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For rough math sake, say $50/month for 300GB
At overage rates $10GBx300 = $3000!
So they are saying once we hit 300GB data is worth 60X more?!!! | |
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| Re: Problem MATH said by Jerm:So lets get this straight:
For rough math sake, say $50/month for 300GB
At overage rates $10GBx300 = $3000!
So they are saying once we hit 300GB data is worth 60X more?!!! Yeah, that math doesn't make sense.. that's wireless data prices and crazy for wireline.. I thought the idea was $10 for every 50 additional gb...
Nevertheless, if you're on a plan that pays more than $100 a month for internet there should be NO, ZERO, ZILCH, ZIPPO caps..that would obviously be business class afforability wise, if not in QOS.. and 100 - 150 megabit tier-- currently AFAIK, the 50 megabit tier with Comcast is close to the $100 mark.. which is as I suspected, price collusion with Verizon.. and utter GREED! | |
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Metro Ethernet runs in the $1000 per month range. Nobody cares if you max out the line for every second of every day for the full month, because you've paid for that dedicated capacity.
Clearly, then, $100 per month business-class service depends on some degree of statistical multiplexing. You simply cannot max out the line without impacting other customers on the same node. | |
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| Re: Problem MATH said by tanzam75:Clearly, then, $100 per month business-class service depends on some degree of statistical multiplexing. You simply cannot max out the line without impacting other customers on the same node. Well, presumably the higher price of the service would fund infrastructure upgrades to allow them to offer a lower contention ratio than they otherwise could. Business class service can also be prioritized over residential service during times of congestion. I'm not sure if Comcast does this but I know my provider (Frontier) does.
Another consideration is that most businesses care more about latency than they do about sustained transfer rates. They need webpages to load snappily, VoIP to work, VPNs to work, RDP to work, etc, etc. Online backups are about the only thing a typical business would need sustained data transfer speeds for, but even that isn't really a consideration, most online backups are incremental, and they can be scheduled to occur during off-peak times. Additionally, many businesses would care more about the upstream than the downstream, they need it for road warriors and the like. Torrent kiddies notwithstanding, the upstream side of the equation is underutilized in most ISP networks, so the contention ratio is less of a concern there.
My employer shares a connection with 55-60 employees; in the last four weeks we've used 78.21GB down and 26.55GB up. Our 95th percentile is 1.09mbit/s, meaning that 95% of the time we were using less bandwidth than that. Most employers would be even lower on the downstream, we've got classrooms that do a fair amount of video streaming, whereas most business entities really have no need for that. | |
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For rough math sake, say $50/month for 300GB
At overage rates $10GBx300 = $3000!
So they are saying once we hit 300GB data is worth 60X more?!!! You're pretty bad at math pal, it's $10 per 50gb overage, meaning for $60 you get 300gb over...Lrn2Math | |
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| Even though our area cable service is with TWC. As long the company offers good service and unlimited bandwidth. That's what counts the most for me.
We really don't use that much bandwidth per month. But least it's something we don't have to worry about. We are on 30 Mbps down 5 Mbps up which is good enough for us. | |
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| Competitive Markets I wonder if Comcast intends to enforce these caps in their competitive markets (most of their urban NE division).
Right now they're slightly beating Verizon FiOS on price here. Once they add overages, it will be likely that many users will pay the higher monthly price for FiOS rather than pay/worry about overages. | |
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Comcast is beginning to advertise on the DC stations how they are increasing speeds at no additional cost, a slight at the FiOS Quantum marketing which did raise prices considerably for a lot of customers. | |
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That said with what the highest speed tiers cost, they should be uncapped. At over $100/mo for the fastest tiers, I think they make up for lost CATV revenues from the person watching Netflix instead. -- [65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reports | |
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I would see Comcast much more favorably if this were rolled out instead of what they're trying in Nashville. | |
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| Re: Reasonable said by osravens:If this is the approach Comcast will take going forward, 500GB is reasonable for Blast, and I wouldn't consider that punitive. Not really. You're restricting the activities that a household will do based on the cap. Onlive + Netflix + Backblaze + Bitcasa can eat up over a terabyte a month. | |
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Comcast is at least showing they understand bandwidth usage is increasing, and that they're moving with the times. We have to give them credit for that. | |
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| Re: Reasonable said by osravens:I do, however, think it's double dipping to charge those people for the higher speeds and then for the higher bandwidth. It should be common sense that the higher speed connection is going to use more bandwidth.
(This is kind of on a tangent. and I'm not opposing your comment.)
If Comcast is trying to extend the life of their copper network and the caps were about limiting congestion, we should actually see an opposite of the what the plans reflect.
