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KishKish gets the nod from the Skype crew
(old news - 05:25PM Friday Dec 15 2006)
tags: VoIP · software · Oddities
We first saw this mentioned last summer, but a Skype-lie detection add-on has apparently caught the eye of the BBC. The KishKish Lie Detector add-on detects stress patterns in the human voice and attempts to identify whether you're talking to (or are) a liar. There's not much new information other than the fact that it's being made by developer BATM and that it will now be distributed by Skype as an official premium add-on. There's no launch date, no price tag and no independent verification that the service actually works.

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AnonProxy
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Need better voice quality

Yeah will it also detect crappy line quality?

Mactron
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Re: Need better voice quality

said by AnonProxy See Profile :

Yeah will it also detect crappy line quality?
Damn ! Is your Cable HSI screwed up again !??

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ptrowski
Got Helix?
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Cue the higher divorce rate...

I can see some simple minded people trying to use this as a real lie detector.

swhx7
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Elbonia
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Re: Cue the higher divorce rate...

Right, it's like the conventional polygraphs: the proposition that they detect falsehoods is based on the assumption that what they do detect corresponds to falsehood.

Conventional polygraphs report on heart and respiration rates, skin conductivity, etc.. Certain changes in these may or may not correspond to lying. The voice stress analyzers detect something that may or may not correspond to lying. I'm not convinced it has even been tested realistically - obviously you can test it with requested lies in artificial situations, but to test it in real conditions you would have to send out detectives to independently find out whether statements were or were not true.

It may be useful, but there should be some disclaimers about the very questionable reliability.
Misterman

join:2004-04-02
Saratoga, CA

Anxiety = Lying?

I have general anxiety so I have stress, mostly when in large groups talking to people. So will I always be branded as a liar?

TK Junk Mail
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December 15th, @05:36PM

Re: Anxiety = Lying?

said by Misterman See Profile :

I have general anxiety so I have stress, mostly when in large groups talking to people. So will I always be branded as a liar?
I don't believe that you are telling the truth about your anxiety or stress. So, you must be a liar.

Without a baseline of how someone responds to emotion laden questions and not knowing if they are also telling the truth or lying about those baseline questions, a tool like this can merely show whether you are stressed or not. It can't really tell if someone is lying.
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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Re: Anxiety = Lying?

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

Without a baseline of how someone responds to emotion laden questions and not knowing if they are also telling the truth or lying about those baseline questions
If one puts a tack in one's shoe and presses down on it during the baseline questions one can pass the test.

76766337

join:2004-09-26
Riverside, IL

A toy which does not work

This is at best a simple toy. I have tried it and it does not work. For amusement purposes only.

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Allah Says
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Warning

Do Not Call Any Politicians if you have this add-on or your service will be overloaded and your phone may melt.

hayabusa3303
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Re: Warning

One more call your ISP tech support that would crash it.

Doctor Four
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That should also apply to Used Car Salesmen, and especially
spammers.

Sh0rD
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Arlington, TN

$ $ $

I think it has to do more with publicity. It will just appeal to the intellectually declined.

thender
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Staten Island, NY
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audio technology is amazing.

Lansing 604E speakers, sound similar to modern Thiels, and other high quality speaker brands. They were designed in 1939 and remade thousands of times.

But phones have been around for 100 years and still sound like something made in 1890.. completely awful sound quality. No frequency range, tons of distortion.

How the hell are you going to detect stress in the human voice, when the average guy can't even tell his girlfriend from his girlfriend's mother over such a low quality connection?
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batterup
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Re: audio technology is amazing.

said by thender See Profile :



But phones have been around for 100 years and still sound like something made in 1890.. completely awful sound quality. No frequency range, tons of distortion.

I doubt you were around in 1890. I went to a phone exhibit at a museum and they had a demonstration of what a phone call sounded like over the years. My phones are wired and I can tell who I am talking to. Maybe it is the VoIP and cell crap you are referring to.

thender
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December 15th, @10:48PM

Re: audio technology is amazing.

said by batterup See Profile :

said by thender See Profile :

But phones have been around for 100 years and still sound like something made in 1890.. completely awful sound quality. No frequency range, tons of distortion.

I doubt you were around in 1890. I went to a phone exhibit at a museum and they had a demonstration of what a phone call sounded like over the years. My phones are wired and I can tell who I am talking to. Maybe it is the VoIP and cell crap you are referring to.
I was waiting for the first DSLRish "I can look smart by taking that part of your post literally when you obviously never meant it to be literally" response. Good job.

a) No, I wasn't around in 1980. How did you know?!

I can infer that it sounded bad because of the technology around then, and because logically, 100 years later, the technology would not have sounded worse. It would have sounded better, or stagnated.

b) Yes, phone quality does suck. Maybe you can make out who you're talking to. I do too most of the time, but every now and then someone messes up and thinks they're talking to their girlfriend instead of her mom, or a different brother. Or you have to say 'what' where you would understand the conversation perfectly in real life.

Phones have an awful range.. they don't go much past 4 KHz, they have tons of distortion. I didn't mean in the line - even in a 100% perfect transfer, the audio itself is of very low quality because the standard is low quality, because the standard was made back when just any sort of audio recording/reproduction was considered an amazing leap of technology. The fact that you have to say "b as in boy" if you're in tech support telling someone an RMA number or a command to type in is proof of this.

We have come far with microphones and headphones over the years, but phones sound the same. I know the speaker and mic are cheap, but they can do better. They don't need to sound like crap, it's 2006. In 1938 they had the equipment available to make things sound better, so certainly it's there now.
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Time to rewrite the DMCA.

koolman2
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Re: audio technology is amazing.

They don't go past 4 kHz, since the connection is sampled at 8 kHz.
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thender
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December 15th, @11:19PM

Re: audio technology is amazing.

said by koolman2 See Profile :

They don't go past 4 kHz, since the connection is sampled at 8 kHz.
That is what I said, and this is my point.

If you did get that I said that, and your point was to say, I said "don't go much past" vs "don't go past".. that's worse than being an online spell checker.

koolman2
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Anchorage, AK

Re: audio technology is amazing.

Sorry, I was very tired last night and was in somewhat of a grumpy mood.
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HFB1217
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Bush league detectives toys.

There have been articles over the years about the voice analyzers and purportedly used in states where it is illegal to use lie detectors for employment and employee interviews the government even tried using it and found it unreliable.

I will wait for the first law suits filed against Skype where it caused a Divorce or some other equally inane damage when used by the less bright and rational people who are fooled by pseudo technologies and hype.
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Dude111
An Awesome Dude
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USA

I wouldnt want skype to detect ANYTHING about my voice,etc..

 
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