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Groups that shut down Blue Security target Spamhaus
(old news - 05:24PM Monday Jun 11 2007)
tags: spam · networking
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The spammers behind last year’s dismantling of Blue Security are back, this time using a variant of the "Storm Worm" malware to launch a sustained DDOS attack on Spamhaus and two other anti-spam outfits. ZDNet points to this post on NANAE by Spamhaus's Steve Linford, who explains the attack:
"Storm is the 'nightmare' botnet, capable of taking out government
facilities and causing much mayhem on the internet. It has 3 functions;
sending spam, fast-flux web and dns hosting mainly for stock scams, and
DDoS. There is a hefty international effort underway by cyber-forensics
teams in a joint effort by law enforcement and private sector botnet and
malware analysts to trace the perpetrators."
That said, Spamhaus says they've got things under control, and the attack is being absorbed by anti-DDoS defenses.

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AnonProxy
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Frist!

F the spammers!

Chris 313
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Good for them!

Good for these guys! Screw the spammers! Hope Spamhaus has a hell of an anti DDOS barrier.

BurnBABYburn

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I hope the Spammers all BURN IN HELL !

These people are the SCUM of the earth and I hope they get what's coming to them!

sivran
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Re: I hope the Spammers all BURN IN HELL !

This is one thing that all of DSLR can agree on. Even the taylor troll.

batterup
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Re: I hope the Spammers all BURN IN HELL !

said by sivran See Profile :

This is one thing that all of DSLR can agree on. Even the taylor troll.
Yahoo, M$ and other so called legitimate money changers are as bad a spammers and scammers. Only stupid people fall for spam, M$ has their tentacles in everyone's pockets.

justmesqui
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I vote for that

burn them in hell !!
theeinstein
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Re: I hope the Spammers all BURN IN HELL !

I'll second that!

MysticGogeta
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Re: I hope the Spammers all BURN IN HELL !

Third that I still enjoy that story about a major spammer in Russia being beaten with a baseball bat. These people are criminals and need to be locked up with bubba and friends.
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Cabal
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Keep up the good work

$ bzip2 -cd /var/log/maillog.0.bz2 |grep "found in zen.spamhaus.org"|wc -l
146

Thanks guys!
axus

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pretty cool

Private security specialists versus criminal underworld hackers. Sounds exciting for both sides
BosstonesOwn

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Re: pretty cool

hell at this point im willing to donate my time to help as
well.

FiL
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Re: pretty cool

lotta money to go round...

The sec. experts, given.

Then the spammers and hackers get hired as advisors for your fav. av software...

Am I not seeing something?

diespammerdie

@xo.net

Hey Feds!

Why don't you pursue the folks that run Astalavista, or crack sites, hmmm? Bet you'd nip 50% of the payloaded crapware that is selfserving to schmos that are rather nefarious but still, idiots.

Mactron
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Didn't we hear...

Didn't we hear that a major Spammer was taken down last week and Spam was going drop ?..
Sounds like the Bots are still intact.
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ftthz
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Re: Didn't we hear...

said by Mactron See Profile :

Didn't we hear that a major Spammer was taken down last week and Spam was going drop ?..
Sounds like the Bots are still intact.
hrmm... interesting wonders with all those bots that one guy had could be unleashed all at once to take down a govt webiste or cause some large amount of lag

Mactron
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Re: Didn't we hear...

said by ftthz See Profile :

hrmm... interesting wonders with all those bots that one guy had could be unleashed all at once to take down a govt webiste or cause some large amount of lag
And Low Life spammers don't know each other and coordinate their efforts ?..
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Jehu
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Botnets are serious shit. It's like a whole mafia underworld.. there are different gangs who spread their bots, and even go as far as writing code to remove rival gang bots.

Arresting of some dude is nothing in the scheme of things.

The sad thing is, whomever wanted to piss off Spamhaus probably just had to hit enter on a beach somewhere.
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drew30319

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Re: Didn't we hear...

On a beach?

More likely in his mom's basement.

Jehu
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Re: Didn't we hear...

This stuff ain't kiddie shit anymore.. Organized, profitable, sophisticated.
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ISurfTooMuch

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Spammers, virus writers, botnet herders, and extortionists

Looks like we're seeing the scum of the Internet: spammers, virus writers, botnet herders, and extortionists showing us how closely they're related. And did anyone ever actually believe that spammers are just honest businessmen trying to make a living online?

I think I'm gonna add links to my sigs on other forums to point to free antivirus software. If more people would run current AV software, we could start to make a dent in this scourge. Does anyone know of a good Web site that provides basic information on Internet security in terms that the average noob can understand?

MemphisPCGuy
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Re: Spammers, virus writers, botnet herders, and extortionists

»forums.techguy.org/t208517.html seems to have some good tips. I can't speak to its total effectiveness but its a start ... plus what we have here in the security forums of course.
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Necronomikro

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said by ISurfTooMuch See Profile :

Looks like we're seeing the scum of the Internet: spammers, virus writers, botnet herders, and extortionists showing us how closely they're related. And did anyone ever actually believe that spammers are just honest businessmen trying to make a living online?

I think I'm gonna add links to my sigs on other forums to point to free antivirus software. If more people would run current AV software, we could start to make a dent in this scourge. Does anyone know of a good Web site that provides basic information on Internet security in terms that the average noob can understand?
This page does a decent job:
»spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-sp···stworthy

Scree
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.

