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join:2004-08-02 Seattle, WA
| Quit Reporting...... I don't see why news like this has to be reported. Don't let a good thing get ruined. Now that it is becoming mainstream news in the geek arena, Comcast will hear of it even sooner and the Permaboost will be kicked back to Powerboost that much sooner. | |
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 |   Chiyo Save Me Konata-Chan Premium join:2003-02-20 Minneapolis, MN clubs:
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| Re: Quit Reporting...... or why be positive and think Comcast might see that they are getting positive marks from people who really get the most out of their internet connection and bring us faster speeds?
Just staying positive. -- "Sure there have been injuries and deaths in boxing - but none of them serious."- Alan Minter, Boxer"I get to go to lots of overseas places, like Canada."- Britney Spears, Pop Singer | |
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join:2006-11-26 Pensacola, FL | Re: Quit Reporting...... I guess those reporting it are NOT getting it so they don't want anyone to have it? Maybe? | |
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| said by Steve B :I don't see why news like this has to be reported. Don't let a good thing get ruined. Now that it is becoming mainstream news in the geek arena, Comcast will hear of it even sooner and the Permaboost will be kicked back to Powerboost that much sooner. I doubt very seriously this is an accident. I'm sure Comcast is well aware and it's not impacting the network.
Doesn't powerboost just basically use extra bandwidth that is available on the node until other users require it anyway? -- Use the OS tool for the job. | |
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 |   71131305 KA Tradewiz50. Yup I'm back baby Premium join:2007-01-09 Newark, DE
| said by Steve B :I don't see why news like this has to be reported. Don't let a good thing get ruined. Now that it is becoming mainstream news in the geek arena, Comcast will hear of it even sooner and the Permaboost will be kicked back to Powerboost that much sooner. They already know. | |
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join:2001-04-29 Winter Park, FL
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| Re: Quit Reporting...... Yeah, we know about it. The CMTS is the active piece of equipment that make the necessary adjustments. It's partially dependent on the saturation of the node, and current usage also. In other words, you could have 5 people on a node, 100% usage, and they would be perma-boost, then you can have 20 people on a node, and only 1 @ 100% usage, and that 1 person, because 19 others are in there with him, will only see a brief burst, then it will decline. Don't get this mixed up though, even saturated nodes might have full time boost, it depends on how many other saturated CMTS cards are in the same CMTS server. This is at least my understanding on how powerboost impacts folks. This, of course, is not an offical response from anyone, but it does offer an explaination for those not familiar with the technology... -- SIPPhone/Gizmo # 17476200648 / PIMPNET Chatline / Ran by Asterisk & Slackware 10.1. | |
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 |   sean151 Class 2008 Premium join:2003-12-04 Auburn, WA clubs: | Hey atleast powerboost works for them. My network has not seen this powerboost at work yet and am under 4mbits almost always if I am ever above it. | |
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join:2002-07-14 30876
| Re: Quit Reporting...... Really? We've had the powerboost working here in the Atlanta area for a while. It's nice to see the high speed download kick in for those first few seconds. While I wouldn't mind if they made the PowerBoost into a perma-boost I'm more interested in seeing them increase the upload speeds. I rarely see a need for a higher download speed than the 6Mbit I'm getting now, but could often use a higher upload speed. I've seen some discussion of that happpening, but so far no comfirmation of it. | |
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join:2004-08-02 Seattle, WA | I know, I know. I just sometimes think that if things like this weren't reported, it probably would be around longer. You guys are right though, LOL. | |
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 |  Nagrom Nniuq
join:2002-11-19 Springfield, OR | Ya. I have this permaboost but, unless it's intentional, I'm sure it will disappear now. | |
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 |   danclan
join:2005-11-01 Midlothian, VA | i love my power boost....oh wait its permanent and its called FIOS 30/5 for 55$!!!!
muahahahahahahah ( yeah whatever just label me fanboy for this thread) | |
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join:2003-02-24 Bossier City, LA | Re: Quit Reporting...... Hog Wash | |
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join:2002-04-01 New Baltimore, MI
| said by danclan :i love my power boost....oh wait its permanent and its called FIOS 30/5 for 55$!!!! muahahahahahahah ( yeah whatever just label me fanboy for this thread) I will just label you Cock-boy | |
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  Rob In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA Premium join:2001-08-25 Kendall, FL | The only permaboost I want to see is speed increases.. So where's that 16/1 , 16/2 tier plan?? | |
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  Fox McCloud Crazy like a fox.
join:2006-07-23
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| Wow. 3500 kb/s?! That's a 28 meg connection! Geesh.
