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New streaming P2P audio service
(old news - 11:15AM Sunday Jan 04 2009)
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User pghviewer See Profile submits this Torrent Freak report, which profiles a new startup named Spotify, a product from the developer of uTorrent. According to TorrentFreak, Spotify was created by some of the money made when uTorrent was sold to BitTorrent -- the idea being to create a competitor to piracy. The service streams 160kbps quality MP3s immediately from a huge catalog of major label music, in part using P2P technology. From creator Andres Sehr:
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"Spotify uses a hybrid p2p system where music is delivered both by our servers and using P2P. This allows us to deliver the long tail of music which may not be very popular, as well as quickly serve up the latest hits that the majority of users listen to. P2P allows us to both increase the speed that we deliver music and also lower the cost of streaming it."
The service doesn't work with iPods or other media players, which doesn't strike us as much of a piracy alternative, though the social music-sharing aspects of the service look promising. Since it was in closed beta in the U.S., some users note you may be able to successfully sign up if using a UK proxy server.

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pghviewer

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U.S.A. Users

If you are in the US and want to try it out

1) go to »www.daveproxy.co.uk/
2) enter the following URL: »https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/
3) Create your account, for UK postcode - check »www.postcodesearch.org.uk/
4) Download client, works for mac/windows and perfect under linux with wine - note: client does not seem to check ip.
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Jovi

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Re: U.S.A. Users

Couldn't get through with Dave's proxy. Tried some other UK based ones, and Spotify asks for an invite code. Hmmm...
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pghviewer

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Re: U.S.A. Users

Looks like they fixed it overnight.

I will send you a beta code, here are a few more.

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said by pghviewer See Profile :

If you are in the US and want to try it out

1) go to »www.daveproxy.co.uk/
2) enter the following URL: »https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/
3) Create your account, for UK postcode - check »www.postcodesearch.org.uk/
4) Download client, works for mac/windows and perfect under linux with wine - note: client does not seem to check ip.
Or use »www.last.fm/user/tkjunkmail .
It is free and available in US for music streaming. No proxies needed. And you can customize music however you want and it also has social sharing features.
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Re: U.S.A. Users

Wow, you too. Shadeofice is my last.fm username
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worked like a charm... thanks alot

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They still don't get it

The only thing new with Spotify is the bittorrent-based transport and instant-start playback. Otherwise it's just another iTunes imitation.

The "About" page on the site doesn't say anything about DRM, but the service apparently requires use of a proprietary player, and that usually signifies DRM.

But *no DRM* is the main qualification for a music service to compete with piracy. The advantage of piracy, apart from price, is being able to take the music to the portable player, the home stereo, and the car, and it won't expire or depend on connecting to internet servers.

Also there's a large minority of audiophiles and purists who just won't pay for lossy files. Only lossless tracks are comparable to CDs.

And yes, prices would have to be a lot less than CD prices, because CDs have been vastly overpriced for a long time (which contributed to the whole piracy situation in the first place), and the economy is down, and online costs are lower than distributing plastic discs.

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Re: They still don't get it

said by swhx7 See Profile :

The "About" page on the site doesn't say anything about DRM, but the service apparently requires use of a proprietary player, and that usually signifies DRM.
Or worse! they want to load up your system with scumware!
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said by swhx7 See Profile :

But *no DRM* is the main qualification for a music service to compete with piracy. The advantage of piracy, apart from price, is being able to take the music to the portable player, the home stereo, and the car, and it won't expire or depend on connecting to internet servers.
Actually, when polled about why people pirate movies and music, over 60% said it was about the price and not having to spend money on the product. Only 20% said it was about DRM. I am trying to find the survey as it was featured on a few of the file sharing sites, but I am not having much luck.

Point is that price is the major factor. Especially with a recession that is now upon us, I see pirating going up.
Littlefalls

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Cool!

I'm using it right now, and I actually think it's pretty cool. I didn't expect them to have some of the artists that I listen too, so it was a nice surprise finding out they had them. Basically, you could listen to the full track of the song continously, but you can't download it. Obviously, there are ways to get around that, but for streaming purposes I really like this software. You can also make playlists too fyi.

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quatrix

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Huh?

"Competing" with piracy? Is that like creating an alternative to robbing banks?
Lineage
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Re: Huh?

Was wondering the same, lol
Jonbo298

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Lineage
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Last.fm

What real edge does this have over a site like Last.fm?

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Where is the upside of uploading...

From what I have heard, fewer people are uploading torrents where the upside is obvious. Why would these same people be willing to upload when they are paying for the service when they are not doing it for free now. I do not see many uploaders in this scheme.
xbbdc

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Hialeah, FL

:(

»getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topi···ountries

looks like they are really trying to stop the proxies from working.

mrchris
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Re: :(

Then they should open it up to the rest of the world.
Chaldo

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beta codes

Anyone else got any working invite/beta codeS???
SuperWISP

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Another business plan based on taking ISPs' bandwidth

Same old song.... This company plans to use P2P to avoid bandwidth costs by taking bandwidth from ISPs. Yet another reason why ISPs should block BitTorrent.
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