I hope those anti-DDoS defenses can trace back to the a-h's and they get thrown in jail with that hilton b.

Mactron
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...and they get thrown in jail with that hilton b.
Ha she's in Wannabe Jail.
They need hard time in a Federal Prison. Not a nice place.
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Transmaster
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This says it all.

getting his ass packed.

inteller
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Re: This says it all.

that is sweet
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said by Scree See Profile :

I hope those anti-DDoS defenses can trace back to the a-h's and they get thrown in jail with that hilton b.
Maybe if a few more of these spammers showed up with gunshots to the head, it would curb the flow just a bit.

rogue_
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Blame it on Bush

"it's capable of taking out government facilities"

bigunk
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Re: Blame it on Bush

I wish it would take out some gubmint facilities. Lets start with the IRS and every other taxing agency. Then have it go after any nation that would do evil to the US. We'll discuss what's next after that.

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blue security

It really p**sed me off when it took Blue Security down, they were working,
tlhIngan

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Re: blue security

said by Vtblues See Profile :

It really p**sed me off when it took Blue Security down, they were working,
Which was why they shut down Blue Security - their method was effective.

Any anti-spam method that has a chance of working basically is at risk of attack by spammers who see it as a threat to their livelihoods. Make an effective anti-spam tool any idiot can use, and you've just cut out a good chunk of their market - idiots.

Spammers are like the RIAA, MPAA and like groups. When something threatens their long-established way of doing things, they fight back. Alas, the RIAA and MPAA at least are legal entities, and thus have a variety of methods to do their takedowns. Spammers, well, they don't want to go to court so much for their methods can be exposed and thus liable for whatever happens (e.g., if it's a US based spammer admitting CAN-SPAM violations in court, well, that testimony is gold for the followup lawsuit).
chef423
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Re: blue security

said by tlhIngan See Profile :

said by Vtblues See Profile :

It really p**sed me off when it took Blue Security down, they were working,
Which was why they shut down Blue Security - their method was effective.

Any anti-spam method that has a chance of working basically is at risk of attack by spammers who see it as a threat to their livelihoods. Make an effective anti-spam tool any idiot can use, and you've just cut out a good chunk of their market - idiots.

Spammers are like the RIAA, MPAA and like groups. When something threatens their long-established way of doing things, they fight back. Alas, the RIAA and MPAA at least are legal entities, and thus have a variety of methods to do their takedowns. Spammers, well, they don't want to go to court so much for their methods can be exposed and thus liable for whatever happens (e.g., if it's a US based spammer admitting CAN-SPAM violations in court, well, that testimony is gold for the followup lawsuit).
Umm, no, they are nothing like that. You just one of the tools who thinks someones hard work (ie. music, software, n movies) should be freeware. Anyone trying to stop you from getting it is 'evil' when your the douche stealing in the first place. lmmfao...
Necronomikro

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Re: blue security

Disregarding the value of someone's work, whenever I purchase music, video, etc., I'd like to be able to play it in all media devices that I own. If I download the music legitimately, I cannot copy it to my ipod if it wasn't through itunes. I cannot copy it to my rio if it *was* through itunes. If these guys had their way, I'd have to purchase a copy for each possible device I intended to listen to it on.

Also: Artists get very little compensation(unless you're a huge huge huge hit), so, disregarding all of the above, that's very important. Plus, you don't get proper compensation when a new technology comes out: if your company sells something that isn't in your contract, you never see a penny of it.
jsouth
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too bad...

It's too bad their isn't a way to get the DDOS attack bounced back at the spammers or better yet hit them with an attack.
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costmore

@verizon.net

make it cost more

some isps are just not proactive about fighting spam and let this crap happen.. I bet co-opted botnets chew up more aggregate bandwidth than p2p traffic sometimes as a matter of PEAK usage.. this needs to stop-- so EDUCATE the subscribers to FIX the leaky faucets of co-opted machines!!! Bastards will have to find other ways to spew their sh*t across the net.. companies that don't fight this should be FORCED out of business! Their cost of doing business should be similar to filling up one's gas tank these days, that is VERY EXPENSIVE!!
(and dont tell me the urban legend about adjusted for inflation crap!!)

2kmaro
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Re: make it cost more

Point of fact noted several times: at any given point in time, over half of the bandwidth on the internet is being used to transmit email. It is estimated that 90% of emails sent are SPAM.
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TSI Gabe
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Re: make it cost more

This is our stats from our Ironport

Stopped by Reputation Filtering 82.8% 4.5M
Stopped as Invalid Recipients 0.1% 3,864
Spam Detected 12.6% 685.8k
Clean Messages 4.5% 247.6k

So in fact it's more like 95.5% of emails are SPAM.

Armaina
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Not just ISP's but also mailhosts

many of them have no restrictions on how much e-mail is sent out, very few do. If more mail server were a little more proactive about the spam problem, we'd have less of a problem. Those that wanted to run spam would have to be restricted to running their own servers... of course that's the part where the ISP's come in.
bigjimc

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Do I smell Movie

This would be a great movie. All the spam stuff...Throw in Jessica Alba and a good chase scene and we are all set.
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Re: Do I smell Movie

Yeah, Nicolas Cage could be the spammer master mind. Jack Nicolas could be the Godfather and Tommy Lee Jones would be the Federal agent after them.... I theaters this fall....
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