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join:2000-12-21
East Setauket, NY | Yeah Right Pipe Dreams | |
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Mellow
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join:2001-11-16
Salisbury, MD | what a waste With all this money going towards stopping music theft they could be using it to fund outside reviews on how to make the music industry better. But hey, that would be to easy. | |
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@comcast.n
| Re: what a waste That will never happen simply because it insinuates that the recording industry isn't doing anything wrong. And they aren't, are they? I mean, what's wrong about skimming millions of dollars off the top of an industry for yourself by doing absolutely nothing and having absolutely zero talent yourself. That's what the RIAA executives have been doing for years -- getting rich off of other people's talents. | |
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myhoes
Michael Extreme User
Premium
join:2003-10-05
Laval, QC
clubs:
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ghostpainter
I Write for the Apocalypse
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-25
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
clubs:
| Re: Some RIAA Magic...... said by ghostpainter  :
The software, if the RIAA gets their way, would have to be installed in p2p applications to filter out any copyrighted materials....
And won't this just rock the world...Another words, RIAA will be stealing even more from software makers as well as there own artists...I wish our Congress would do us all a favor and nuke em....
Adding to my earlier post...after reading through several of the posts here, it would appear that maybe RIAA is getting back at the artists that have bolted from there grip. Think about it, by making sure that only copyrighted materials owned by them make it onto the p2p programs , they would be effectively blocking groups that don't have there stamp or chip of approval...Hummm!!!! | |
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Masque
join:2001-12-04
Auburn, MI
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| I Think..... ......."psycho-acoustical" is the proper term when referring to the RIAA. Instead of dropping their old, worn-out business model of raping consumers and artists alike they continue to buy senators and congressman to use in a push towards worthless technology.
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HotRodFoto
Premium
join:2003-04-19
Denver, CO | uh huh Uh huh...and how are they gonna do that when it comes to p2p networks that are NOT in the US??? | |
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Yowzaaah
Ours Go To Eleven
join:2000-12-14
DamnFlat, OH
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| Are they ALL smoking crack? Something as simple as an 8bit encryption with a password in the file title would frustrate this "listening" filter would it not? Or even zipping the mp3.
Damn, the lengths to which they will go to triple dead bolt that barn door never fails to amaze me. Get a damn clue and figure out how to create a $5 a month distribution system using the computer power of your customers (P2P) or go out of business. I've never seen such a hopelessly delusional bunch of jerk-offs as seem to populate the media industry. | |
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shewitts
join:2001-04-22
Clearfield, UT
| Re: Are they ALL smoking crack? said by Yowzaaah :
Something as simple as an 8bit encryption with a password in the file title would frustrate this "listening" filter would it not? Or even zipping the mp3.
Damn, the lengths to which they will go to triple dead bolt that barn door never fails to amaze me. Get a damn clue and figure out how to create a $5 a month distribution system using the computer power of your customers (P2P) or go out of business. I've never seen such a hopelessly delusional bunch of jerk-offs as seem to populate the media industry.
You said it;) | |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| said by Yowzaaah :
Something as simple as an 8bit encryption with a password in the file title would frustrate this "listening" filter would it not? Or even zipping the mp3.
I think it was Napoleon who said to never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
I would think those who use P2P to trade files would be all for this new filter; it keeps the RIAA busy, and will be trivially easy to defeat. Not to mention that I don't think that copyrighted music sounds any different then public domain music; unless they only plan to filter out boy bands.
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join:2000-08-10
Willow Spring, NC
2 edits | Agreed (-;
It's a bit hard to bolt a barn door securely when the door is rotten (-; | |
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CrazyJr
join:2003-02-27
Oakland, CA
| Something that wasn't thought of.... I am sure if the DVD copy protection can be broken, then it will be a matter of time before the software is hacked into. RIAA have no brains whatsoever, except for when they see dollar signs in from of them. Will the RIAA get their heads out of their a$$, I mean the sand? | |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
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join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY
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2 edits | Re: They will never win !! You got some good points there Serial. I would buy more albumsIF 1) The CDs are $15 or lower and 2) They would have more of the less recognized music bands (IE check my profile for a nice list on which most isn't mainstream) on the radio instead of the same old Top40 shit on all the radio stations they are feeding to us and thinking we're just mainstream zombies.
If I wanted to support the band I really really like (IE Dimmu Borgir and Fear Factory for example), I would personally mail them a check of $20 or so, but for FF's case, I'd directly send them money since their CDs are from one of the top 6 record producers. The band WILL get the money, NOT the middleman.
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| TheWickerMan
join:2002-04-09
Enola, PA
| said by Rejected One :
lets face it with every new copyright protection software/hardware made there will always be someone who will find out how to circumvent it.
