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TOTALLY couldnt abuse that get some one kicked off nope not at all... | |
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its not proof of any thing really | |
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its not proof of any thing really
especially seeing as the courts have said an IP does not equal a person, and the companies that track these torrents and P2P networks are using very unreliable information that can no longer even be submitted to most courts. | |
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kudos:5 | said by silbaco:Quite honestly, I know 1 person who got their connection cut under Mediacom's 3 strikes. And they were completely guilty. I don't know of any instances of false strikes and I know of a lot of people with Mediacom.
Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.
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| Re: Well now people have a legal out... said by Linklist:Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.
I like your linr of reasoning! 
Hyperbolically speaking: "It is better that ten innocent men hang than that one guilty man goes free."
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kudos:5 | Re: Well now people have a legal out... said by NormanS:said by Linklist:Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.
I like your linr of reasoning! Hyperbolically speaking: "It is better that ten innocent men hang than that one guilty man goes free." 6 strikes is a game of statistics, just like the criminal justice system is. Sometimes an innocent is caught up in it. C'est la vie.
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| Re: Well now people have a legal out... said by Linklist:6 strikes is a game of statistics, just like the criminal justice system is. Sometimes an innocent is caught up in it. C'est la vie.
It should not be; especially not the criminal justice system. "Six Strikes" is a rigged game of statistics; rigged in favor of the MAFIAA.
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Fort Pierce, FL | said by Linklist:6 strikes is a game of statistics, just like the criminal justice system is. Sometimes an innocent is caught up in it. C'est la vie.
You say that until it happens to you or someone in your family.... 
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kudos:5 | Re: Well now people have a legal out... said by Jawz :What about all those who watch TV shows and miss an episode or have to work during it's airing?
DVR, OnDemand, network web site, buy it later from Amazon or iTunes, or god forbid just miss that episode.
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If taken to court, bring said I was found innocent due to X reason. 35 dollars is a lot cheaper than the 1000's a lawyer costs to make the same case. | |
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if you win, they pay your lawyers fees, and other things like time off required or damages to reputation and such. The MPAA, or anyone related will not sue anyone anymore because one simply has to file bankruptcy to get out of any judgement against you, and for that matter, they just wasted hours of time on a case to not get paid anything, which would be fine with me. | |
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said by Chubbysumo:...one simply has to file bankruptcy to get out of any judgement against you, and for that matter, they just wasted hours of time on a case to not get paid anything, which would be fine with me. Well, that doesn't just screw them, that affects you as well. Bankruptcy will tarnish your credit report for the next 7 years, meaning that any applications for mortgages, car loans, credit cards, new cell phone contracts, etc. will be denied on the spot. Trying to rent a new apartment? Many landlords run background checks. The second they see bad credit, they will deny you. Same thing with jobs. Many employers also run background checks, and credit check if a part of many of them.
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| Re: Well now people have a legal out... said by axus:Ouch, that seems disproportionate to the offense of copyright infringement.
That is the point. The MAFIAA wants Draconian penalties in a de juris system which costs them nothing to bring a complaint, and for which the penalty is 100% certain in their favor, and sufficiently harsh that Internet users will quake in their chairs as they surf the 'net.
They seem to think they will mitigate piracy by hammering the little guy hard.
Personally, I don't think it will work. For all the piracy I committed, I never feared their hammer; I was not pirating their "junk". I did not stop my piracy out of fear of the MAFIAA; but only because the "stuff" I wanted became easily, and legally available.
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| said by Chubbysumo:The MPAA, or anyone related will not sue anyone anymore because one simply has to file bankruptcy to get out of any judgement against you, and for that matter, they just wasted hours of time on a case to not get paid anything, which would be fine with me. Tell that to Jammie Thomas and Joel Tenenbaum.
Even if they never get paid, a large judgement serves to scare others.
And after all the lobbying the MPAA & RIAA have done to get new copyright laws passed around the world, especially with them asking for even harsher fines and even criminal penalties for copyright infringement, do you really think that after six alerts to the same IP address, they've just going to shrug and say "Oh well, I guess they're not going to stop. Let's just ignore them from now on."?
Not a chance. If the same IP address keeps showing up after the first six strikes, they will take some kind of legal action.
