Speakeasy Launching ADSL2+ ServiceAnd the CEO talks to us about life under Best Buy ownership.... ( old news - 07:04PM Thursday Sep 13 2007) tags: dsl · prices · business · exclusive · SpeakeasyDSL provider Speakeasy is gearing up to unveil ADSL2+ service starting this week, Broadband Reports is the first to reveal. We spoke with Speakeasy CEO Bruce Chatterley concerning the new service, the company's evolution and their relationship with new owner Best Buy (covered below the break). The details: 8Mbps/1Mbps for $149.95, 10Mbps/1Mbps for $179.95 and 15Mbps/1Mbps for $189.95. Installation will run you $149 (modem and install). Prequal loop distances are 10,000, 7,000, and 5,000 feet respectively. It's available in Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, Miami, New York, Philadelphia, San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle and Washington DC. Several of our regular users alerted us that they've already been able to pre-order the service. The new ADSL2+ tiers are aimed squarely at small business customers or power power users interested in an SLA. According to Chatterley, the company currently has no soild plans to offer ADSL2+ tiers aimed at more casual users, though he hinted that there could be some interest in offering less expensive ADSL2+ tiers (sans SLA) as part of voice/data bundles. "If we do anything for residential, we're going to need to find a way to bundle voice in there, and potentially other things with our new parent Best Buy," says Chatterley. Other options could include bundling mobility or entertainment services in order to subsidize the lower broadband price point. If they do go this path, we should hear something within a year, says Chatterley. Speakeasy's continued shift toward the small business market left us remembering when.... Under New Management Speakeasy was founded as a Seattle cyber cafe in 1994 by Gretchen, Tyler, and former CEO Mike Apgar. Over the years they evolved into a small, edgy ISP with a focus on gamers and power users. The early attention to the kind of things important to gamers (proper routing, interleaved vs. Fast Path) quickly gained them instant cred around these parts as a smart, hip company. As the industry evolved and incumbents dominated, Speakeasy was forced to focus more attention on the small business market. That shift has created some animosity among our forum regulars, who've hinted the company has changed for the worse. There's certainly been a changing of the guard in regards to support in our forums. Chatterly, who came on board in 2003, says the company's shift was necessary as the industry's low hanging fruit was quickly picked by incumbent operators. "As we looked at the business, four five or six years ago we were able to really command a fairly good premium for our open policies, our support and network quality," he says. For instance earlier this decade, when cable operators were trying to tell us that open hotspots equated to bandwidth theft -- Speakeasy was encouraging the practice. While a major ISP support tech might laugh off your request to have your ISP examine your funky routing so you could dominate in CounterStrike -- Speakeasy actually would. Then they'd join in and frag the hell out of you. Even though customers value these things, Chatterly notes that these days it's just not easy to compete with incumbents who offer $14.95 DSL to the less technical. Major operators too began paying more attention to gamers, launching dedicated services such as Verizon's Game Network and Comcast's Game Invasion. "We realized that that market was going to be tough to make a business unless you were a cable company or an ILEC," he says. The only alternative was to focus on a customer base where reliability, support and network quality are truly appreciated (and paid for): the SOHO crowd. "We really believe that the small business market has been overpriced and under-served for years by the big guys," he says. Four years ago, when Mike Apgar was still CEO, Chatterly says 90% of the company's revenue came from residential services. "Now it's completely flipped." A survey the company conducted eight months ago indicated that the vast majority of their residential customers were teleworkers, network administrators, or home based businesses. The evolution was organic. While the $97 million acquisition by Best Buy shocked a lot of people, Chatterly insists that the relationship makes sense because the company was already changing directions. Obviously being integrated into a $40 