The most expensive plans would be slower speeds but would be unlimited.
Likewise, the high speed plans should be cheaper but capped. | |
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1 edit | So you might need to skip one or more of those activities, or buy more capacity to fill that "need". I'm guessing the "$10 per 50GB " or similar will still be available. for those that have higher bandwidth desires Fios (in those few areas they go head to head) might be a better deal, for most ComCast will offer equal speeds and adquite capacity at a lower price point which seem to be a primary market driver right now. | |
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But it's clear Comcast is lapping all the other cable companies in innovating with broadband. | |
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| Re: Reasonable said by osravens:If I lived in a Comcast/FiOS market, I would still go FiOS because I feel they have a superior TV product. Also, still largely, higher upload. Of course, Verizon would rather offer me 3 Mbps DSL for all eternity, so I'm stuck. Not to get too local here but this applies to the DC Metro area, PHL, NJ/NYC, and Boston which are pretty big Comcast markets in the NE.
I know some users who are not switching to FiOS in DC even though it's available to them. This has actually been brought up a bunch of times on the local listservs and the subreddit.
1. The big reason to stay with Comcast here is they recently have been rolling out hundreds of hotspots in DC. 2. Price. Double play (TV + Internet) is about $20/mo cheaper. 3. Installation pains/effort.
With that said, Verizon is still finishing many neighborhoods and will have a complete rollout in the next year for all of DC proper. Conduit was just recently put up in my alley for FiOS and the tech doing it said by December at the latest for my whole neighborhood. If Comcast implements the cap in my neighborhood they will lose at least 50% of their customer base come next year. | |
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Most of Allegheny County has FiOS now. I'm not sure of the deployment in Harrisburg, but I know it's in both Dauphin and Cumberland counties. | |
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| said by whfsdude: If Comcast implements the cap in my neighborhood they will lose at least 50% of their customer base come next year. You really think 50% ACTUALLY use more than 500GB?
how did they survive the 250GB cap?
BTW boston itself seems to be shunning Fios so that market can't really be on the list, and many of the others aren't fully rolled out.
Probably each service will have it's diehards, and a certain number will wander back and forth for a few promo discounts. getting people to actually switch is very difficult, Fios had a big speed advantage (which most people wouldn't notice in a blind test) but now CC is close, CC is cheaper and can sit on that price for a while and even offer some promos, fios is still under priced for the debt load. (their wireline division is at a pathetic 2.8% margin, largely due to fios) investors expect the higher single digits or more for a regulated utility, so more price increases are almost inevitable.
And we've seen a number of people here that tried fios and then returned to a previous/different carrier. It is apparently not nirvana for everyone. | |
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| Re: Reasonable said by tshirt: You really think 50% ACTUALLY use more than 500GB? I don't think 50% actually use more than 500GB, but when you start talking about charged overages, people don't want to worry about it even if they don't use that much.
how did they survive the 250GB cap? Was never enforced in DC. | |
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| Re: Reasonable So you believe people will go through the hassle, learning curve and expense of changing over to a more expensive service, out of fear of a cap they never exceeded and was never enforced anyway? I don't think most users are motivated enough to do that, and few would even care/notice a cap policy change unless they were warned at least once. | |
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| said by whfsdude:said by tshirt: You really think 50% ACTUALLY use more than 500GB? I don't think 50% actually use more than 500GB, but when you start talking about charged overages, people don't want to worry about it even if they don't use that much. how did they survive the 250GB cap? Was never enforced in DC. I really think you need to come back to reality. The simple fact of the matter is that less than 1% of residential customers use over 250gb of bandwidth in a month. It isn't like people are going over like crazy and the cap was never enforced. The bandwidth cap is not like the amount of minutes on a cell phone plan.
Now that you mention it though, maybe Comcast can increase profits by telling people they should get higher tiers of service in order to get more bandwidth that they will never use. -- My domain - Nightfall.net | |
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| Re: Reasonable said by Nightfall:I really think you need to come back to reality. The simple fact of the matter is that less than 1% of residential customers use over 250gb of bandwidth in a month. It isn't like people are going over like crazy and the cap was never enforced. The bandwidth cap is not like the amount of minutes on a cell phone plan. But you have to understand that most users don't know or keep track of their bandwidth usage. Power users, sure. So they don't really know how much they are using or will use.
When there is viable competition (FiOS) that states Comcast charges overages if you use more than your allotted data, which provider do you think people will generally choose?
