there are more sinister problems with other sicko's on the street. One of the "good" houses could have laced that candy bar with PCP.
It is an unfortunate fact of life that some of these sex offenders have been falsely accused and convicted. It is very easy for a women to claim rape six months after the non-existant event to get even with someone. The female's word is taken at face value, the male's is ignored. The person accused just pleads to a lesser charge to avoid a court trial and possible conviction by a sympathetic jury.
You are ultimately responsible for your daughters safety. You have to make the right decisions and choices. Besides, most of these sex offenders preyed on relatives, not on complete strangers. Even the CA site indicates that.
So your taking your daughters trick or treating to one of those house probably would have been safer than the house of an unknown. Someone that is being watched by the police is not going to poison the candy. | |
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| Re: Here is a use. Easy there. Just playing it safe. I rather just skip the house and go to the next. I only used that as an example. You're taking it way beyond that. I try to involve myself in my kids lives as much as possible. My wife is better at that than I am. We keep an eye on them all the time. I agree with what some has said here. Since I can only use what is available to me at the time to use as a tool (website) in my arsenal to protect my childrem, I will. Even if the website doesn't show detail of what they exactly did. For now the government is what it is. It's up to us to change it. The government (state and ferderal) decided to allow posting of the information. I think they did it without much thought. | |
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1 edit | Re: Here is a use. said by srbianats :Easy there. Just playing it safe. OK. A sensible answer from a sensible parent. | |
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| Is this all that important? First of all, I fully support publishing this information... but only for the worst type of sex offenses, the ones involving adults hurting children.
However, let's not pretend this sort of tool can play anything more than a small role in our fight to protect our kids. Most kids are abused by other relatives or friends of the family... is Uncle Bobby a registered offender? Maybe not. Statistically speaking though, I'd bet it's more important to watch out for him by far than to worry about some sicko who's known to everyone.
A lot of parents, I suppose, don't really have/make time for their kids... they don't know their friends, where they go, etc ...in my opinion, this is more important than any database can ever be. Of course, being a real parent takes work! It's so much easier to go to a website, click a few links, and think the job's done. "No perverts within 2 miles! You kids are all good to go." Yeah right. | |
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| Haven't we lived with this type of fear before? Just some thoughts
Didnt our society have this same fear about homosexuals just a number of years ago? They are now accepted in our society.
Didnt our ancestors have the same feelings about blacks? They are just another person now. (At least in my area)
I think I have seen or heard of research that says your children are more likely to be violated by a family member or someone they know and trust, than a stranger in our neighborhood.
A person can kill a child, do his/her time, and never have to register. But a person who sleeps with their under age girlfriend, or worst, violates a child, is subject to life long tracking, worry, and possible retaliation for something they might have done 20, 30 or 40 years ago.
Why dont we spend our societies money on children, with a better education, more afternoon resources, instead of spending our money on prisons when the kids have nothing to do, no job possibilities, and no self worth.
Because of these lists how much does our society lose with people on the list hiding, living in fear, changing their name. And what does this do for their family.
I sure dont have the answer. I dont think any of us do. I just wish that we could live with more love toward our fellow man, and less fear and distrust.
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| Re: Haven't we lived with this type of fear before? The last thing I need is for my son to be butt-raped by some sicko that happens to be his friend's father. Dude, sh*t happens. It almost happened to the child of some close family friends. Luckily he barely escaped it, and the perp (perve) is now in prison because he had the guts to speak up. Not every kid can do that, regardless of the quality of their upbringing. Apparently there were other victims that weren't so lucky. I can teach my children as well as I can to protect themselves, but children can be very naive and some are easier to coerce.
These creeps are being persecuted for crimes which they were convicted of, not because of their race, gender, sexual preference, or party affiliation. Its a very different thing. I don't know how you could possibly relate them. This is California, not the 60's south! While I don't believe in physically harming them or their property, I have no problem making their lives more difficult.
I have absolutlely no sympathy for the creeps that perform illegal acts with children under 14. Apparently there's one just a block from my house, which I now know because of this site. Oh, and you know what? There's an elementary school close by, too! Now I'm not going to go posting signs demanding him to move, but I certainly won't let my son go play in his yard.
The website luckily differentiates between acts with children under 18 and children under 14. Anyone who takes advantage of someone under 14 deserves public humiliation. The perps should have known better. They don't deserve civil liberties any more. | |
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| Re: Haven't we lived with this type of fear before? Other kids can be sex offenders as well just as easily. It happens all the time. Though like you all said it usually the family members or friends you have to watch out for. -- Thank God i am not getting married, having kids, going on a date, etc! Oh Thank God! | |
|  ricep5 Premium join:2000-08-07 Jacksonville, FL | Substitute parenting A database is no substitute for observant and involved parenting.
Knowing a database exists, why would a convicted & time served offender want to move into a neighborhood full of kids? | |
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