There's no way in hell that the MPAA/RIAA would ever agree to a system that gives a free pass to repeat infringers. | |
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said by jc100:If taken to court, bring said I was found innocent due to X reason. $35 is a lot cheaper than thousands a lawyer costs to make the same case. The problem is that you are paying $35 for a private investigation, the results of which have absolutely no impact on the outcome of the actual court case. If you are unlucky enough to be the target of their lawsuit, your best bet is to settle with them if they offer it, otherwise you have no choice but to lawyer up and defend yourself.
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| said by jc100:Yes, but you've spent 35 dollars to profess innocence. ISP "exonerates you", and the MPAA / RIAA have now lost grounds to sue I'm guessing. After all, open router, hacked, etc, the ISP buys your excuse for the "fee". Your case is looked at by an arbitration company paid for by the copyright holder. Your ISP isn't involved in the process. Since the arbitration company will want to continue being hired, there is a very strong incentive for them to find in favor of the copyright holder. | |
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Camden, TN | said by jc100:They've read the material, spent 35 to protest their innocence (open router, etc), and thus when the MPAA / RIAA try to sue, have a ground to argue they didn't know until informed.
I highly doubt any ISPS are going to cut the cord. They aren't about losing money.
If you leave your router open you kind of deserve to get your internet cut off. Anyone spending $35 to protest is an idiot. It's called 6 strikes and then NOTHING happens so why bother spending $35? And I'll be $1,000,000 not one single innocent person gets flagged 6 times in a row. EVER. WILL NOT HAPPEN. | |
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| Re: Well now people have a legal out... said by BF69:And I'll be $1,000,000 not one single innocent person gets flagged 6 times in a row. EVER. WILL NOT HAPPEN.
Nothing can go wrong ...
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEHniGifKyE
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kudos:1 | Re: Well now people have a legal out... Great movie.  . Maybe I will watch that tonight. | |
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Camden, TN | Ok let's say by some chance you are flagged erroneously 6 times. guess what happens? NOTHING. It's like a parent telling a kid to stop doing something or else they'll just keep telling them to stop doing it. Who cares? What kid would be afraid of that parent? | |
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| Re: Well now people have a legal out... said by BF69:Ok let's say by some chance you are flagged erroneously 6 times. guess what happens? NOTHING. It's like a parent telling a kid to stop doing something or else they'll just keep telling them to stop doing it. Who cares? What kid would be afraid of that parent? You've just outlined the very reason that there WILL be legal action taken against people who don't stop sharing copyrighted files after the first six alerts. Or whose IP address shows up more than six times.
In case you hadn't noticed, the copyright industry is a rabid supporter of harsher penalties for copyright infringement. Doesn't it seem odd to you that they would agree to a plan with no teeth?
It's true that the six strikes plan itself doesn't detail anything happening beyond the sixth strike, but that's only to avoid the negative PR that would result if they had included further penalties in writing. If you read the fine print, it says that after the first six alerts, information will continue to be collected and then the copyright holder can get a court order to turn over the subscriber's information in order to file legal action against them. | |
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Leave an outside electrical outlet unlocked it's you're own fault your neighbor ran an extension cord to it.
Leave your car unlocked it's your fault someone stole it.
It's all the same. It blows my mind that there are people out there that would blame the victim. | |
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| said by BF69:It's called 6 strikes and then NOTHING happens so why bother spending $35? Because if your IP address keeps showing up after the six strikes, you can bet your ass that something will happen. Most likely some kind of legal action. | |
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Springfield, MA | Just legally download your content I download my music on iTunes and I can buy movies on iTunes as well. I have never gotten a copyright warning because I pay for my content and get it from legitimate sources. | |
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| | I'm pretty sure... I read that after your 5th violation you get a 6 month term at a regional "Reeducation Camp". | |
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| | what about the 7th time ? i have read that nothing happens after the sixth strike.
i have also read that ISPs will not be turning over information on subscribers.
so does that mean its a good idea to get the six strikes over with to enjoy unrestricted internet from that point on?
perhaps we(the people of the internet) should compile a list of likely false detected downloads allowing people to legally hop through the six strikes without actually pirating anything. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: what about the 7th time ? said by anonphoneuse :i have read that nothing happens after the sixth strike.
i have also read that ISPs will not be turning over information on subscribers.
so does that mean its a good idea to get the six strikes over with to enjoy unrestricted internet from that point on?
perhaps we(the people of the internet) should compile a list of likely false detected downloads allowing people to legally hop through the six strikes without actually pirating anything.
