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Spectrum Auction: $18 Billion and Beyond
B-block gets all of the attention while D-block remains ignored
Bidding at the FCC spectrum auction exceeded the FCC’s $10 billion goal earlier this week. Although bidding has started to slow down, the total amount of bids surpassed $18 billion yesterday before the auction closed for the weekend. The bulk of that bidding is for the A-block and B-block sections of the spectrum, with B-block (covering Chicago) getting the most attention. Bidding for the C-block has come to a halt since meeting its reserve price a few days ago. D-block continues to get zero attention; 25 rounds of bidding have passed without any bids and this public safety portion of the spectrum remains at a bid well below half of the minimum price required for a sale.
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Alphy
join:2001-12-31
Troy, MI

Alphy

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Nothing will change

Open access is a fallacy; the current players will still decide what traffic get priority on their networks.

Google must win this auction.

BabyBear
Keep wise ...with Nite-Owl
join:2007-01-11

BabyBear

Member

Re: Nothing will change

said by Alphy:

Google must win this auction.
Yeah cause Google isn't evil, right!?

Good thing for them they already know how to work with the Chinese for when the Chinese invad err, come to watch over their investments.
Warez_Zealot
join:2006-04-19
Vancouver

Warez_Zealot

Member

Re: Nothing will change

said by BabyBear:

said by Alphy:

Google must win this auction.
Yeah cause Google isn't evil, right!?

Good thing for them they already know how to work with the Chinese for when the Chinese invad err, come to watch over their investments.
They only want to harvest everything there is to know about you.. Not evil at all... lol

Kxpuc
join:2004-05-04
Houston, TX

Kxpuc

Member

Re: Nothing will change

they can harvest everything from me except my hands so i can write some gmail and goto 4chan
openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
71144

openbox9 to Alphy

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to Alphy
After their last quarter and Microsoft buying the ability to compete with them, I think Google has a little more to worry about than buying spectrum that they most likely don't want in the first place.
SunnyFL8
Premium Member
join:2001-02-08

SunnyFL8

Premium Member

Re: Nothing will change

said by openbox9:

After their last quarter and Microsoft buying the ability to compete with them, I think Google has a little more to worry about than buying spectrum that they most likely don't want in the first place.
Yahoo is a bad deal they have there own problems competing. MSN will only add to the problems.Bloat ware no ones likes.

MS should first change there whole search and product and encorage and show the full potential of the internet through portals..

MS & Yahoo sounds like another Sprint/Nextel deal or even AOL/Time warner & the death of Netscape.

MS has the money but what a waste.

Content MS needs content not Yahoo's but there own.
openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
71144

openbox9

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Re: Nothing will change

Never underestimate Microsoft's ability to buy their way into a market. It may take two or three shots and it may require additional acquisitions, but MS has shown time and again that they're able to enter markets and squash competition.
SunnyFL8
Premium Member
join:2001-02-08

SunnyFL8

Premium Member

Re: Nothing will change

said by openbox9:

Never underestimate Microsoft's ability to buy their way into a market. It may take two or three shots and it may require additional acquisitions, but MS has shown time and again that they're able to enter markets and squash competition.
I agree but I just think its a waste of money that can turn into another monopoly and hurt MS or an anti-trust case.

In any event once Google runs out of ideas there stock will tank and all they will have is the search engine and advertisements.

Then they will make an attractive pickup for microsoft or some other online Giant.

Really when is google doing to do something that makes real money.

Don't get me wrong I love the products they offer.

That's my oppinion.
openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
71144

openbox9

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Re: Nothing will change

I think Google's advertising model is sound for a while...at least until Microsoft gets up to speed and/or more and more users start blocking ads. After all, it's been a sound source of income for broadcasters for decades. Granted, I don't see Google's reign lasting that long. The Internet has sped everything up and I see Google's advertising revenue generator to be viable for a few more years. Part of Google's problem (beyond "when are they going to do something to make real money") is that they seem to lack focus. Maybe there's a grand vision somewhere (world domination isn't a vision, contrary to some Google zealots' beliefs), but it eludes me. Google is like a teenager experimenting with anything he/she can get their hands on.
SunnyFL8
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join:2001-02-08

SunnyFL8

Premium Member

Re: Nothing will change

said by openbox9:

Part of Google's problem (beyond "when are they going to do something to make real money") is that they seem to lack focus. Maybe there's a grand vision somewhere (world domination isn't a vision, contrary to some Google zealots' beliefs), but it eludes me. Google is like a teenager experimenting with anything he/she can get their hands on.
Now that's what I mean. I agree with that point.
Ulmo
join:2005-09-22
Aptos, CA

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Ulmo

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Unhealthy government

Edit: Once I completed the math, I must state that what I wrote below should be a bit tempered. $18*10^9/300*10^6 is only $60. Considering half the population are babies or baby boomers who don't do anything, that's $120 per person waste tax. That can be paid off within 2 years of service at $6 per month extra. These frequencies *are* nationwide in aggregate, right? The comments below are still pertinent, but not as much as when I thought it was closer to $1,000 per person.

Once again, our government is mandating unreasonable prices for networking artificially caused by overtaxation via this auctioning method. This has to hurt our country, and is another method of lowering the stature of U.S.A. in every way, especially compared to other countries in the world.

The minimalist necessity to have governance is being ill-applied here; it is not minimalist here. The minimalist approach is to mandate a reasonable maximum based upon service costs and a reasonable (less than .34) ratio of profit, not to mandate a minimum illegal greediness level.

The methods that must be employed by network providers in this arena to meet those taxation costs have never been obtained via legal means. (Have you ever seen a cell phone company conduct business legally?) To insist upon supporting that business model means our government is profiting from crime. Why cannot it then be forceful in other matters in the world to support its largess, such as insisting we use nuclear electrical and motive power to rid ourselves of those cockroach invaders we call terrorists supported by oil, and to stop pandering to other countries? When our government wants to be mean and unreasonable, it no longer does so for the benefit of Americans, but to their/our detriment. How insane!
openbox9
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join:2004-01-26
71144

openbox9

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Re: Unhealthy government

Huh?

tommy13v
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join:2002-02-15
Niskayuna NY

tommy13v

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Re: Unhealthy government

said by openbox9:

Huh?
I agree
cornelius785
join:2006-10-26
Worcester, MA

cornelius785 to Ulmo

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to Ulmo
i'm not sure if i understand your first point, but is it something along the lines of the present auctioning method is not a good method? is that is your point, then what other method would you suggest?

goonie1
@suddenlink.net

goonie1

Anon

Re: Unhealthy government

I think the D block should go to the highest bidder even if they don't get the money they want. It has restriction where has to be used for the public inforstucture to help in desaster relief. If any thing the goverment should throw in the rest to make thing better in the USA for disaster relief. Anything would be better then them rebidding it without the restrictions and either a telco or cableco or cellco getting it and use it the same old way as they do now.
gaforces (banned)
United We Stand, Divided We Fall
join:2002-04-07
Santa Cruz, CA

gaforces (banned) to Ulmo

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to Ulmo
OOuu capped profits, the corps will really go for that one!
Please elaborate on the illegal cell phone business because it looks to me, like they made all their questionable practices legal in the US.

The rest of your post is way OT, maybe a good topic for a future discussion.