billion a year company offers some financial security, and Chatterley seems pleased to note the company incurred no layoffs post-merger. The company now exists within Best Buy's entrepreneurial division, Best Buy for Business. Integration has allowed Speakeasy to offer the "business triple play": data (ADSL2+, T1, bonded T1), hosted VoIP service, and managed services products. Said services allow small businesses to essentially outsource their IT infrastructure. But has Best Buy been annoying? Are users going to be forced to buy overpriced printers? Suffer through Geek Squad webmail ads? "What I said when we announced the acquisition is that they were going to leave us alone," he says. "They allowed us to run our business because we know what we're doing, and pull resources from the mothership when we need them." "They're basically leaving us alone and letting us execute." It's hard to know if it will stay that way. Many companies are left alone the first few years after an acquisition before upper level executives get itchy fingers. And while Speakeasy's evolution might have been inevitable financially, if you knew the Speakeasy that once was, it's hard not to think that something special was lost in translation. Still, the market essentially dictated Speakeasy's path for it. If you take a look at the tombstones that scatter the broadband industry battlefield, you'll note that Speakeasy isn't among them. So what does Chatterley think about criticism that the company is "selling out"? "We got some feedback from the same people who are participants in your forums about how 'we're selling out to the man'," says Chatterley. "But I think we've shown now six months into it that really our service is as good as it's ever been."You can, as always, agree or disagree in the comment section below. Related:- AT&T To Raise DSL Prices
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 biaachmonkie
join:2001-04-27
·RoadRunner Cable
| 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that?
Way, way, way overpriced.
I get that from TWC for $45, they've been good to me so far good speeds and descent enough latency. I'm too far from CO for descent speed DSL.
This just seems like a very very niche service for those who hate Cable, can't get Cable or have been banned from Cable for high usage. | |
|  |   wnorman
join:2002-01-30 Macclenny, FL | Re: 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? This service is geared for the business or home user that runs servers or transfers much more data than the average users. Any service with an SLA will be expensive. | |
|  |  |   TK Junk Mail Go ahead, make my day Premium join:2002-03-03 Margate City, NJ clubs:
·Comcast
| Re: 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? said by wnorman :This service is geared for the business or home user that runs servers or transfers much more data than the average users. Any service with an SLA will be expensive. You're right. This isn't for home users that want unlimited speed and unlimited byte transfers for $10/mo. This is for business users who want someone to DO SOMETHING when a problem occurs. And the Speakeasy CEO said as much. He doesn't want some penny pinching, whiny, home user who wants business class service for free. -- -- Internet News My BLOG My Web Page | |
|  |  |  |   koitsu Premium join:2002-07-16 Mountain View, CA
| Re: 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? If Speakeasy today is anything like they were when I had their 784k SDSL business class service (circa 2001), then people are simply getting ripped off.
"Business class" at Speakeasy means you get a couple perks when it comes to communication/response time with Speakeasy, but when it comes to technical things (especially line issues or general DSLAM problems), it's all handled the same way. You having Speakeasy "business class" service does not mean AT&T/SBC/whoever-owns-the-copper-or-DSLAM is going to respond any quicker.
Business-class customers can cry, scream, sue, or do whatever else they see fit -- it doesn't change the fact that Speakeasy's hands are tied because of who they get transit from. But from the customer's point of view, it doesn't matter -- service is out/down, Speakeasy should have proper escalation contacts at SBC/AT&T to get things fixed, etc. etc...
But with Speakeasy, it was always the same story: can't get AT&T/SBC to do anything (not returning calls, providing ticket updates that are worthless but by doing the update allows them to be excused from doing the actual work, etc.).
