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| Should I thank my representative? I recall writing in to Specter and Santorum and eventually got the nice letterheads back thanking me for feedback. Rick Santorum went further with another letter (generic?) explaining his position to repeal this useless, outdated tax. I should write him back, thanking him for his efforts.  | |
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 |  | | Re: Should I thank my representative? Rick has been getting alot of flack lately here in Pa, but he has showed up at more rallys and gatherings locally than any other politician this side of the Mississippi. He is a man for the people, that is currently getting a bad rap........ Go Rick | |
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 mr seanProfessional InfidelPremium,ExMod 2001-07 join:2001-04-03 N. Absentia kudos:1 | The dodo... ...might be offended by the company following in his wake. | |
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 nklbPremium join:2000-11-17 Ann Arbor, MI kudos:2 | We're still paying it said by article : The tax remains in place for local service.
Looks like I will still be paying this :-( -- for all your Linux questions | |
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 |  Ahrenl join:2004-10-26 North Andover, MA | Re: We're still paying it Sign up for a VOIP based connection! | |
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If only the 911 would work the same, it might an idea. Besides, the alarm system in the house still needs the basic service.  | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: We're still paying it There is a few ways around the basic alarm. Nextalarm offers a solution that may help you. But, to say on topic. This will just shifted else where. Goverment not a big fan of losing money. LOL. But, hey better it be shifted elsewhere than create another tax. | |
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| said by Ahrenl:Sign up for a VOIP based connection! Then you pay a stupid sales tax like vonage, and you know and i know,that the state will never see a penny of it. When the states should get the Da to look at it. | |
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 |  |  |  | | Re: We're still paying it Dont' anybody ever forget that VOIP is only a penstroke away by congress from being exessively taxed like everything else! Who remembers AOL long distance....went from no tax to 13 separate line item taxes because of pressure from the CLECs.
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 |  RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03 join:2000-05-11 | said by nklb: said by article : The tax remains in place for local service.
Looks like I will still be paying this :-( Yeah. The reports of its death have been greatly exaggerated. -- Toolmaster of La Grange. | |
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 |  Romney2012Defeat Obama 2012-Chg we can believe inPremium join:2002-03-03 USA kudos:4 | said by nklb: said by article : The tax remains in place for local service.
Looks like I will still be paying this :-( And when you have a service where local and long distance is bundled in under one rate, how will they split how much is local and how much is long distance to determine the tax? -- -- Join Red Room Forum BLOG tkjunkmail.blogspot.com My Web Page | |
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 |  |  | | Re: We're still paying it said by Romney2012:said by nklb: said by article : The tax remains in place for local service.
Looks like I will still be paying this :-( And when you have a service where local and long distance is bundled in under one rate, how will they split how much is local and how much is long distance to determine the tax? Good question TK. I have a hunch, tongued tied, totally tubular Stevens, may be the chairman of that committee  -- Bass....the glue of rhythm and harmony...the heartbeat of the band.! Shaking the earth with deep,sonorous vibrations.The dark ominous thunder of an approching storm. | |
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 | | why local service why won't they take it off of local service.
Let this be a lesson in democracy. Once you vote in, or the government institutes a tax, it is very difficult to get rid of it. | |
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 |  R4M0NBrazilian Soccer Ownz Joo join:2000-10-04 Glen Allen, VA 1 edit | Re: why local service said by xerxes3642:why won't they take it off of local service. Let this be a lesson in democracy. Once you vote in, or the government institutes a tax, it is very difficult to get rid of it. If by "very difficult" you mean "just about impossible", then I agree with you. 