I just hope Comcast won't take note of this and rework their system so that it doesn't work anymore.
Also, how long does this 'permaboost' last? And does it work while just downloading files, or surfing too? | |
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join:2002-01-22 Wheaton, IL clubs:
| Re: Wow. Yeah basically. I have been seeing quite often on websites that can support that speed (dl.tv is a great one) about 3.2MB/S (3200 KB/S). That allows downloading of a 200 MB files in less than a minute. -- Serenity Day - June 23rd 2006. You Can't Stop the Signal | |
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join:2003-10-01 Columbia, MO | You might want to re-check your math there sparky.
(PS: kb=kilobits, KB=kilobytes. Yeah that's being a bit picky, but this IS broadbandreports.com) -- Burrow owl...burrow owl... | |
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| Re: Wow. said by CrazyFingers :You might want to re-check your math there sparky. (PS: kb=kilobits, KB=kilobytes. Yeah that's being a bit picky, but this IS broadbandreports.com) He IS correct. It's literally that fast. | |
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 |   KAD Imaging Just Shoot It Premium join:2002-09-21 Hialeah, FL
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| Re: Think Positive! said by dadkins :More and more Comcast customers are seeing extended speed downloads... ala PermaBoost(© Big_D)!  This is good if you really think about it: More sites/servers will need to upgrade *their* bandwidth for millions of new patrons wanting their files at break-neck speeds. Comcast sees that customers like getting their files in seconds instead of minutes, or in minutes vs hours... YAY! Sure, we will see those that expect to run full on for days(on what is anyone's guess) get abuse letters/phonecalls... oh well! Not going to bother me!  I download in the range of 30GB per month. More speed means I get to USE my files now instead of later. It does *NOT* mean I can download more - there's not that much out there to download! I either already have it, or it just plain sucks and I don't want it. Yeah! I do see 3MB/sec+ from a couple sites. Imagine, more and more demand for faster delivery will(should) intice sites to deliver faster. Credit where credit is due: Thanks Verizon FiOS! Comcast does have a little horsepower on tap, now more and more of us Comcast customers are seeing some of it! Verizon has made Comcast see that there is a want out there for {Tim Allen} More Power!{/Tim Allen} Thanks! /flame suit activate
Yeah, but someone talk to me when there's multiple "Permaboost" users on the same node. We'll see what the speeds look like then. 
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join:2002-10-02 PwnZone | Re: Now they can... indeed, when you wanna download the world you get 1gbps warez servers | |
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join:2004-02-29 Miami, FL
| Too good to be true
Yes, I am getting 3.5 Megabyte per second the first five seconds of a download.
Yes, Some time at peak hour, I get permanent speed from 2.5 to 4.5 because the download stream is not constant. It mean intermitent download the dowload starts and Stop and speed goes from 0 to 4.5 several times in one minute. It looks like the speed is high when you see the speed window but the average is 1 MB/sec which is what I am paying. | |
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1 edit | Re: Too good to be true Unknown. No "Official" word on what/when/where has been stated(that I can find at least).
If your area can deal with the load, it should just blast away!
Comcast is NOT just sitting on their collective hands. Miles and miles of fiber is laid - has been for a long time now! More areas everyday are seeing wild download speeds that are sustained!
Now, if a few thousand new subscribers hit your area, speeds may fizzle a bit - until Comcast splits the node(I hate that word!).
Lets do a little math:
11 million x 2.5-3.5MB/sec = a sh**load! It's there, the problem is, Comcast doesn't want to crank it up and watch an area fall to it's knees. Some of the equipment out there is tired at best. It takes time to replace all that equipment/lines so it won't go up in smoke.
No telling on how long I had these speeds hitting my modem. I had an AV that was more or less strangling my speeds. It was a fluke that I found out that I could download at these speeds!  I have since tossed out that AV and I am now using a different one that doesn't kill off the speed! 
Now, the problem at hand is that most places can't or won't deliver at the speeds I have on tap. ___________________________________________________________________
NO!!! Me having 3+MB/sec does NOT mean I am going to download more! It means, what I download gets here FASTER! Comcast is selling SPEED, not VOLUME!
To all the people that think it is their right to nuke the network, I will look for your posts in the Comcast Forum! 
Look for me enjoying the speeds for what they were intended for, not what I feel I am entitled to!  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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join:2004-06-26
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| Soon to be permabone? I don't have Comcast by choice, and this isn't a bash post (though I will bash any cableco when the mood hits), but one can't help but correlate the recent increase in powerboost, or permaboost, to the increase in TV ads promoting powerboost along with $19.99 for three month promo deals in qualifying markets. Either Comcast has a 'hidden inch' of bandwidth or, more likely, they have some to spare for other reasons. Whichever the case may be, nothing lasts forever, so I'd certainly enjoy it while you can. -- .sig currently unavailable. Try again later. | |
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 |   dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| Re: Soon to be permabone? Comcast has had a boatload of bandwidth for a while now(research HFC, CRAN). Many areas have under serviced/old equipment that would die if they turned up the faucet.