What I'm trying to say is this: if you're going to purchase business-class DSL service, your best bet is to get it from whoever owns the actual transit in your area. Buying DSL service from a reseller might save you money (well, not with Speakeasy! ), but when your service goes out due to the transit provider "doing whatever" in your area without informing anyone, you can -- and will -- be down for days at a time. So what exactly *are* you paying for? | |
|  |  |  |  |   fatmanskinny Premium join:2004-01-04 Atlanta, GA | Re: 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? Off topic: Where is that avatar from? It looks like an old Nintendo game. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |   koitsu Premium join:2002-07-16 Mountain View, CA | Re: 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? Taken from my profile:
About my Avatar/Username: My avatar is from River City Ransom, one of the best original NES/Famicom games ever made. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |   fatmanskinny Premium join:2004-01-04 Atlanta, GA | Re: 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? I hope Nintendo bring that to the Wii if they already haven't. Thanks for letting me know. -- The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary. | |
|  |  |  |   snipper_cr
join:2002-01-22 Wheaton, IL clubs: | Also, you can use your connection 24/7 at full speed without getting invisi caps like ol compcast :-P | |
|  |  |   MrMoody Under the black helicopters
join:2002-09-03 Smithfield, NC | Then they should have gone ADSL2+M, it would be worth it if you could run a server at 3Mb up. | |
|  |  |  |   sporkme drop the crantini and move it, sister Premium,MVM join:2000-07-01 Netcong, NJ
| Re: 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? said by MrMoody :Then they should have gone ADSL2+M, it would be worth it if you could run a server at 3Mb up. That's not their choice, that's Covad's choice. And you can thank Earthlink for the new DSLAMs.
Speakeasy always struck me as a marketing phenomena more than anything else. I tried them for awhile and the support absolutely sucked. I've worked at two other ISPs that resell Covad with their own transit and I never quite "got" the SE buzz. Still don't. | |
|  |  |  |  |  travelguy
join:1999-09-03 Albuquerque, NM
| Re: 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? said by sporkme :Speakeasy always struck me as a marketing phenomena more than anything else. I tried them for awhile and the support absolutely sucked. I've worked at two other ISPs that resell Covad with their own transit and I never quite "got" the SE buzz. Still don't. Must depend on when you were a customer. I used Speakeasy in the very early days and they were amazing. You could call at 2AM with a routing problem, the tech who picked up the phone actually knew what you were asking about and could fix it online while you waited. They never were the cheapest, but where they were available, you couldn't do any better.
When the FCC killed mandatory line sharing at a reasonable rate, that was the end. | |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |   ninjatutle
join:2006-01-02 San Ramon, CA | For this price, a small company can get DSL, cable modem and EVDO as a backup. There's even left over money for donut's each week. | |
|  |  |  Freezone
join:2000-09-29 Southfield, MI | Re: 10/1 for $179.95 ??? !!! ??? Who will pay that? And the install money could be used to buy a multi wan router to run them all. | |
|   Jerm
join:2000-04-10 Richland, WA edit: September 13th, @07:19PM
| Wow... And I thought $70/month for 10/1 from Charter was steep...
But for a small business with an SLA thats actually a deal! | |
|  |   dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
| Re: Wow... said by Jerm :And I thought $70/month for 10/1 from Charter was steep... But for a small business with an SLA thats actually a deal! you said the "B" word and thats exactly why its so expensive. companies have been raping businesses for years. -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth | |
|   ztmike 1kwikgt Premium join:2001-08-02 | Overpriced. Overpriced, enough said. All their new tiers are overpriced, 8/1 for 150/month? Wow..what the hell is that CEO smoking? I hardly doubt even a business would pay that if they have a cable isp available to them. | |
|  |  qworster
join:2001-11-25 Los Angeles, CA edit: September 13th, @07:30PM
| I dunno... Compared to T1 prices these seem pretty good...you get 5X the download and 2/3 of the upload speed of a T1 plus a full Service Level Agreement for less then half the cost of said T1...(usually 399.00).
That sounds like a bargain to me! | |
|  |   trparky Bite My Shiny Metal Ass Premium,MVM join:2000-05-24 Cleveland, OH clubs:
| Re: Overpriced. The fact is, sure... cable ISPs can provide those speeds but are they consistent? When if the node they are being fed by along with the rest of the area becomes saturated? Then what?