Wireless is probably a bad example to use because so much of it depends on the phone selection over the actual service. | |
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| Re: Reasonable said by whfsdude:said by Nightfall:I really think you need to come back to reality. The simple fact of the matter is that less than 1% of residential customers use over 250gb of bandwidth in a month. It isn't like people are going over like crazy and the cap was never enforced. The bandwidth cap is not like the amount of minutes on a cell phone plan. But you have to understand that most users don't know or keep track of their bandwidth usage. Power users, sure. So they don't really know how much they are using or will use. When there is viable competition (FiOS) that states Comcast charges overages if you use more than your allotted data, which provider do you think people will generally choose? Wireless is probably a bad example to use because so much of it depends on the phone selection over the actual service. Very true, but consumers aren't going over the limit like crazy. The limit is set to high that nearly all consumers can use Netflix, email, and browse like crazy and never hit it. Now, when consumers start hitting that limit, Comcast will either need to educate them on the limit or increase the limit.
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As for how they survived the 250GB cap, it was a soft cap that was rarely, if ever, enforced. I know I broke it on roughly a monthly basis. You should see my data transfer logs from my pfSense box. | |
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| said by whfsdude:said by osravens:If this is the approach Comcast will take going forward, 500GB is reasonable for Blast, and I wouldn't consider that punitive. Not really. You're restricting the activities that a household will do based on the cap. Onlive + Netflix + Backblaze + Bitcasa can eat up over a terabyte a month. Of those services, only Netflix is one that a common household will use. -- My domain - Nightfall.net | |
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I have a Netflix streaming account and an Amazon Prime free videos account and watch a good amount of videos on my SmartTV with WiFi and get nowhere near the cap. I watch about 10 hrs/week of online video and am on the internet constantly and still don't exceed 50 GBs/mo. If you are approaching or exceeding the caps it is likely you are doing a lot of online backing up of your systems hard disks or are a heavy user of bittorrent file sharing systems. -- »www.mittromney.com/s/repeal-and-···bamacare »www.mittromney.com/issues/health-care | |
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1 edit | Winning the cord cutting war If the purpose of caps is to cut down on cord cutters, they should give higher caps or waive caps for cable subscribers (such as a 500 GB cap for expanded basic subscribers, 750 GB for digital starter, 1 TB for digital preferred and unlimited Internet for digital preferred with one or more premium channels. And increase the caps by 25 percent if they add digital voice to the mix (triple play). I come nowhere near the 250 GB limit (I use about 20-30 GB per month but mom plays Internet games on the computer). As for my TV, that is what cable is for.
Comcast is a cable company and their core business is pay TV, the Internet and phone is a side product. It's like going to a restaurant and buying dessert (Internet) and a soda (phone) without buying the entree (cable tv). The restaurant would be put out of business if their customers occupied a table for dessert and soda without the entree. That restauraunt would rather sell all three (entree, beverage, dessert). If it was not for Comcast's cable TV offerings, you would be paying 4-5 times more for Internet because maintaining infrastructure is expensive. Plus, you have to pay for tech support (both field techs and call center reps), regulatory costs, among other costs. While I have supported the breakup of broadband monopolies, Comcast could divest their Internet business and still be profitable because they could still charge access fees (like paying a local phone company for dial tone) and the third party ISP would provide the Internet content (customer choice like paying for long distance). And they could waive those access fees if you subscribe to pay TV and you would only have to pay the ISP fees. They could also charge third party ISPs for access to their facilities (like CLECs are charged by the ILEC).
Comcast could also operate on the food court model where the cable plant is like a food court and the content providers/ISPs have to pay Comcast for access their network but the ISPs/content providers (the food court tenants) charge for their service but Comcast (the mall) maintains the infrastructure.
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Being able to download things faster means that you'll download higher resolution content and more of it. You'll stream more because it's faster. You'll send full resolution movies/videos because it's faster. You'll do more in the same amount of time because it's faster. Why people argued against me on this, I'll never understand.
So for all those who said I was wrong, who said that faster speeds don't mean higher levels of usage... Looks like Comcast proved you all wrong. -- "We're going to start at one end of (Fallujah), and we're not going to stop until we get to the other. If there's anybody left when that happens, we're going to turn around and we're going to go back and finish it." Lt. Col. Pete Newell: 1st Inf. US Army | |
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 elray join:2000-12-16 Santa Monica, CA | Not surprising As I've been explaining for years, caps will rise to keep Mom happy - industry only wants to keep the abusers at bay, not collect overage charges, contrary to the populist rhetoric you read from Karl.