The monitoring group can still go to court and force the ISP to turn over the info. But would be forced to do it legally, with an individual subpoena, & not the copyright-amatic way they often do now. The ISP still has to obey legal court orders.
But that isn't the point of the 6 strikes process. It is to greatly REDUCE the numbers of people infringing copyright. If copyright infringement is reduced say by a very conservative 50%, the RIAA & MPAA are ahead of the game. It is all a numbers game. The die-hard ingringement addicts will find a way to beat the system, but this will discourage the occassional infinger - which is the whole reason for 6 strikes.
We will still see the posts from the hackers and the die-hards who download more music than they can listen to in a lifetime bragging how easy they beat the system. But who cares - the RIAA really doesn't.
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El Paso, TX | Re: what about the 7th time ? said by msmisfit:Perhaps, we (internet users) should just pay for the content we want, and stop complaining about what happens if we steal from others?
You have solved the piracy problem my friend. Go on now, go claim your prize. | |
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| said by anonphoneuse :i have read that nothing happens after the sixth strike. Except that they continue to flag your IP address if it shows up as sharing copyrighted material. And when the MPAA/RIAA gets fed up with the fact that you're not being a good little consumer, they'll get a court order to get your information from the ISP and then they'll sue you. | |
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|  Dude111An Awesome DudePremium
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I have also read that ISPs will not be turning over information on subscribers.
Well arent they kinda being forced into this?? (If they get a complaint they will act??)
If so,they probably dont really care themselves what ppl do! (But they arent gonna take a chance if they get a report about something) | |
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| | will $35 reset my count ? if i pay $35 and win my case does it reset my count and i go through six new strikes?
if so it sounds much better to me to get the six over with since nothing happens after the sixth strike. | |
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kudos:5 | Re: will $35 reset my count ? said by anonphoneuse :if i pay $35 and win my case does it reset my count and i go through six new strikes?
if so it sounds much better to me to get the six over with since nothing happens after the sixth strike.
In your case, only Comcast can answer that question. Each ISP will have its own enforcement process. The $35 fee is to pay the arbitrator, who decides if you were wronged. But it is up to Comcast on doing something about it.
»www.copyrightinformation.org/the···t-alert/
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| said by anonphoneuse :if i pay $35 and win my case does it reset my count and i go through six new strikes? You won't win your case because the review board will be a company paid for by the copyright owner.
said by anonphoneuse :if so it sounds much better to me to get the six over with since nothing happens after the sixth strike. By what stretch of the imagination do you believe that the same corporations who think that distributing copyrighted material should be a felony, would agree to a system that just ignores repeat infringers? | |
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So when you're given strikes for false positives then what? You can't prove innocence any more than someone who is guilty. Oh but their system must be 100% perfect right? | |
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kudos:5 | Re: Won't using said by Mr Matt:Not if you never illegally downloaded copyrighted material and you receive a letter because the ISP was sloppy linking the date when you were assigned the IP address, that was previously assigned to another subscriber's account. So they send you a warning letter even though another subscriber previous assigned the IP address did the dirty deed.
Chances are extremely remote. Too bad for those where some human made a mistake somewhere along the line. That's life - not always fair.
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| | | | said by Mr Matt:Not if you never illegally downloaded copyrighted...
That is a misnomer. Downloading copyrighted material is NOT illegal. Copyright covers distribution. No one, in the USA, has been sued for just downloading something. But, you will never hear this from the media companies or their shills. They want you to believe just listening to a song or watching a movie is illegal unless you paid.
I am all for paying for content. Up until recently that hasn't been the easiest thing. But things like Netflix and Hulu have been great, well for me anyway. But even with those services, the greedy middle man gets in the way. Stop putting arbitrary restrictions on content. Why is a new episode only available for 3 days, or only available 8 days after airing? I think it is the filthy middle man that bothers me and probably others. Why does the average author only get about 20% from book sales? They wrote the freaking thing? Why doesn't the average musician get 80% or more of the profits? What about the artists that write, direct and act in movies? | |
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If subscribers start receiving letters and punishment they'll just downgrade their current service or find another ISP and most probably won't subscribe to VPNs because 1. current prices will skyrocket 2. whats the point of paying for something? | |
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Actually they do.