At least these guys provide the services with an SLA stating that if anything does happen, be it either higher than normal ping time to the whole line being down, someone gets the fire lit under their ass and they get moving. -- Tom | |
|  bogey780
join:2004-03-19 Covington, LA
| error? "The details: 8Mbps/1Mbps for $149.95, 10Mbps/1Mbps for $179.95 and 15Mbps/1Mbps for $189.95. Installation will run you $149 (modem and install). Prequal loop distances are 5,000, 7,000, and 15,000 feet respectively."
Wouldn't that be 15kft, 7kft, and 5kf respectively? | |
|   LBDSL Lightning Bolt VIP join:2002-01-07 Auburn Hills, MI
| Pre-qual distances I'm sure that is a typo, because all I have to say, is good luck pushing 8.0 at 15k feet.
We have been doing ADSL2+ for a few months now, and 8.0 won't work over 9k, in some cases, not even over 8k feet -- Lightning Bolt Technologies | |
|  |   xdeadhead 220, 221, Whatever It Takes. Premium join:2000-11-08 Pangea
·Comcast
| Re: Pre-qual distances and throw some 26ga plant in there, might as well be a million feet from the c.o. i think their numbers reflect the "rose colored glasses" world they want everyone to think exists IRL. And , of course, it doesn't. -- I am not herbert. | |
|   LinkBound
@comcast.net | Going the way of EarthLink? Yeah, Speakeasy. Prepare yourself to be laid in a grave beside EarthLink in the near future. Not too long away before the telcos and cable ISPs come with the blade and chop off your head. | |
|  |  Network Guy
join:2000-08-25 New York
·Verizon Online DSL
moderated: September 13th, @08:53PM
| Re: Going the way of EarthLink? I love these comments. Good thing there's knowledgeable, expert opinion still availabe nowadays.
Speakeasy compares to one other ISP that I've worked with, XO Communications. Both had national networks, both deployed super POPs across major metropolitan areas, and both had one common business practice in common: provide excellent network access.
Service from Speakeasy costs a premium for a reason. When your circuit goes down, their people at the NOC actually move their ass, they actually call your local phone company and follow up. It's that fuzzy warm feeling that when your connect is down, someone is actually on it. Your satisfaction actually does matter. Try getting some customer service from someone like say, Verizon.
If you're a penny pincher, go for yours. There's plenty of cheap broadband available now. | |
|  |  |   haynosity CovadVonage FST
join:2000-08-15 Spring, TX | Re: Going the way of EarthLink? Agreed and Speakeasy is one of the Better ISP's that I deal with. The call center is here in the states and the reps are very knowlegable. | |
|  |  |  |  |  njcellfreak
join:2006-12-28 Union City, NJ
edit: September 13th, @08:11PM
| Those prices are ridiculous! Even Cyberonic offers ADSL2+ for lower rates. Their prices are
8mb/1.0mb $89
10mb/1.0mb $119
15mb/1.0mb $129
Still pretty high for broadband but cheaper than Speakeasy. My goodness. That CEO is on crack. What a ripoff. | |
|  |  |   siouxmoux
@comcast.net | Re: ADSL2+ Rocks With those prices for adsl2+ from speak easy. I will stick with comcast I am paying $52 a mouth for 8/786k with powerboost I get 20/1.5 net access. | |
|   BillRoland McCain 2008 Premium join:2001-01-21 Ocala, FL clubs:
·Cox HSI
| Tough sell Those prices for those speeds don't look like much of a value to me. I'm using Cox Business Internet, which provides 15/2Mbps for less money than the top SpeakEasy Tier. I think they're going to have a tough sell.
Also, the idea that BestBuy bought them and doesn't intend to do anything with them is laughable. They didn't buy you to watch you work your magic, Mr. CEO. More than likely they're figuring out how they're going to "fit you in" to the business model right now. -- "Don't steal. The government hates competition."