I mean, it only took a bit over 100 years to repel a tax that was only to help during one specific war. | |
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 |  | | said by xerxes3642:why won't they take it off of local service. Let this be a lesson in democracy. Once you vote in, or the government institutes a tax, it is very difficult to get rid of it. We live in a republic and not a democracy. -- Got a V3 or a V3i? Want to get the most out of them? Check out my sites »hacktheV3.com and »hacktheV3i.com
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 |  |  fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium join:2005-05-20 kudos:3 1 edit | Re: why local service said by GilbertMark:said by xerxes3642:why won't they take it off of local service. Let this be a lesson in democracy. Once you vote in, or the government institutes a tax, it is very difficult to get rid of it. We live in a republic and not a democracy. Nope,... we live in a Democratic Republic... but it's nice to know that there are others that DO know we don't live in a democracy in the true sense of the term... and thank god for that too! | |
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 mwf join:2000-11-26 Granite Quarry, NC | why is it When I run short of money I have to spend less, when the government is short of money it can just take more of mine? | |
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 NezmoThe name's Bond. James Bond.Premium,MVM join:2004-11-10 Coppell, TX | Wow I think this is gonna save me all of 50 cents a month. I can go buy that new car now. -- My Gallery Formerly Nezmo  | |
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 |  Combat ChuckToo Many CannibalsPremium join:2001-11-29 Erie, PA | Re: Wow said by Nezmo:I think this is gonna save me all of 50 cents a month. I can go buy that new car now. But if a company overcharges by $.50 and nets a mint then haul out the dogs of war, right?
Not that it's right when any entity does it but at least if a company does it there's a chance you might see that money again. -- gau gau | |
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 |  | | That's really not the point. This is exactly why we have all these taxes and fees, etc. A little here, a little there. Add it all up and its huge. If you had to pay your federal taxes all at once at the end of the year by writing one big check instead of it being taken out each pay period, you'd be mad as hell at the amount. You just don't notice it as much the way its done now.
You just give the government carte blanche to take as much money as they want at anytime and spend it by saying this no matter what. | |
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 | | Been Dead Some companies like TWC, who charged the FET on its Digital Phone service have not been applying it. Since my last bill (July 8th), I have not seen the tax. Not a big difference, just 1.20. But I guess every penny counts. | |
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| Taxes If I were to charge millions of customers a quarter that generated billions of dollars a year, to all of a sudden, totally eliminate the charge, this would definitely put a dent in the pocketbook. NOW, I would definitely look for another way to get that quarter back in the piggy bank....and I do mean quick!  | |
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 | | A lesson to be learned A 'luxury' tax that eventually took a bite out of just about everyone in the country for over one hundred years, and still isn't quite dead yet. Remember this the next time some dimwit says he wants to 'tax the rich'. | |
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 |  | | Re: A lesson to be learned said by footballdude:A 'luxury' tax that eventually took a bite out of just about everyone in the country for over one hundred years, and still isn't quite dead yet. Remember this the next time some dimwit says he wants to 'tax the rich'. You got it. The same analogy can be applied to say the federal gas tax. Who is it going to hurt more? The rich or the poor? Add up all the taxes you pay for gas at the federal, state, county, city and local levels. We're talking 60 cents a gallon in some states. Now couple that with these stupid politicians (and certain idiots) bitching about the oil companies and how much money they make due to the gas prices. So why can't the government do without THEIR TAX MONEY???!!! If they care sooooooooooo much about the person hurting because of this, why don't THEY forego taxes. Hmmmmm, at $3.00 a gallon minus 60 cents, that's HUGE!!!!