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| | This might suck for hotels i do hotel tech support and hotels are treated like home users to alot of isp's, ive seen hotel internet cut off due to dmca notices and virus alerts.
problem is these are open networks that anyone staying at the hotel can use and its near impossible to prevent P2P and virus's from causing issues, we block most of it but without a very powerfull hardware firewall we cant stop it all.
all isp's tell us to do is password protect the network, which we do but that doesnt stop the guests with the passwords from causing problems | |
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kudos:5 | Re: This might suck for hotels said by jax0r :problem is these are open networks that anyone staying at the hotel can use and its near impossible to prevent P2P and virus's from causing issues, we block most of it but without a very powerfull hardware firewall we cant stop it all.
If you run an open hotspot(like a hotel or a Starbucks), part of due diligence is paying someone to install & maintain a powerful firewall.
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| | | | Re: This might suck for hotels said by Linklist:said by jax0r :problem is these are open networks that anyone staying at the hotel can use and its near impossible to prevent P2P and virus's from causing issues, we block most of it but without a very powerfull hardware firewall we cant stop it all.
If you run an open hotspot(like a hotel or a Starbucks), part of due diligence is paying someone to install & maintain a powerful firewall. that sort of higher end hot spot is typically way beyond the budget of a small hotel/motel. it's pretty unrealistic to expect more than a typical cable/DSL small business connection with a router attached. | |
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| | | | | Re: This might suck for hotels Wouldn't a business account better protect a small hotel that wants to have free wifi? | |
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| | | | | | Re: This might suck for hotels said by NeoandGeo:Wouldn't a business account better protect a small hotel that wants to have free wifi?
verizon has said no, it does not. verizon also stated that these account are not allowed to be used for public hotspots to begin with. there really is no other option though.
where can a single location business get a true hotspots service similar to starbucks at a reasonable cost? i am pretty sure no one offers that. | |
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Laval, QC | Solidarite Tenez vous par la main,tenez vous ensemble,comme le gouvernement fait de son coté,comme la police le fait de son coté,comme l'armée le fait,comme une colonie de ofurmis le fait face à un envahisseur...
Tenez vous,coupez tous ensemble les service internet,protestez vous aussi.Que les salaire de vedette diminue...Les fil mvont couté moins chère.
Mais de toute facon,ce n'Est pas une question de légalité ou ilégalité.
Réveillez-vous!
Dans les jeuxvideo,il existe les jeu d'occaz,et bien les compagnies veulent éliminé la revente de jeu.Il veule que tous paie le prix d'un jeu neuf.
Même s'il n'y avait pas de telechargement dit illégal selon ceux qui veule tous quont paie le meme prix malgré le fait que nous faisont pas tous le meme salaire  ,ils trouverait le moyen illogique de nous faire payez encore plus chère.
Toute facon,j'achèterai pas plus que maintenant,et si je vois que c'est pu possible de telecharger sans embrouille,je couperai mon service internet (qui est deja coupé actuellement, viva free wifi).
Les citoyens ordinaires,ils nous manque qu'un e chose,et c'est de se tenir tous ensemble face au system qui nous impose ses règle stricte ses nouveau règlements,sinon rien en changera.Nous faisont peut-etre un salaire différent,vous avez peut-etre une ferrari alors que mois j'ai une chevette*,mais nous vivons selon les même règles,le meme system....Faut que l'ont se tienne,comme le system lui meme se tien entre lui. | |
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| MJB
join:2012-01-29 | What About Canada Will This End Up In Canada ?
Third Party ISP's
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Let's see them snoop that.
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Homestead, FL | Re: epic Fail! I thought that as well. But you could always bounce your connection all over the world. How are they going to deal with that?
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1 edit | Free VPN and Usenet Well, at least for those stuck on crappy DSL there are some nice free VPN services out there. I can't comment on the speed of them if you're on a faster connection.
I've been using »www.vpnbook.com/ for a couple weeks for torrents with no issues. | |
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