Fred Thompson For President 2008 »www.imwithfred.com | |
|  |  StEaLtHBuNnY
join:2002-10-12 Bergenfield, NJ | Re: Tough sell Fios business or comcast business are so much better | |
|  |  |   Amadeus Premium join:2005-05-02 Miami, FL
·Cingular Wireless
| Re: Tough sell you are so right. 
I saw a few comments that said those prices are for businesses. What businesses? Maybe to the ones that don't have a choice, but for the ones that have other alternatives will not go with speakeasy and there inflated prices.... -- Think Ahead. Learn More. Solve Now! | |
|  qworster
join:2001-11-25 Los Angeles, CA
·Brand X Internet
·RoadRunner Cable
·Vonage
·DSL EXTREME
·EarthLink
edit: September 13th, @09:58PM
| Let me explain it to you.... A hypothetical for you...
I run a compamy. We NEED our Internet on ALL the time! Cable doesn't cut it because it's simply not reliable enough. Right now I run a T1 line (just like THOUSANDS of companies do!). It costs me 400 dollars a month, but it's 99.99% reliable (as compared to Cable's 98%-FYI my Time Warner Cable was off FOR REAL this morning for 3 hours).
Like I said, I NEED my connection up all the time, because I make MONEY from it! Having it down like the cable was today costs me 1000 dollars an hour on average.
Now, Speakeasy-the company that I've relied upon for years for my T1 is offering ADSL2 for LESS THAN HALF what I'm paying them for T1! Granted, it's only 2/3 of the upload I enjoy now, but it's FIVE TIMES the download...PLUS-EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY-it's backed by Speakeasy's Service Level Agreement, which GUARANTEES performance! From past experience, I KNOW I can call them at 3 AM and someone will IMMEDIATELY answer the phone. Even more important, this it a TECHNICIAN, not a flunkie, and one that's located in Seattle, NOT India! Ths person will help me and stay with me until my problem or concern is dealt with-usually within a few minutes.
THAT'S what businesses PAY FOR...and for that level of service, Speakeasy's ADSL2 prices are a BARGAIN!!!!
You people think with a consumer mindset, NOT a business one. That's fine....because you can deal with losing your Internet overnight because the cable company wants to upgrade its amplifiers. You get fairly reliable Internet for a good price...
BUT...others are willing to pay for business class service, because to them (down) TIME IS MONEY!!
Got it? | |
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 benc Premium join:2007-06-17 Glen Carbon, IL
·Charter Pipeline
·Future Nine Corpor..
·Callcentric
·AT&T Midwest
| For The Speed Those Prices Seem Worth It Currently I'm using Charter Business HSI. I didn't know that they were the only option at my apartment when I moved in, so I begrudgingly called them to sign up, despite the short-comings of cable based Internet (shared medium...what if everyone uses it at once?). Even worse, I got locked into a contract. I should have asked if mo-to-mo was possible if I pay a little more each month. Ah well, I guess it doesn't matter. By the time DSL comes here I won't have this apartment anymore, and the contract ends about the time my lease ends.
I pay $67 for 1.5Mbps/256kbps. If I needed the additional speed, and DSL was available here, those prices sound pretty good.
Although, AT&T has 1.5Mbps/384kbps static IP mo-to-mo DSL for $65 (+taxes), and their website states a 99.9% uptime guarantee.
They also have 3.0Mb/512Kb ($70+taxes) and 6.0Mb/768Kb ($94+taxes) under similar terms. Oh wow, I just realized that if the cost difference is only $5, there's no point in 1.5M/384k.
So I can't get DSL now. When Best Buy bought them, I figure it's the beginning of the end (after all I'm NOT impressed with Geek Squad). Anyway it's just a reseller for Covad.
If I want service through Speakeasy, shouldn't I just call up Covad instead? | |
|   xrdar
@pacbell.net
| Had the service in SF since June Surprisingly, people will pay. Have the 15/1 service from COVAD (mine was higher cost ~ 194.95 per month when it first came out). 3300 ft. from CO.