They (politicians) never, ever come out and answer why they can't do without the tax when we all are doing without 'X' amount because its going for the higher price in gas. To those who say oil companies are greedy, fine. Include the politicians in there as well. Otherwise you have no credibility. | |
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 | | I just wonder... if there is some sort of verification of where all this money went to and what it was used for? | |
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 |  | | Re: I just wonder... said by bamabrad:if there is some sort of verification of where all this money went to and what it was used for? Are you kidding? Is there ever? Taxes charged for a specific reason almost never go for what it was supposed to. It just goes into the "general fund". That's why these things never go away, because the federal government always seems to "have a use for it" no matter what. They just can't stop spending money. They always need more. You could tax the rich 100% AND STILL NOT HAVE ENOUGH the way the government operates. | |
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 |  |  envoid join:2002-12-21 Duluth, GA | Re: I just wonder... The money goes into contract deals with friends with large corporations... | |
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 | | income tax Didn't they invent income tax during WWII. I think they called it an emergency war tax. | |
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 |  | | Re: income tax The 16th amendment was ratified in 1913. Before that, the US government was prohibited by the Constitution from taxing American citizens directly. | |
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The U.S. income tax was first imposed during the Civil War, but was not used from after the Civil War until the 16th Amendment was ratified in 1913 giving Congress the right to tax income. »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax···d_States | |
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 |  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | said by xerxes3642:Didn't they invent income tax during WWII. I think they called it an emergency war tax. No, the was the concept of withholding of income taxes from your paycheck was implemented during World War 2. -- Tancredo 2008! | |
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 | | Redo article! It should be called, "Politicians pretend to kill off Spanish American War Tax". This week the federal excise tax, originally placed on then "luxury" landlines to help fund the Spanish American War in 1898, officially was saved this week. The failed elimination of the tax comes after a long debate - which at one point included the possibility of expanding the 3% tax to include broadband connections. The elimination of the tax from only bundled and long-distance services creates a fake sense of sanity that politicians and news sites will milk over the next five years. Of course consumers know better, because the tax is alive and well as it remains in place for local service. | |
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 FiLPremium join:2005-08-16 Silver Spring, MD | yep pretty logical re-write bro. Im not one to say "why cant the government make do without taxes". Thats just fuzzy logic at its best. But what I will say is crooks will never want YOU to know where your OWN money went. Politician or con artist.
Politi-con-artists. Im trademarking that as we speak! | |
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 DrTCPYours trulyPremium,ExMod 1999-04 join:1999-11-09 Round Rock, TX | If it's still there for local it isn't quite dead as claimed You can only claim it got marginally better and did not go worse by including broadband data.
What costly war must have been this Spanish American War. We still do continue to pay for it generation after generation.
It is so ironic that this is not eliminated in an era where republicans are pro elimination of taxes yet one tax that should be eliminated survives all odds. | |
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 Michieru2zzz zzz zzzPremium join:2005-01-28 Miami, FL | _ Oh thank heavens!
The spanish american war tax is dead, hooray!
Bring on the war on terrorism tax.... | |
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 viperpa33sWhy Me?Premium join:2002-12-20 Bradenton, FL 2 edits | Short lived It's great to hear that the government is getting rid of a useless tax. Then again, just when you think your able to save a couple of bucks, they just sock you with another tax or raise taxes on something else. So the joy of having a tax taken away is short lived. | |
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 Subaru1-3-2-4Premium join:2001-05-31 Greenwich, CT | I dont Understand....
What did this tax have to do with a war??? | |
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 |  viperpa33sWhy Me?Premium join:2002-12-20 Bradenton, FL | Re: I dont Understand.... said by Europe 2007 : What did this tax have to do with a war???
The tax was used to pay for the Spanish American War. It was a way for the government to get extra money for the war. After the war ended, the politicians got greedy and wouldn't get rid of the tax. From the time the war ended till now people were paying the government money that they shouldn't of got. | |
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 |  |  Subaru1-3-2-4Premium join:2001-05-31 Greenwich, CT | Re: I dont Understand.... From what it seems it still looks like they have a hard time giving up on the tax? | |
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| Re: I dont Understand.... said by Subaru:From what it seems it still looks like they have a hard time giving up on the tax? Of course they do. That's why Congress will come up with another tax to hit Americans. Everybody knows taxes don't go away...one is replaced with the other. | |
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| Re: I dont Understand.... said by CHICAD:said by Subaru:From what it seems it still looks like they have a hard time giving up on the tax? Of course they do. That's why Congress will come up with another tax to hit Americans. Everybody knows taxes don't go away...one is replaced with the other. yeah of Course I know that, but It seems like this Tax by it's self it seems like they have a hard time letting it go. -- It's NOT Ni-kon It's NE-KON!