My thoughts exactly. Someone will have a crack for this before it even gets off the ground. | |
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DeGenerate90
join:2004-01-02
Toms River, NJ
| It sickens me I used to buy cd's only of I really liked that artists music (or more than one or two of their songs). Thinking if I bought the cd, the artist would be the ones receiving my money for their music......but I was wrong of course. This BS of "garbage files" on P2P networks and then "taking one step further?! Suing people that download music off these networks (or even the innocent) because the RIAA can't get enough $$green$$.....it sickens me . | |
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| DONKEYKONG01
join:2003-03-21
Metairie, LA
| Re: It sickens me said by DeGenerate90 :
I used to buy cd's only of I really liked that artists music (or more than one or two of their songs). Thinking if I bought the cd, the artist would be the ones receiving my money for their music......but I was wrong of course. This BS of "garbage files" on P2P networks and then "taking one step further?! Suing people that download music off these networks (or even the innocent) because the RIAA can't get enough $$green$$.....it sickens me .
Exactly!!! now you know why they want to be richer at the cost of others convenient! because money is everything! can buy you billions of slave labors as well!!! as result, our freedom to do as we please was also restricted by their evil scheme to make more whether it pisses everyone off or not. | |
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Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
| Maybe as a monitor and not a filter. I can't see the larger P2P networks voluntarily applying this unless the RIAA convinces Congress to pass legislation mandating it. Even then, there will be court fights delaying deployment, older versions without the filter circulating, and the inevitable new versions that are hacked to remove the filter.
However, if this were applied as a monitoring tool, then we might be getting somewhere. Suppose this was bundled into a Napster-like app. (Old Napster, not new Napster.) You could pay a fee to access the network. Once you have access, you can share/download all you like. The filter identifies and tracks the songs that are traded. This tracking is used to divide the access fees up among the copyright holders and the folks running the network.
This way everyone can be happy. Users can share and download music, the record industry can collect a fee from it, and the software company can run 100% legally also (meaning without fear of an RIAA lawsuit).
Of course, this isn't what they'll do. They'll use this technology to try to stamp out P2P and sue users into oblivion. After all, if they were smart, they would have implemented this with the original Napster instead of squashing them.
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bokamba
Chengdu Rocks
Premium
join:2002-04-05
Falls Church, VA
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| What I like about this battle... Whatever technical solution the industry comes up with will be defeated by smart techie opponents. There is always a workaround, and this one is very easy to work around. There might be an initial deterrent effect, but once everybody learned to zip or encrypt, it would be useless. | |
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My other vehicle is a TARDIS
Premium
join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX
·AT&T U-Verse
| Re: What I like about this battle... Given how technologically inept the music industry has
proved itself to be with other methods of controlling
the major labels' music (magic marker pens, shift key),
I don't see this latest attempt of theirs having any
amount of success. At least they'll throw millions of
dollars into something that is found to be easily
circumventable or doesn't work in the first place.
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kd6cae
P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
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| the rIAA needs to wake up! It sickens me what the RIAA is doing. People that just want the content, such as music, enjoy the ability to get it instantly online. Why the RIAA has more money then any of us would know what to do with and it makes me mad knowing what they're using it for! And I personally want others to hear the content that I personally like. If the rIAA is this irate about sharing of content where folks can distribute stuff, which in my view is a perfect promotional tool for them, which you'd think they'd want, then why not just ban traditional broadcast Radio from playing their stuff! when I say, when will we the consumer decide how we want stuff done instead of the RIAa crazy folks getting their way controlling everything from what we hear to what's done with it! Kill the RIAA! | |
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join:2003-03-21
Metairie, LA
| Re: the rIAA needs to wake up! said by kd6cae :
It sickens me what the RIAA is doing. People that just want the content, such as music, enjoy the ability to get it instantly online. Why the RIAA has more money then any of us would know what to do with and it makes me mad knowing what they're using it for! And I personally want others to hear the content that I personally like. If the rIAA is this irate about sharing of content where folks can distribute stuff, which in my view is a perfect promotional tool for them, which you'd think they'd want, then why not just ban traditional broadcast Radio from playing their stuff! when I say, when will we the consumer decide how we want stuff done instead of the RIAa crazy folks getting their way controlling everything from what we hear to what's done with it! Kill the RIAA!
Well let the whole world knows how wrong they are and how right we are to share whatever we so choose! The riaa will not stop pursuing us until they are OUT OF BUSINESS FOR GOOD!!! | |
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P2p Shouldn't Be A Crime
join:2001-08-27
Lancaster, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
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| Re: the rIAA needs to wake up! Yes agreed the RIAA will be our constant fears until they're thrown out of existance. However how will that happen when it seems everything I read about the rIAA and file sharing in general seems to indicate the RIAA is getting their way and consumers aren't seemingly able to do a thing about it? I mean just recently a ruling that says a piece of software used to make copies of DVDS is now illegal? That isn't the RIAA's thing I know but it's the same type of thing. Pretty soon it'll be illegal to make your own CD's just because the possibility is there for them to get distributed! Well I will say if the rIAA/MPAA would ever listen we could reach a decent compromise where we all could benifit but no all they want to do is make technology illegal in a sense! boy I hope something goes right for us the consumer sometime soon. | |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
·Qwest.net
| What a bunch of idiots I can just see the presentation that sold this idea to the
RIAA.