Service, stability, etc has been exceptional. I download about 60GB of medical imaging data per day. Combined with a second backup connection from ATT, this behaves as stable as a T1 in terms of availability (cheaper and better throughput)
No cable in my area sadly (that would be much cheaper for similar service). However, our other docs use cable. They have regular problems with sustained throughput due to oversubscription. These lines/ports (I believe) are dedicated loops with allotted bandwidth.
I get about 12-13 mbps sustained throughput (from SF servers) and about 8 mbps throughput from our servers on the east coast. covad service has been very good (and I suspect speakeasy's service will be similar). Usually hold times are under a few minutes and you talk to someone who's seems like a level II/III tech from the get go. They usually don't insist that you re-power cycle your modem while they hold. They don't ask dumb questions, and they seem to listen to problem. My single interaction with this business side service was pretty darned good. Person spoke english fluently, resolved the issue in under 10 minutes by coordinating w/ engineer to have router and port changed at CO WHILE I WAITED. 10 minutes. pretty impressive.
For those wondering who will pay ... I think it's those people with limited other options, and need of higher bandwidth without the cost of bonded T1s or DS3s. These services are not intended for casual home users.
Incidentally, PRAYING for FiOS. | |
|   ftthz If love can kill hate can also save
join:2005-10-17
| Redundancy just in case hrmm I got clinets that use the covad t1 with an SLA ... works fine also got a dsl backup through at&t 6mbits if it goes down I got dialup fail safe if all else fails!!! Redundancy is key if you need to be up with a backup generator so u can power down safely. Than again since the last fiber cut for covad had think they got the month free for the down time without even feeling it. | |
|   jinjimbob Troy Mcclure
join:2001-11-13 Enumclaw, WA | Only from the CO? Available from a RT, or just the CO? | |
|  |   guhuna The Raiders SUCK Should move back to LA Premium join:2001-03-31 Discovery Bay, CA | Re: Only from the CO? CO for now.
ADSL2+ is a waste at that price. Yes yes I know about the all the (its geared toward businesses) but when you have "comcrap" offering their wannabe "20mbps" speed the dumb folks will flock towards the cheaper stuff. | |
|  |  tmc8080
join:2004-04-24 Floral Park, NY | high prices I speak for everyone when I say:
SPEAKEASY IS ON SOME REALLY POTENT CRACK!!
Even if they sent these services to the LEAST competitive areas of the country, those prices are WAY OUT OF LINE!!! | |
|  kwayzcat
join:2002-10-22 Chicago, IL
| What did you expect? After taxes a Speakeasy 6.0/758 dry dsl line is over $110/mo right now. They have to charge more for ADSL2+ or every one of their residential customers would be asking to switch, putting a strain on their network and installation resources.
They would have to drop the price of all their products if they lowered these prices. | |
|  russotto
join:2000-10-05 Collegeville, PA
| SLA != no SLA Comparing any service with an SLA to one without is a mistake. The company I work for has Comcast for Business. It's cheap and (usually) fast, but on a few occasions it has been out for _days_. We have a fractional T1 also, which we use for backup among other things. If that goes down, the phone company is obligated to get their butt out and fix it in a timely manner.
Whether Speakeasy can actually back up their SLAs given they don't have control of the circuit is another question. | |
|  AMDonUT2004
join:2006-06-12 Bedford, VA | well.. my goodness this is expensive | |
|   Bobkd4dii Premium join:2004-12-31 Hollywood, FL
·AT&T Southeast
·ViaTalk
| Had Speakeasy Knew the prices would be high when I saw it was Speakeasy. I had them for VOIP and my ISP for a while. When I first got them the support was great but that didn't last. Finally dropped them and went back to Bellsouth. Saved some $ that way.
Bob -- The aheader we go, the behinder we get. | |
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