Back in 2004, Comcast redid everything here in Hercules.
Shiny new fiber, all new taps, lots of digging up and down the streets.
Seeing as Comcast serves 33? States and 11 million HSI subscribers, and keeps buying/swaping plants that are likely neglected, they have work ahead of them.
I'm paying the same $52.95 that I was back when "fast" meant 4mbps. Now, fast means 8mbps(same $52.95). Someone gets the idea for PowerBoost. Cool! It's FREE! FREE as in, my monthly bill hasn't gone up in years!
So, if I can find a server somewhere that can push REALLY fast speeds, I can pull in 3MB/sec. Do you think I'm going to complain?
As long as I am getting my 8mbps that I pay for, getting a file at 28mbps is acceptable.  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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join:2006-12-12 Arnold, MD
| Perma-sap? For 3 weeks prior to Thanksgiving, I was getting sub-1Mbps speeds on my Comcast HSI that routinely ran 6-7 Mbps. Now, I understand that congestion can bog down your speed, but in this case is was a permanent drain on my bandwidth for an extended period of time. Should I dub that "perma-sap"? For all the Comcast commercials about powerboost, I never observed any boosted transfer rates up until I switched to FIOS in December. | |
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  Rick Premium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT clubs: 
| Why are some people.. presenting this as a mistake on comcasts part?
They've been real pioneers in rolling out this whole powerboost technology (now used by COX too I think)..and it makes perfect sense that they would continue to refine and improve upon it.
The whole basis for having powerboost is to make use of available bandwidth. And, in doing so..you help people get their files quicker..and probably help many get OFF the network quicker as well..making the bandwidth available for the next guy.
It would make perfect sense for them to have refined this to allow for even greater speeds and time that one can use this, provided that the bandwidth is still there and available, and not interfering with anyone else.
Having just been converted over to comcast just this week from the adelphia buyout..upgrading to their 8Mb/768k program..I'm now seeing at times up to 18 to 20Mb dl's with powerboost. Coming from around 4400k just a few days ago with adelphia I REALLY have to say that I'm IMPRESSED with this service and company so far.
They're showing already that they can compete with FTTH...and this isn't even docsis 3.0 we're talking about.
I'm trying to still keep the jury out for a while on my overall transition but so far..I really like what I see with Comcast and their HSI offerings.
Hopefully, everyone will soon be so lucky with their isp's offerings as we are with Comcast and powerboost. -- The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! | |
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join:2002-04-02 East Palestine, OH
| Re: Why are some people.. said by Rick :Coming from around 4400k just a few days ago with adelphia I REALLY have to say that I'm IMPRESSED with this service and company so far. Your honeymoon period will be over soon.  | |
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join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC
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| Great! It's nice to get more than you pay for. I hope people aren't serious about saying "hide it!". The funny would be if Comcast sends nasty letters referring to "to much bandwidth usage" now that it's easier to go over the soft cap.
I use Comcast, I don't use enough sustained bandwidth to see how long Powerboost lasts. I'd rather have more upload bandwidth for bittorrent, but getting youtube clips and game demos faster is always a good thing. | |
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2 edits | I'm Gettin Some of the good stuff I'll stick my neck out and say I'm getting it...
Up to an extremely consistent 2.0 - 2.1 MB/sec download if the feeding site can support it.
I'm also a recent adelphia refugee still paying for a premium account, so I assumed and/or hoped this was a reflection of that.
That's multithreaded connections, I'm hoping I can see some of the really high end stuff one of these days. | |
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 |   Rick Premium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT clubs: 
| Re: I'm Gettin Some of the good stuff said by chanur :I'm also a recent adelphia refugee still paying for a premium account, so I assumed and/or hoped this was a reflection of that. Assuming you were on adelphia's 6000/768k plan for 59.95, did your account convert over that way with the same speeds/prices?