My name is Dr. Joe Con Rip emoff, I represent the software
firm of "We Write it you Buy it". We have the solution to
P2P piracy. We have a song recognition protocol the uses
NSA wave mapping algorithm to convert the 430 Hz wizalous
stindunka wave to a axiomatic stream which is then read by a proposition chip which has a Dead Head trapezoid filter.
When a suspected copyrighted song is encountered the sample is sent to a Intel Lingus where it is flush input to the network. This is then loaded into an out sourced LAN in Swilankawhowingiedizooba, India. Which is the part of the gee Hindu Godhead Lord Shiva main frame. If the sound file is copyrighted Lord Shiva sends an angry tanka to destroy the computer down loading.
Hollywoodland RIAA executives are over joyed. At last a solution, we don't know who this Shiva thing is but he sounds good.
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| Freezone
join:2000-09-29
Southfield, MI | Re: What a bunch of idiots And like Bill Gates with IBM/DOS deal they have to actually go out and buy the software the lied and said they had  | |
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russotto
join:2000-10-05
Collegeville, PA | Here's the RIAAs program boolean checkIsCopyrighted()
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yock
TFTC
Premium
join:2000-11-21
Fairfield, OH | control It isn't about being legal anymore, it's about control. The RIAA doesn't like the P2P distribution model, as it cuts into their potential profits. | |
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Kiwi
Premium
join:2003-05-26
USA
·Comcast
·Aristotle Internet
| Never-Ending Story It's getting to the point where the RIAA is becoming a serious public enemy. Somewhere, sometime -That would have been considered terroistic threatening, attempting to jail people without due process, by asking for money to avoid a court action. Sounds like that out lawed concept of "Sharking" {Need a Loan!}..Sounds like Family Court has expanded it's revenue line.....To infect more people, I mean you have to know there MUST be kick backs going on; there was with Senator Wilson, who stole millions from Child Support funds and enjoyed a Federal Golf Course in Florida.-Who paid that bill?....Fathers.
Meanwhile I heard there is a site called In the Groove, where the Artists of music are by passing the RIAA. Meaning the Artist gets 50% of the take, instead of the 1% currently offered by the RIAA!
It seems if a group can piss off the public enough, it won't matter if it's "Online-Sharing" or not ~They will or should be seen as the bad guy in this Country, trying to commandeer a Russian/Nazi approach. Lets see what happens in the next elections & who will knock children and the older population, who gets nailed to the wall; by this very "Special" group!
America is becoming less democratic and more decidedly heading toward a dictatorship, in general. Out sourcing employment, decreasing productivity, increasing the National debt and asking Americans to 'Buckle down' and swallow the pills we are told to accept!
It won't end.....
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join:2003-03-21
Metairie, LA | Re: Never-Ending Story This sucks man, america is one fvcked up country now more then ever!!! we must take back our rights or it will only get worse! and they will continue to scare the shit out of everyone little by little till we are all owned like a dog! | |
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ChrisDAT
Google Keyword Compsysnyc
join:2002-02-26
Hollis, NY | Yawn.... I know it was a quiet news day, but really.....
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join:2003-03-21
Metairie, LA
| Re: Yawn.... said by ChrisDAT :
I know it was a quiet news day, but really.....
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You gotta be joking! ugh, what terrible speed you got their yet you say it's the best??? | |
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mr_cool
join:2003-10-14
USA | lol lol, this will be cracked within a week, like those CD protection thingies. and btw, i hvae never encountered a "garbage" file on k++ . THis thing wont last 1 week :P | |
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join:2003-03-21
Metairie, LA
| Re: lol said by mr_cool :
lol, this will be cracked within a week, like those CD protection thingies. and btw, i hvae never encountered a "garbage" file on k++ . THis thing wont last 1 week :P
I'm not interested in their new crap, still listening to michael jackson beat it!, bad! etc buhahahahaha!!! I'd still love jackson music, it is one of the best imho! Even thought he's getting his ass sued now for screwing with little children  | |
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Michael Extreme User
Premium
join:2003-10-05
Laval, QC
clubs: | are those garbage files the ones that start fine and start screeching that sound out your speakers after 10 20 secs??
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Some RIAA Magic
Some RIAA Magic......
the filter is, its not going to recognize (correctly at least) anything that has been encrypted prior to transmission. Wow, it took me all of 10 seconds to think of this -and- type it up... 