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 |  |  |  |  |  viperpa33sWhy Me?Premium join:2002-12-20 Bradenton, FL | Re: I dont Understand.... When it comes to taxes, any government has a hard time letting go. They think the more they tax the people, the more people believe they are actually doing something.
As we seen the tax was a way to fund the government's wasteful spending habits. | |
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| We wouldn't have Cuba today if it weren't for this luxury We wouldn't be enjoying the close intimate relationship with our territory 90 miles from Miami today if it weren't for Teddy Roosevelt and the men who fought in the Spanish American War. Well at least the Phillipines are still a US territory, and Puerto Ricans are eagerly anticipating joining the union.  | |
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1 edit | Re: We wouldn't have Cuba today if it weren't for this luxury said by KCrimson:We wouldn't be enjoying the close intimate relationship with our territory 90 miles from Miami today if it weren't for Teddy Roosevelt and the men who fought in the Spanish American War. Well at least the Philippines are still a US territory, and Puerto Ricans are eagerly anticipating joining the union. The Philippines is not a territory of the USA, They are an independent country and have been since slightly before WWII in the Pacific happened. Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the USA and is divided between independence, statehood and keeping the commonwealth status as It is. -- Joker1: 2-285 cpu @ 3.25GHz[H8DCE]v1.01, Bios 9/14/05 soon Joker2: 1-165 cpu @ 2.65GHz[MS-6702E]v1.0, Bios 9.3 Joker3: 1-270 cpu @ 2.36GHz[K8N-DL]v1.03, Bios 1008 (10.02GHz crunchin 4 SETI w/the PC Perspective Killer Frogs) | |
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| Re: We wouldn't have Cuba today if it weren't for this luxury You're really quick on picking up my sarcasm...
BTW, commonwealth status has won each time the people (the last vote included Puerto Ricans living outside P.R.) have had a (non-binding) choice (IMNSHO the "advantages" of continued commonwealth make no sense, but that is waay off topic). | |
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1 edit | Re: We wouldn't have Cuba today if it weren't for this luxury said by KCrimson:You're really quick on picking up my sarcasm... BTW, commonwealth status has won each time the people (the last vote included Puerto Ricans living outside P.R.) have had a (non-binding) choice (IMNSHO the "advantages" of continued commonwealth make no sense, but that is waay off topic). Well It's their choice and I respect It. In any case I couldn't tell that You were being sarcastic. -- Joker1: 2-285 cpu @ 3.25GHz[H8DCE]v1.01, Bios 9/14/05 soon Joker2: 1-165 cpu @ 2.65GHz[MS-6702E]v1.0, Bios 9.3 Joker3: 1-270 cpu @ 2.36GHz[K8N-DL]v1.03, Bios 1008 (10.02GHz crunchin 4 SETI w/the PC Perspective Killer Frogs) | |
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 cokesatPremium join:2005-11-16 Cleveland, TN | This Tax on WB internet Access thru the NRTC said by news0: The elimination of the tax comes after a long debate - which at one point included the possibility of expanding the 3% tax to include broadband connections. This Tax Showed up on my WildBlue Statement for the Month of June so is it really Dead. | |
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 | | republic? democracy? The USA in not a democracy, nor is it a democratic republic, because the executive is not directly elected by the people but rather indirectly through an electoral college that is not bound by the will of the people. IE - in each state the people (you and me) actually vote for electors, the electors then supposedly get together and cast their votes for president. The general rule is that the electors cast their ballot for president along party lines, but they are not legally bound to do so. It is possible to imagine a senario where the majority of voters (you and me) vote for lets say the democratic party - but the electors for what ever reason (insanity, intimidation, bibery, stupidity, and yes even misconduct on the part of the democratic candidate that comes to light just as the election is taking place) the electors cast their ballot for the republican candidate. This system is exactly what democracy is not. It is a system where the elites place a filter between the reins of power and the mob (not the mafia but rather the masses) | |
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