If overage charges affected any significant percentage of households, there would be mass outrage, starting with she who holds the checkbook. Cable knows better. | |
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| Re: Not surprising said by elray:If overage charges affected any significant percentage of households, there would be mass outrage, starting with she who holds the checkbook. Cable knows better. You mean like in Canada? ...oh wait. It has to do with competition, or lack of. | |
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At least I'll have content to provide the site, and you can all feel sorry for me. | |
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Right now, the price of Comcast with promos is about $10-$20 month cheaper than the equivalent FiOS package. That is the main reason why I stay with Comcast. I would much rather pay another $10-$20 to not worry about getting hit with going over a cap, plus have way more upload speed as an added bonus. | |
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Economy 300GB Economy Plus 300GB Internet Essentials 300GB Performance Starter 300GB Performance 300GB Blast 350GB Extreme 50 450GB Extreme 105 600GB
Overage is $10/50GB
»customer.comcast.com/help-and-su···s-tucson
These caps are behavior of sudo monopolies using their position to extort more revenue from customers. If there is really a bandwidth congestion problem, the real solution is QoS and bandwidth caps, not usage caps. The problem is the average user can't easily understand QoS and it doesn't easily bring in more revenue. | |
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 BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Still complaints Geez people. Comcast unlike other companies are actually upping the caps. I will say that Charter had a 500 GB cap on it's 100 Mbps tier for 3 years now. Of course now Comcast exceeds that.
Anyway these caps are much better than the old ones and face the vast majority won't come close to the new caps and at least you won't get cut off now. Though I think a cap free time zone in the middle of the night is something they and other ISPs should have.
And before someone chimes in and says something stupid like "no caps" well that train left the station already so let's deal with reality. | |
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If I do gets another boost cap from 250GB to 500GB that means I would get 1TB total of two sub accounts under my premier account for sure! | |
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 |  BF69Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN | Re: I'd leave said by jduffy:Any provider implementing a cap would force me to leave their service. Yes because you have so many choices. Hate to break it to you by 99% will not come near a 500 GB cap. | |
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| Re: Just Wish I'd Known! Why? AT&T DSL has a 150gb cap per month (were you not aware of this?), so moving to a service with a 300gb per month cap should have absolutely no effect on you.
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| Re: Just Wish I'd Known! When AT&T went to a 150gb cap a couple of years back, it was announced via email to subscribers. I never saw a mention of that in the bill, anymore than I did when I switched to Comcast last spring.
Although caps usually will be mentioned in the TOS, I agree that most ISPs are not exactly up front about their caps policies.
I will agree with the ISPs in one respect however: Most users are in little danger of exceeding the caps, and that this is an issue primarily concerning a very small percentage of users...whether it is a mere 1%, or perhaps a bit more than that (but certainly less than say 5%) I will leave to the experts, but based on your posts, I would be doubtful that a 300gb cap will ever cost you anything. -- Deeds, not words | |
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 Airwolf7Premium join:2004-12-12 Franklin, KY kudos:1 | These screen caps might clear up Karl's article. Even though I live in Franklin, KY I am a Comcast customer in the ongoing trial in Comcast's Nashville, TN market.
I just logged into my Comcast account and took these screen captures.
 My Current Data Usage
The image above would be good to replace the image in Karl's article because it shows more detail about what is going on in the Nashville, TN trial.
 300 GB Usage Allowance
The image above would clear up what Karl said below in his article.
"In the ongoing trial, customers were given a "grace period" wherein they were only being charged after they crossed the cap three previous times in one month."
Maybe word it something like this below. I'm not a writer. I'm just a dumb redneck hick from Kentucky so spiff it up however you want.
In the ongoing trial, customers are given a "grace period" wherein they are only being charged $10.00 per 50GB block of data after they crossed the 300GB per month cap three times. | |
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 |  azstu join:2007-05-13 Tucson, AZ | Re: These screen caps might clear up Karl's article. Can anyone offer a suggestion as to why I do not see a usage meter on my account page. and never have.. ? Is this a common problem.. any help would be appreciated. I live in Tucson area. thanks | |
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 martyp join:2004-01-30 Vallejo, CA | data caps Well we have dsl here and are moving to uverse to get the higher data cap.
we have over a few times and its just watching a few movies streaming in our bedroom from cinemanow while one daughter streams from netflix. And the other daughter video chats with school friend .
its getting really easy now to hit 250 or 300 gigs a month with out trying yo hard | |
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 jagged join:2003-07-01 Boynton Beach, FL | Already seeing discrepancy 189GB vs 178GB just check my Comcast.com account. It says that as of 9/24/2012 we've used 189GB.
My router however, running the latest DD-WRT version, says my WAN port had: September 2012 (Incoming: 138765 MB / Outgoing: 39228 MB) - 177,993MB total
So who's the liar now?! | |
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