Users here in Ct. seem to have been converted over to 6000/384 for some strange reason. In any event, several people I know including myself were able to then call and get on comcasts 8000/768k plan for 52.95 which really is the better deal anyway. Made all that much better because of powerboost. -- The Coyote captured the RR! Roadrunner Rick is now Comcastic! | |
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1 edit | Re: I'm Gettin Some of the good stuff said by Rick :said by chanur :I'm also a recent adelphia refugee still paying for a premium account, so I assumed and/or hoped this was a reflection of that. Assuming you were on adelphia's 6000/768k plan for 59.95, did your account convert over that way with the same speeds/prices? Users here in Ct. seem to have been converted over to 6000/384 for some strange reason. In any event, several people I know including myself were able to then call and get on comcasts 8000/768k plan for 52.95 which really is the better deal anyway. Made all that much better because of powerboost. I was on the 6000/768k plan. No indication was given by comcast as to what I was cut over to, account wise; but I am seeing 20000-21000 down, consistent all the way through the download (as your measuring it) and still have what probably is 768k up... the actual rates I am seeing up were in the high 600's on speed tests but that was in December, I have not tested since. On adelphia the up speeds were a a little higher but I have not tweaked anything at all yet on comcast, I may be able to boost it a bit. | |
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join:2002-04-05 Jamaica, NY | very empty node Its probably obvious, that Permaboost is a very empty node. If the speed isnt going to be used anyway, why not give it to whoever comes and get happier customers in some places atleast? | |
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 |   dadkins Can you do Blu? Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA
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| Re: very empty node said by patcat88 :Its probably obvious, that Permaboost is a very empty node. If the speed isnt going to be used anyway, why not give it to whoever comes and get happier customers in some places atleast? That, or... no bandwidth hogs on a clogged node eating up bandwidth all day long.
Maybe even, some areas have newer equipment that can handle higher data transfers without choking?
Either way, Works for me!  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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join:2006-06-11 Wilmington, DE | Re: very empty node so technically if im up at like 3 am or something i should get full permaboost? | |
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| Re: very empty node No idea. It all depends on your area/market, and how many people are sucking the life out of the Head End.
Also, has PB even been enabled in your market? -- Think outside the Fox... Opera | |
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join:2006-06-11 Wilmington, DE | Re: very empty node yes i have powerboost in my area but it only lasts 3 seconds so im assuming that my node is being used a lot?
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join:2005-11-07 Londonderry, VT | Gotta luv livin in the Boonies I get this most evenings in Vermont but my local node never gets over 50% capacity and the busiest it gets is on holiday weekends then I see normal Powerboost .I live a ski area so theres many second home owners. | |
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join:2002-06-03 Clinton, NY | permaboost = permagrin? no 'permagrin' comments... disappointing. | |
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join:2004-02-13 Chicago, IL | Sure Comcast will "fix" this problem Oh yeah thanks for bringing this up and posted it here in a public forum. I'm sure Comcast will "fix" this little problem quickly. | |
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| Re: Sure Comcast will "fix" this problem said by lkviewguy :Oh yeah thanks for bringing this up and posted it here in a public forum. I'm sure Comcast will "fix" this little problem quickly. It's been in the forum for a long time now. Executive type reports are made from the Comcast forum and sent to a whole bunch of higher ups. Mistake or not, Comcast has known about it for quite some time. | |
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  plk bo may sleep in loft Premium join:2002-04-20 Ogden, IA
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I'm not sure what they are doing exactly, but why not make or design smart pipes....if no one is on....you get all that is available. If no one else is using it...does it matter? Divide available bandwidth per user on the fly. -- Thermaltake 2000a/Asus P4C-e/p4 3.4/ocz3500 2x512/WD.2x200g/raptor2x74 raid 0/ATI 9600/APC sua 1500/Logitech z-680/ Samsung 213t LCD/MX 1000 | |
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join:2004-07-03
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| This is so wrong I'm surprised that fanatical anti- beat the Comcast Newsgroup account 2 GB limit guy isn't jumping in about how morally wrong this is to utilize. This is one of those Hitler Youth moments to make the world a better place(for yourself and everyone who thinks just like you) -- Get Verizon FIOS,The Anti-DIOS | |
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join:2005-11-08 Bellingham, WA | Had the permaboost now gone. I had the permaboost for over a month and today its gone. Kinda sucks I was really used to the download speeds and then they yanked it away. Oh well it was fun while it lasted. | |
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join:2001-03-03 Lincoln University, PA
| Re: Had the permaboost now gone.I am trying to figure why I am not even getting the advertised Powerboost in my area, PLUS, I am not even getting their advertised 784up.

I have not called to complain as I am supposed to be at the 6meg down tier, and I've been getting 8meg for about a yr, but last fall they sent emails and post cards saying "We've doubled your upload speed, we are a wonderful ISP", but I haven't seen it.
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join:2001-12-26 Catonsville, MD clubs:  | permaboost!! I have to get my bill paid before I get ZeroBOOST!  | |
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